Simple Amp Build, In Mk3 Gti

[DanoGTI]

What you could argue is that sound is purely subjective. This I can say with some authority as I'm a Professional Sound Engineer. There IS a lot of buying stuff because the badge is X or Y or Z.....

Boils down to how is actually sounds imho 

I've got JBL stuff in my studio (also got some Genelec and Dynaudio ), and have used a fair bit of it a pro level (high end audio, not car stuff admittedly) - it's got a characteristic that is quite "warm". A trait that is quite "marmite" - you either love it or hate it!!

Like with ANY brand, there are goodies and real lemons..... JBL are no different.

I personally like a warm sound (if I could valve-amp out my car, I would!!! ) and JBL stuff (some of it anyway) would suit the bill. I've focal and infinity stuff in previous cars, and imho it was too bright/harsh. Other passengers loved it though.

On a similar note, I had an Audi S4 with Bose - to my ears, I thought it sounded fantastic, not much mid, and as a whole not very accurate, but for what it was (out of the box), blinkin'  great.

I think the moral is don't knock anything until you've actually tried it, as it might just suit YOUR purposes, and nobody can argue the toss about what you listen to and why you listen to it.

Besides, we could all have the same setup, and due to how we hear it, it will sound different - one of the virtues of being human 

Just my 2p

Dan

[kells]

^^^

This man speaks the truth. It's exactly the same case for televisions, and many many other products across the board.

what the hell do u know, really?


and to whom in concearns, i was been sarcastic with my previous post, iv had more than one set of JBLs in my car, and the car came with a set, they were run on my alpine head and Pheonix gold amp, they were junk sounding but loud, swapped to focals with the exact same set up and boy what a huge difference, (sold the JBLS on here) i now have some £500 rainbow componets up front and the focals in the rear, and no i did not buy because of the name, i listened to just about all their was out their, one of my better friends is a incar audio installer so it was fitted and set up right and i got the rainbows and focals at a snip

love my home JBL monitors, but the car stuff is cheep... and sounds it. and the build quality is what you would expect from its price

i think someone mentioned its all down to personal taste, well thats the case here.. JBL stuff for my style of music is WACK!!!!!   

[Shady Pioneer]

^^^

This man speaks the truth. It's exactly the same case for televisions, and many many other products across the board.

what the hell do u know, really?
 

More than you or anyone else would give me credit for. 

[kells]

lol ok if you say so


on a side note, didnt you say you had JBL sub which blew after 7 months? interesting. and you dont even listen to banging music like i do

[Snoopy]

one of my better friends is a incar audio installer so it was fitted and set up right and i got the rainbows and focals at a snip    

If your friend is a real pro installer, have a word with him about the JBL driver models i stated originally, If he knows his stuff then he will tell you how not all JBL caraudio is junk as you keep saying it is.
From your statment above you seemed to assumed from when i said "As for the other parts i did say install and tuning if you don't understand these last two points (and few people do to the extent i meen) and the transfer function of the cars interior your basically pissing in the wind." you seemed to think i ment fitted in a door and level setup, it does not. Install and tuning is much more than that, as a start, ask your friend about baffle diffraction, Comb filtering, grill diffraction, off angle responce, pathlength differences, head related transfer function, cabin gain, cabin transfer function.... 
 

[Shady Pioneer]

I did say that yes. I then got an Infinity sub as that's what I wanted in the first place.


Infinity is the BEST in the WORLD.

[tommk3cab]

I don't own and never have owned a single piece of JBL equipment, the equipment I do own (some of it at least) would not even have been heard of by 90% of people with upgraded stereos.

I have a funny feeling your talking peerless, scanspeak and alike?

something like that yeah
I use vifa tweeters (more renowned in home audio), they came with the top of the range (IIRC) CTD comps a few years ago as an upgrade (for another 200 quid or something stupid), you can buy them (and I did) from vifa for £30 a pair and they are lovely but large  .

I use a starsound amp, which is identical to a certain model of atomic amp but 1/3 of the price. Starsound do this a lot, as mentioned by someone above, you pay for the name. I know though that if I heard the Atomic version of my amp it would sound a lot better even though I know its exactly the same:smiley:
 
who are you on TA BTW?

[Wayne]

^^^

This man speaks the truth. It's exactly the same case for televisions, and many many other products across the board.

what the hell do u know, really?
 

More than you or anyone else would give me credit for. 

  

[mark-mk3gti]

Here is said kicker sub, it's prob last years but for 40quid it'll keep me happy fo a while, well until the bug for it all really bites again!

Who'd of thought my little thread would turn into a clash of the brands! Lol look fwd to Reading more later, it's hard work on an iPhone!!

[kells]

one of my better friends is a incar audio installer so it was fitted and set up right and i got the rainbows and focals at a snip    

If your friend is a real pro installer, have a word with him about the JBL driver models i stated originally, If he knows his stuff then he will tell you how not all JBL caraudio is junk as you keep saying it is.
From your statment above you seemed to assumed from when i said "As for the other parts i did say install and tuning if you don't understand these last two points (and few people do to the extent i meen) and the transfer function of the cars interior your basically pissing in the wind." you seemed to think i ment fitted in a door and level setup, it does not. Install and tuning is much more than that, as a start, ask your friend about baffle diffraction, Comb filtering, grill diffraction, off angle responce, pathlength differences, head related transfer function, cabin gain, cabin transfer function.... 
 

dude... dress it up how you like.. JBL v Rainbow and focal in my car with the same set up for each.  all of which was set up by the same installers who sell all 3 brands (so no favoritism on their part), the JBLs were poop. they are what they are, and thats not high class.. im pretty shocked your even classing them as good

and i am a JBL fan at heart, so its not like im a hater, its quite the oppersite in fact,  been rocking them in my studio for over 10 years without fail, LOVE them, just not their car audio, cheep unreliable....and made in china i guess

proof i rock JBL at home!