Proof! GTD is slower than a GTI!

[mds69]

Try it, you might be surprised. I mean BTCC cars are FWD and they look a ball to drive.

Yep, silly to generalise!  My only track stuff has been in my Brother's old Lotus which is great and a Cooper S which was less great (although fast).

[ErikGTI]

I've read stuff like 'Cos they couldn't afford the GTI

The GTD suited me more because the company car tax and fuel costs were lower so I could spend more on important stuff like family holidays etc - much more important to me than how much faster my car goes than its diesel equivalent.

So in other words.......for you it IS a money issue.....uhhhmmmmm....so if you could afford the price-difference in buying and driving it and still spend an equal amount of money on other stuff....

[A7 UFO]

So in other words.......for you it IS a money issue.....uhhhmmmmm....so if you could afford the price-difference in buying and driving it and still spend an equal amount of money on other stuff....

if that was the case I'm sure he'd run a massive V8 instead of a 4 pot petrol. 

[mac7]

Thought I'd just contribute a set of performance figures taken from Volkswagen Driver magazine:

               Mk6 GTI   Mk6 GTD   Mk6 GTI   Mk5 GTI   Mk5 ED30
               Manual   Manual      DSG         Manual      Manual
0-60         6.3         7.5            6.5            6.0         5.6
0-80         9.6         12.6         10.1            10.7      9.4
30-50 3rd   3.2         3.1            2.4            3.0         2.9
50-70 4th   4.3         4.7            --            4.1         3.7

overall mpg   35.2      46.7         32.5         28.6         27.8

[olly1]

I went from a Mark V GTI to an Audi TT and I can say the TT was quicker.
From the TT changed to a GTD and obviously the TT was quicker.
I would also say the mark V GTI was quicker than the GTD so I don't think
for one minute my GTD is quicker than a Mark VI GTI !!!!!
The GTD is still quick in the real world for me but the GTI has to be quicker.
I was undecided what to buy but having had a Mark V GTI engine explode on me at 8,000 miles I went for the understated GTD with vancouver alloys.

[danski]

WHAT ?

So my new GTD that I`m getting wont be as fast as a GTI?

I DONT BELIIIEEEVE IT !!!!!!

 

Come on, its a diesel and looses 40 ponies to the petrol.
With a remap it may be different if the GTI isnt mapped, but it offered me the best of both worlds, pretty swift and great fuel consumption.
Like the man said, a few hundred quid when buying new is neither here nor there, I wanted the longevity of a diesel and the lower fuel bills, and
since I`m planning to keep it for 10 years plus, I`ll get plenty of benefit.

[mds69]

Thought I'd just contribute a set of performance figures taken from Volkswagen Driver magazine:

Good stuff.  I think the problem is that people read the 0-60 and think that's going to be repeated over several miles of track/road but the 30-50 and 50-70 times are closer to the probable result (multiplied number of corners).  Would be interesting (although probably very difficult) to see how much difference XDS makes - most of the difference between Mk5 and Mk6 on track?

[Graeme1978]

But in windy roads you would beat a GTI ? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease say yes.

I didn't say that.  I'm not one of the people suggesting the GTD is faster, what I am saying is that there isn't the huge gulf of difference some GTI owners are suggesting.

Given that the GTD can do 30-50 faster than the GTI then on windy roads it would be an incredibly close call, but no argument from me that overall the GTI is a faster car.

[Graeme1978]

So in other words.......for you it IS a money issue.....uhhhmmmmm....so if you could afford the price-difference in buying and driving it and still spend an equal amount of money on other stuff....

I didn't purchase the car, its a company expensed vehicle.  My outgoings are company car tax and personal fuel, both of which are cheaper than the GTI.  I can afford the GTI fuel costs and car tax no worries, I'd just rather spend the money elsewhere.

[VWKev]

Thought I'd just contribute a set of performance figures taken from Volkswagen Driver magazine:

               Mk6 GTI   Mk6 GTD   Mk6 GTI   Mk5 GTI   Mk5 ED30
               Manual   Manual      DSG         Manual      Manual
0-60         6.3         7.5            6.5            6.0         5.6
0-80         9.6         12.6         10.1            10.7      9.4
30-50 3rd   3.2         3.1            2.4            3.0         2.9
50-70 4th   4.3         4.7            --            4.1         3.7

overall mpg   35.2      46.7         32.5         28.6         27.8

Such a shame that in a forum where I thought there were some clued up people that this had to be posted to show the clueless that the GTI is faster. What am i saying, the GTD is faster and I'm sticking to that, I've has such a laugh here in work with this I aint changing my mind now.