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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #50 on: 15 November 2009, 10:31 »
^^ yes i think you need to get a bit more information from dealer and compare different options, get him to explain them to you  :wink:
before you make your decision
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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #51 on: 15 November 2009, 10:34 »
I went through the options and made my mind up these are what i came too (why i deleted them my own personal reasons)
It was not a financial one i could have easily got them all but if i felt there was no point why not use that money for something else :wink:


5 door (i like the smaller doors easier to get in and out in car parks easier to give friends and family lifts)

DSG (I still cannot get on with it after 4 years of it on our car at work, It makes choices i would not and in traffic i don't feel in control)

Auto hold function (gimmic for people who cannot drive was my view)

Cruise control (I can hold it at a steady speed for hours also it was cheaper retro fitted for the mk5 so i would not be suprised if its the same again. I never seemed to use it much on past cars)

Xenons inc headlamp washers. (nearly did not go for them and was just going for headlamp washers)

Monza Shadows (White worm and corrosion also they do look a bit chav and halfords to me much prefer the monza IIs)

Tyre presure monitor (not the most reliable indicator from experience with my mk5 i can tell before it did.)

ACC (ruled out as will be very costly to replace when the dampers start to go soft around the 50K mark, i will own this car 10+ years i hope)

Winter pack (never since the mid to late 80s have i needed heated washer jets and even then it did not stop the pipes freezing. Heated seats felt no need with cloth had them before with cloth never used them. Headlamp washers i feel i need due to the amount of muck that gets stuck to the front of our mk5 on motorways)

Luxury pack (Folding door mirrors i don't need and i know local youths if the car is parked at the side of the road anywere the folding mirrors attract them to try and pull them off!. Puddle lights i felt no need for i never used them on my other cars in the past. Tilting passenger mirror i quite liked the idea of but when reversing out of my drive i cannot see the gates in that mirror when it tilts i can move and do the job manually if im worried that much)

Storage pack Underseat draws and 2 luggage nets. (I did not seem to use the net on the mk5 and the draws i can live without.)

Metallic paint (simply down to colour choice this one for me)

DAB/DVD satnav/ RCD510/Dynaudio (i thought about it just for the DAB arial especially as come 2012 analogue will be switched off. One of my hobbies is sound quality car audio so i ruled out all audio upgrades as i can do a better job aftermarket.

Telephone prep (Small number of phones it will work with)

Park assist+F&R sensors/Parking sensors/rear view camera(i can park and am able to drive our mk5 fine so cannot see why this will not be the same with our mk6, anyway the sensors flatline far too early)

Side airbag rear seats with seatbelt warning (our mk5 will be the main family car so ruled these out and i would hope i never wish i had them)

Leather (two of the cars i test drove had leather and i liked the smell! but our mk5 at work has leather and its sagged, creased and its gone very shiny it does not look good at all to me and looking at other mk5s it seems a common problem.)

Sunroof (I do like how it lets extra light in to such a dark cabin and it was the last options i crossed off. The reasons were i carry a few 6ft5+ friends often and they can struggle in cars with sunroofs the more headroom the better both front and rear. Also the blind can rattle, + i can crack the rear window to let air in alittle on a 5door.)



All the above are my OWN views everyone elses will be different please no one take offence, thank you.


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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #52 on: 15 November 2009, 10:47 »
I find the Dsg a lot smoother and no where near as indecisive as the box that was on my mk5 R32
Mk5 was gearing down into 1st when slowing down for junctions etc when you didnt want it too,(making it look that you cannot drive) Mk6 i havn't had any problems much more civilised imo, great piece of kit 
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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #53 on: 15 November 2009, 11:52 »

thnx, Snoopy!
What is white worm?
Did you order your car with those wheels?
If it's your main family car, isn't that reason for having rear side airbags? (although there are plenty of analysts in the car safety field who say they are dangerous near kids, that they protect adults but can injure kids.
Audio - I don't know much about it so assume that £350-odd is pretty cheap for an upgrade which will be good enough for me.
Xenons - pointless for me.
Thnx again!

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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #54 on: 15 November 2009, 12:04 »

thnx, Snoopy!
What is white worm?
Did you order your car with those wheels?
If it's your main family car, isn't that reason for having rear side airbags? (although there are plenty of analysts in the car safety field who say they are dangerous near kids, that they protect adults but can injure kids.
Audio - I don't know much about it so assume that £350-odd is pretty cheap for an upgrade which will be good enough for me.
Xenons - pointless for me.
Thnx again!
White worm.
The 18" monza shadows have a top surface that is a machined than lacured finished rather than painted or powdercoated like other alloys are. What happens is over time either the lacure is breached (stone chip etc or with tempuratures the metal expands and shinks more than it does or it becomes more brittle with the heat, it also does not bond to the metal very well so it can lift in places especially the edges. These problems cause whats known as 'white worm' (see photo below)
This only effects a polished/lac or machined/lac finished type wheel it does not effect the powdercoated finish on the 17" standard wheels.



VW will replace wheels that suffer this under warrenty as long as it was not caused by curbing etc but after 3 years your on your own. Which is why i did not go for them. I did not go for the optional 18" shadow wheels i went for the standard powdercoated 17s i went for function over looks for the wheels so i get less hassle.



Family car,
The mk6 will be my own commuter car. Our family car is a mk5 that my other half has. This is why i did not go for the rear airbags also theres an another reason that only effects me and that is for one of my hobbies im into soundquality car audio getting all the cables from the rear of the car to the front is far far far far far far far easier if the rear side seat airbags are not fitted.

Audio,
I have said in quite a few threads for the money and an oem upgrade i rate the dynaudio tonality and think for what you get ie dynaudio speakers etc its a bargin at the price VW are doing it.

My order,
My order was very basic in the end i went for a manual 5door + Shadow Blue metallic paint + Xenon Headlights(that inc headlamp washers).
I came to the conclusions as i said above, of i may what something, but after sitting down and thinking about it logically for days i did not really need it or probably use it much at all if i had got it, so 99.9% got crossed off my list. You could say as my wife says i treated myself with the xenons rather than the winterpack (to get the headlamp washers) :wink:
« Last Edit: 15 November 2009, 12:22 by Snoopy »
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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #55 on: 15 November 2009, 12:49 »
Thnx, Snoopy

White worm - yuk? Standard 17's don't do that? - your wheels look very different - aren't they black?

Rear side airbags - I understand your decision - my mark 6 wouldn't be family car so could go for my preferred 3 door (no disrespect to 5 dr owners) - I read tougher body shell which is good if kids are in the back

thnx, again 

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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #56 on: 15 November 2009, 12:53 »
surely VW must be fixing that issue due to the high numbers buying the 18" Monza shaddows?
Thats very very poor otherwise

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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #57 on: 15 November 2009, 13:46 »
Thnx, Snoopy

White worm - yuk? Standard 17's don't do that? - your wheels look very different - aren't they black?
No the 17s do not suffer this as they are painted or a powdercoated finish.
The photo i posted is of a 18" monza II wheels fitted to the mk5 GTI, the only difference is the gray inner sections on the monza II are black on the Monza Shadows as fitted to the mk6 but the outer surface is the same.

Jellycat,
You cannot fix it. Its a problem that every wheel with that type of finish suffer eventually over time its because lacquer is directly applied to a metal finish rather than a painted one. You would think VW/Audi/SEAT would have learnt from past problems with this type of wheel finish. As they have had problems with wheels with this type of finish since the 80s!! 
« Last Edit: 15 November 2009, 13:50 by Snoopy »
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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #58 on: 15 November 2009, 13:52 »
Thnx, Snoopy - I might stick with 17's - if I get 18's, when would ww be likely to first appear - any idea as to cost of replacement of 18'' Monza Shadows?

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Re: ACC AND SUNROOF or Leather
« Reply #59 on: 15 November 2009, 14:00 »
When, that seems to depends on alot of things. I had it on the mk5 wheels after about 2 years and as soon as it starts it speads like weeds. Some have not had it in 4 years. Some have suffered with it within months. Anal care of the wheels is the key regular waxing and cleaning. I also think location and weather have a huge impact on when it happens. VW will replace them for you in the 3 year warrenty period.
After that you can get them refurbed at a cost of £55-£100 a wheel depending were your at, the really good recomended places normally charge ~£100 a wheel.
« Last Edit: 15 November 2009, 14:02 by Snoopy »
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