450+ ...........The eaaaasssy way

[Hulmie]

wouldnt the head of a A6 have larger ports and valves already to withstand the 400bhp mark?

[RandomJord]

Yeah it can handle up to about 450-500 but i might change it up, just incase i feel the need for more than that!

[Horney]

I just soiled myself.

nick

[Hulmie]

I just soiled myself.

nick

Bad curry last night?

[Organisys]

Well then......now its Just a Turbo, Genesis injectors, gearbox and a magic tree you need to look out for!

Jord, I have an old magic tree you can have, it is now stale though..... Not sure if the fitment is correct for turbos though, it has been used on a normally aspirated car. 

[jake]

This is an awesome thread, as not many people seem to be wanting to go down the power route with the mk4 these days! Of course you get people pissing around with KKK turbo,s but to honest this is only speaking around 250-260bhp.

Until i see the words "GT" and then a large number behind it, it does not interest me, so when i saw this thread with the words "gt28rs", it certainly grabbed my attention. I love to see people take on a massive challenge, and do it themselves to a level that they want it to.

so sorry to go against the flow here, but this thread does not deliver in my opinion. This was a pretty easy way out to a big project in my opinion. Buying an engine that has been made and crafted by someone else does not mean that you have made a car that has 450bhp, because you might aswell have gone out and bought a car thats 450bhp. People who own nissan sklyline GTRs dont take the credit for "making" there cars 500bhp, as they did not make it, they bought it!

So in my eyes i think this is in some ways "an easy way out" . I know some people will disagree with this opinion, but hey its a forum! I like debates. I am starting some major major major work on my car in this next 2 years! So major the car might not look like a mk4 anymore,and of course that includes engine! But this is something that i want to say " bloody hell, i actually did it, i have achieved what i set out to do" , and when this day comes i will be one proud  guy.

I know some people have written good decision on buying the engine as alot of time saved, alot of hassle saved, alot of money saved etc etc etc. But thats not what modifying is about! These things should take time, they should take hassle and of course money! As thats what tuning to me is about! I could have quite easily taken my car to the garage every time i wanted something doing, but no. whats the point! I would much rather lie on the floor of my garage covered in sh!t, through the night, working and resolving through a problem! As cars should be hassle! As when you resolve the issue, it's all worth while!

Sorry to ramble, but just thought i would give out my opinion on this. as to be honest if i had that engine! I would feel like i was cheating the project, myself and the car!

[AlanD]

As you said Jake, everyone to their own but I've got to say, your talking crap

Its brilliant what he has done. So what he didn tune it up all himself and bought a new engine. . .? You are contradicting yourself as you have just got some NOS thrown in the back to give you more power . . . (I know you have done a bit more than just that, but same principle). If anything I would say buying NOS is "cheating".

This isnt meant as a personal attack, like you said its a forum, just saying what I think.

[jake]

You have completely missed the point of what i was saying if you have thrown nos into the equation?

Nos is cheating? But i have never said at one point that it isn't? So saying im talking crap doesn't really come across to mature mate to be honest? Nos was something i wanted to experiment with, as we are were always doing turbo conversions through the night on a number of cars, such as saxo vts turbos etc etc. Nos was something i invested money into over a year ago! It was cheap ,quick power! I say cheap, yet i have spent of 2k on the system so i dont know how that is classed as cheap?

To be honest, I dont think im talking crap at all? And can you justify what is "brilliant" about what he has done? My dad owns a mercedes sl500, is he brilliant aswell as he has gone out and bought power? No he's not, Mercedes are brilliant for what they have engineered?

So please enlighten me on what is brilliant?

In regards to just throwing NOS in the back of my car? I have invested my life into that car, and i have invested plans that you have no knowledge about? The fact that i have a GT28rs and a GT35 sat in my front room next a set of rods and pistons? So dont come across with the i have taken a cheap route? This thread is not about me, or my car? This is about personal preference?

Nos to me, is not an answer to power! Its there to reduce the lag im going to have! The golf is going to be eventually touching around 500bhp! As thats the figure were going for! There is a budget of 25k going into the engine! so please dont talk to me about contradicting myself!

As ive said this thread is not about my car! This is my opinion...

[VeeDubGTI16v]

what if jord takes the engine apart, then puts it back together again. would his project be ok for you then?

[Horney]

Trust me, if you had seen Jord use a spanner you'd understand why buying the engine is a good idea. The original plan I believe was to source the bits and then hand it all to Roy @ Autobahn to put it all together, this way the engine is just pore assembled. Not all of us are able or willing to tinker ourselves, Jord is one of those but certainly no less of a dubber because of it.

Nick