Will it be fixable? Bodging is the way forward...

[Jay]

so its fcuked then 

No, because it can be sorted with a little work 

[Guy]

Nope, bag of f@cking nails at first then it grenaded, threw a rod and put a hole in the engine, been down the hospital with my brother in law since 11am as he was standing in front of it when this happened and got said rod in the eye*

*This may not have actually happened.

did this happen or not? 

[JC]

so its fcuked then 

No, because it can be sorted with a little work 

hopefully 

[Diamond Hell]

You need to clean the thread on the hole for the glowplug, or try another one - it *might* go in square.  I've found before now that if you're determined about this sort of thing, provided you've not been too aggressive about screwing in the glowplug cross-threaded, if you hold it square it'll sometimes hold steady on the 'right' path and screw in.

Just make sure you're not struggling because there's junk in either the plug threads, or the head threads.

Oh and quit trying to start it with a glowplug out - are you TRYING to kill it?!

[Jay]

did this happen or not? 

No    Pity, because my brother in law could do with a face lift the ugly f@cker 

so its fcuked then 

No, because it can be sorted with a little work 

hopefully 

CQ want £400-£500 for head off and rethreading of the GP hole, this means timing belt change, head gasket change, retime injection pump and engine, change GP relay as this might cause the GP light to flash fooling you into thinking it's water in the fuel (although there could be water in the fuel filter too) drain fuel tank if required and blow out the fuel lines. 

The question, is it worth it on a cat c ?  I tempted because as you've seen chuff the shell is pretty good (bar the small dents in the arse end).


DH, the problem is it's GP for cyl #1 which is right behind the IP at a b@stard angle, I tried 2 different GP's their threads are still 100% after going in and coming out and checking them over and I tried getting something in there to clean it but it's such an awkward place.

If I was confident in timing up the engine & IP I'd whop the head off and have CQ rethread the hole and refit the head myself, but I don't have the dial gauge or any tools to do it properly, as well as no where to do it.


EDIT:
Just had a thought, my uncle was trying to be helpful yesterday and only put 1 of the 2 cables that go to the GP Bus bar on and when we cranked her over they saw a flash from the GP relay cage area, so that's £30 to replace with a similar relay as the OE's for this engine are discontinued and were £75...

I might give try the GP another try with a tube of thread lock or if someone can recommend something stronger or more heat resistant, I'll give that a go.

So for the price of some high temp thread lock type stuff and a new relay,  I might get her working again

Had a change of mind, £400 (or up to £500+) on a Cat C, is a lot of money! So looks like I've got a project, just need a place to store it until I can get the tools and do it myself!


I'll be looking @ newer cars sooner now, the  Jetta 140TDI's are very appealing with the large boot space, Golf Plus don't seem to have that much more space than a normal Golf... The Sharan's are also appealing with the large boot space when the 2 rear seats are removed.

[JC]

Jay,

you have a new bambino on the way

you cat c'd it and got some cash back - did you not,

its caused you a FAIR bit of grief,

you cant get it to your house without decking it

and you have already said you are getting a sharan or similar.

its a cat c

cut your losses, sell it as a going concern and stick the 500 sheets into the new motor.

just my views like.  i know these things, i sold my 2 VERY cheap as i couldnt warrant spending out on summat that effectively i didnt need ( or want  i my case )

you effectlively have a car for free there, after the insurance payout, so can sell on and add further to the new car fund.

[Jay]

I know what you're saying mate, but I won't get much for the little bugger and the bigger / newer car is a defo anyway which we've started sorting out already (pre-submarine duty). I *should* also be getting a substantial increase soon, so that will cover the Jetta/Golf Plus/Sharan (w/e we decide on) easily, with some money each month to a project car.

[JC]

true mate,

but again

1, it doesnt owe you much if anything 

2, current locat -  where are you doing this project ? 

3, bambino - when will you do this project 

4, wife - does she know about this project. 

5. cat c - not a good basis for a project. 

but hey, i drive a skoda 

[Jay]

1. Not much 

2. Brother in laws garage, he's got loads of space 

3. On weekends while we go visit my sister  :grin It'll keep my brother in law, his eldest son and me out of trouble 

4. Yes, she said OK as long as I don't go OTT

5. Not the most ideal base, but for a track slag/strip runner it would do, that way the body work won't matter 


I am tempted to put thread lock on the GP, shove it in tight & change the GP relay and try start her, if she doesn't work sell the GP relay on (£30) and store her. If she does work, run her till MOT time as a daily and save on the new car's mileage, then shove her in the outlaws or brother in laws garage and eventually break her or shove another engine in.

So for £35 (gotta be worth a punt?) I might get her running, only problem is it won't be till the weekend now as I go back to work tomorrow and it's too dark by the time I get home to f@ck about in a area I can barely get my hands in and changing the oil in the dark is no fun 

[Jay]

Praps sommat like this to repair the thread in the GP hole?