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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #10 on: 21 March 2010, 20:45 »
Better than Monza's - looks good  :cool:
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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #11 on: 21 March 2010, 21:07 »
Not for me :sad:
Monza's all the way :wink:
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Absolutely!
Looks so odd.
The car loses its iconic status.

Exactly, so well put.

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Thats funny, and Iconic status  :grin:

The thing i have against the scirocco wheels is the offset is different i just don't know yet without a bit of calcualtion what change in the forces acting on the suspension, suspension angles, tire ware this may have.
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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #12 on: 22 March 2010, 15:41 »
Hmm, thanks to those of you who replied with the positive comments! They actually look better again in the flesh as they really fill the wheel arches and have a slight dish to make them look really muscular.

For those that don't like them, not much I can say about that is there?

For those that think GTIs should stay with GTI wheels all their life, fair enough, I see your point BUT people have been modifying GTIs in the UK alone for over 30 years. I like mine to look as tasteful as I can manage but identifying it as my GTI not some posh nobs company car.

I'm a big Monza Shadows fan, however mine didn't come with them so I decided I'd go off on my own tangent tryint out different things to see which I like best. If my car had come with them, maybe I'd have just put some 10mm spacers on the rear and left them as is. Maybe not.....

And as for Snoopy, you pose an engineering based question rather than aesthetics. You can definately feel the difference between these and the 18'' Monzas I've just taken off. The steering feels fractionally chunkier. Over potholes they feel much the same. I've only driven a couple of fairly gentle miles on them so far so can't comment too much on feel etc.
But, like Monsieur Grenouille my car isn't a daily driver so the wear and tear issue won't hopefully be too evident too soon. I don't have a habit of keeping cars long anyway, but you never know, with the way car prices are going I won't be rushing to a dealership with my debit card anytime soon.
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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #13 on: 22 March 2010, 16:13 »
The thing i have against the scirocco wheels is the offset is different i just don't know yet without a bit of calcualtion what change in the forces acting on the suspension, suspension angles, tire ware this may have.

What's the difference in offset? I bet it's only small.

It shouldn't wear the tyres any differently as the gemotery remains the same. The only thing it will do it add a small amount of extra stress on ball joints, wheel bearings and track rod ends. The % of extra stress will be very small and likely make no difference to the life of the parts whatsoever.

Always felt the Monza wheels were amongst the poorest of the standard GTI alloys since the MKI. They just don't look sporty, they look best on a beetle :grin:

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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #14 on: 22 March 2010, 16:22 »
Horney, the width and offset of GTI wheels is 7.5J and 51mm. The Skyrocket uses Passat style suspension (Corrado style) and has 8J rims with 41mm ET. I previously had 8 inch wide BBS wheels on there with 44mm offset. The Scirocco wheels feel a bit different to those even despite being very similar dimensions. I think they may possibly be slightly heavier than the BBSs. They're made in Turkey too, which surprised me.  :nerd:
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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #15 on: 22 March 2010, 16:40 »
Horney, the width and offset of GTI wheels is 7.5J and 51mm. The Skyrocket uses Passat style suspension (Corrado style) and has 8J rims with 41mm ET. I previously had 8 inch wide BBS wheels on there with 44mm offset. The Scirocco wheels feel a bit different to those even despite being very similar dimensions. I think they may possibly be slightly heavier than the BBSs. They're made in Turkey too, which surprised me.  :nerd:

Looking at those ET figures the new rims are well within tolerance of factory components. Your'e not going to get any issues with extra wear occuring.

I bet they are heavier than the BBS though.

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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #16 on: 22 March 2010, 17:18 »
You can definately feel the difference between these and the 18'' Monzas I've just taken off. The steering feels fractionally chunkier. Over potholes they feel much the same. I've only driven a couple of fairly gentle miles on them so far so can't comment too much on feel etc.

That's interesting. As I insisted that the Monzas be ripped off and hidden in a dark cellar before delivery lest the general public behold their ugliness, I have only driven my GTI with the Interlagos. I agree that the extra offset does give the car a purposeful stance.

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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #17 on: 22 March 2010, 17:46 »
maybe a daft question but what have you done with the previous 4 sets of wheels ? isn't it costing you a fortune ?

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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #18 on: 22 March 2010, 18:48 »
maybe a daft question but what have you done with the previous 4 sets of wheels ? isn't it costing you a fortune ?
Set no.1 the originals are kept for when the car gets p/x'ed back to the dealer
Set no.2 were 18'' BBSs I had fitted to my mk5, just sold them  :cry:
Set no.3 were Monza IIs I bought for an experiment, never fitted them and sold them on again
Set no.4 are Black Detroits, quite fond of those, may sell 'em or may keep 'em for winter use
Set no.5 is the reason we're on this thread   :cool:

Fortune? Too much money probably but I'm a bargain hunter and none were that expensive. I don't exactly live a rock'n'roll lifestyle either so I can justify it to myself. Justifying it to the wife is another matter....... :grin:
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Re: Interlagos part deux
« Reply #19 on: 22 March 2010, 18:49 »
You can definately feel the difference between these and the 18'' Monzas I've just taken off. The steering feels fractionally chunkier. Over potholes they feel much the same. I've only driven a couple of fairly gentle miles on them so far so can't comment too much on feel etc.

That's interesting. As I insisted that the Monzas be ripped off and hidden in a dark cellar before delivery lest the general public behold their ugliness, I have only driven my GTI with the Interlagos. I agree that the extra offset does give the car a purposeful stance.

Why didnt you just buy a Roc if you wanted a lookalike ?  :wink:


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