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Offline Jay

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Will it be fixable? Bodging is the way forward...
« on: 08 November 2009, 17:29 »
Righto then... ummmm... feeling pretty stupid right now    :embarassed: 


Cut a long story short, I drove through a stream that looked ALOT shallower than what it is!

I thought I would be able to make it because it looked OK... got 1/2 way then the car just cut out, seems the middle dips down and it was almost up to the window   


Managed to get pulled out by a passerby (who just so happens to have a large Land Rover Discovery 3 with winch ... wonder why...  :rolleyes:  ) got recovered home eventually after waiting almost 2 hours in soaked clothes in the freezing cold and now have the car sitting outside.

While waiting for the recovery man my brother in law who came too see if he could help (take the P!ss more like  ) said to try crank it over after we had waited for it to drain out as much as it would, the starter motor never spun (thankfully!) and there was nothing other than a short 'DURR', we called a mechanic my brother in law knows and he said not to try start it because it can cause a hydro lock and bend the rods or some catastrophic failure to that effect.


So do I just let it sit for a day or two then change the oil and oil filter and try crank it over?


What else should I do? and what else should I look for?

To say I am gutted is an understatement  :cry:  Remember it's a Turbo Diesel,
« Last Edit: 18 November 2009, 09:46 by Jay »
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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #1 on: 08 November 2009, 17:47 »
You need to drain the oil first off. Then get the injectors and glo plugs out and turn the engine over by hand. You could even turn it over on the starter for a couple of seconds. No harm will come to it. Change the oil filter and fill with oil. Refit the injectors and glo plugs and try starting it. You need to do this sooner rather than later though or the bores can start glazing over with rust very quickley.


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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #2 on: 08 November 2009, 18:10 »
Thanks! I'll try do that tomorrow, I'm still trying to up warm at right now  :sick:

The cambelt looks OK and I didn't see any holes in the engine, so hopefully the internals are good to go.

The electrics seem OK because the lights on the dash come on as per normal, GP light comes on and goes off in the same amount of time, central locking still works etc...


Now remind me why I wanted a lowered Golf instead of fixing my 4x4 Frontera?  :laugh: 

At least I'm not the only idiot, the recovery guy said I was at least the 3rd person this week he knew of...  :undecided:
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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #3 on: 08 November 2009, 18:16 »
if the engine cut out, and the starter couldn't move the crank.. i would assume the damage is already done :undecided:

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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #4 on: 08 November 2009, 18:20 »
I don't think the starter spun at all, because it was a really quick noise when trying to turn it over and not a constant trying to crank over noise...  :undecided: if that makes sense...
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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #5 on: 08 November 2009, 19:25 »
How quick did you go through it?

How much throttle were you using at the time?

Is the airfilter wet?

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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #6 on: 08 November 2009, 19:36 »
How quick did you go through it?

How much throttle were you using at the time?

Is the airfilter wet?

I didn't go through quick at all, I didn't give it that much throttle ( I know you should ) because I didn't think it would get as high as the exhaust. I think some water got in the air filter.

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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #7 on: 08 November 2009, 19:57 »
Before ordering and potentially wasting money i would pull the injectors and glow plugs out and try turning the engine by hand to make sure it does still turn.
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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #8 on: 08 November 2009, 20:11 »
Too late, just ordered that stuff. If I don't use it I'm sure they'll take it all back.
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Re: Will it be fixable? (Drove through deep water)
« Reply #9 on: 08 November 2009, 20:15 »
Before ordering and potentially wasting money i would pull the injectors and glow plugs out and try turning the engine by hand to make sure it does still turn.

As above I would remove the injectors and see if it turns over, I would suspect the damage is done however.