Can't make up my mind: R or GTI? Please help.

[SilverChariot]

AWD system new?
I don't think so...its the same as the S3.

So tell me again...how does the Golf AWD system differ from Gen 2 Haldex driven off an 02M gearbox, from the same engine...as used in the Audi S3?

The AWD in the Mk6 Golf R is new(ish) - it's Haldex Gen IV without eLSD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_Traction#Fourth_generation_-_2007

It is also used in the facelift MY2009 Audi S3. Pre-facelift Audi S3 and Mk5 R32 used Gen II AFAIK:
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showpost.php?p=834906&postcount=25

[FroGTI]

When I got my GTI, I thought it was underpowered.

I had it remapped and now it goes as good as it sounds.

But I have traction issues now with the winter coming on.

So I need 4wd and wish I had the R.

But it's too expensive and looks vulgar.

Hope this helps

[SilverChariot]

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Hope this helps

Monsieur, êtes-vous jaloux peut-être?

[keyser]

35k for a Golf is a heck of a lot of money.  We all have our own opinions but if I was spending that amount I would be looking at a 6 month - 1 year old Porsche Cayman S.  Faster and more prestige - if that floats your boat.

[Booski]

35k for a Golf is a heck of a lot of money.  We all have our own opinions but if I was spending that amount I would be looking at a 6 month - 1 year old Porsche Cayman S.  Faster and more prestige - if that floats your boat.

I wish people would stop compairing a new AWD hot hatch with room for 5 and low/medium running costs I.e. Golf R.    With......
A used RWD sports car with 2 seats and high running costs I.e cayman S.

[SilverChariot]

I wish people would stop compairing a new AWD hot hatch with room for 5 and low/medium running costs I.e. Golf R.    With......
A used RWD sports car with 2 seats and high running costs I.e cayman S.

+1

[Ess_Three]

The AWD in the Mk6 Golf R is new(ish) - it's Haldex Gen IV without eLSD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_Traction#Fourth_generation_-_2007

It is also used in the facelift MY2009 Audi S3. Pre-facelift Audi S3 and Mk5 R32 used Gen II AFAIK:
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/showpost.php?p=834906&postcount=25

So it's the same Haldex based semi-4WD system that was used on the Mk1 S3s/TTs etc...but with different controller and software? Which is basically what it is...same hardware with a modified Haldex controller. Hardly new. Just revised...and only just getting good at stopping understeer.

Out of interest...if the Mk6 R used 4th Gen Haldex...where did 3rd Gen Haldex go?

[Tailpipe]

How good is the Golf R32's AWD system, anyway? I guess it lacks the finesse of Audi's Torsen system, but Haldex has a good reputation. Can you drive reasonably quickly on winter roads with confidence if not controllability?

BTW, I'd hate to have a Porsche. For a start only two seats, so it is a non-starter, and the image is horrible. You certainly can't turn up to the office driving one. The running costs are horrendous. And the bog standard Cayman is not that much faster than the humble Golf in the performance department. 

[p3eps]

I wish people would stop compairing a new AWD hot hatch with room for 5 and low/medium running costs I.e. Golf R.    With......
A used RWD sports car with 2 seats and high running costs I.e cayman S.

+2!!

Everyone always resorts back to a USED Cayman.  I'd rather boil my head than own a Porsche!

[Snoopy]

Everyone always resorts back to a USED Cayman.  I'd rather boil my head than own a Porsche!

I loved what Clarkson called them.