Author Topic: JonL's 8v budget track toy - now going to be a race car! ;-)  (Read 55135 times)

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #100 on: 17 October 2009, 08:33 »
i have 2 on the rado. cant really comment on quality, they have only been on it a month! good so far though

try a blowtorch on the rod ends, they can be a bastard to remove though

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #101 on: 17 October 2009, 09:47 »
A blowtorch is unlikely to help as it's simply not hot enough to make a significant difference, although you could try doing that then putting the end of the end (as it were) into cold water - it might suck enough heat out of the end to crack the joint.

Really you want oxy-acetylene on it, a BIG vice and a BIG hammer.

Personally I wouldn't bother re-using the boots.  With the extra heat and stress on them from running on a track they're likely to fail pretty quickly.  Get new boots and a pair of CV boot pliers from GSF for £15 and do the job properly.  Having changed boots in the dark, in Nurburg on DannyP's car after old ones failed fast it's not a shortcut I'd recommend to anyone with a track car.

it does, but as said previously, your test was flawed and should be discounted, therefore you have no practical experience

the real test is to remove the tt bushes and refit the poly bushes, then see what the difference is

I've had the bushes side by side and checked them over in my very own hands.  However, I have to agree with Mark, at the age of 34 I do have no practical experience. 

Mark, although it clearly has no impact on your experience and understanding of things, remind the audience of your age?
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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #102 on: 17 October 2009, 10:06 »
27. what bearing does that have on the argument? none?

do the test properly then come back on here and shout about how good they are.

' oh look my wishbone is stiffer after putting rubber bushes in it, it must be the rubber bush making it stiffer, not the stitch welding that i did at the same time '

retard


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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #103 on: 17 October 2009, 13:16 »
Have you seen, held or checked over the bushes I'm talking about?
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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #104 on: 17 October 2009, 13:23 »
Urrrgggghhhhh you two just need to agree to disagree on this one, I'm getting bored of it now.

May I suggest that stitch welding the wishbones is good. Poly Bushes are good and TT rear bushes are also good. As to which is ultimately the best bush is a matter of user based opinion at this time.

At the end of the day Jon just wants help getting his car ready and you two bickering isn't really helping. Either option of bush will give him great handling and we can argue the finer points of which bush is better in an alternative thread.

Now play nicely or I'll have to beat both of you round a circuit and make you cry :wink: which give me no satisfaction as I consider you both good friends and would hate to have make you feel small by being beaten by a 2wd 8v on K-Jet :grin:

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #106 on: 17 October 2009, 18:55 »

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #107 on: 19 October 2009, 09:47 »
Thanks nick, I'll have a look at those seats.  I have been offered the loan of a race seat for the first track day.  Oh and the DCOS has agreed to me booking 02 Dec so that will be cast in stone later today.  For those interested 02 Dec at Bedford Autodrome, novices only day, come and watch me crawling round a track for the first time! ;)  As for the great bush debate I will go with the easiest option which, I suspect, will be to buy a complete set of poly ones.  This way I will get everything I need in one hit and can play at a later date.  I will not be welding the wishbone, at this time, I don’t need additional jobs there are enough as it is! 

This weekend I completely stripped the hubs down, less the wheel bearings, and everything is now in it’s component parts in the garage.  I am starting on the clean-up and will then paint and place on one side for the big re-fit.  A friend has told me that if you get some Hammerite spray paint and heat it in a saucepan of hot water for a bit before you spray you get excellent adhesion.  I will be trying this, when the DCOS is out, as an alternative to powdercoat as it is significantly cheaper.  If it doesn’t work out I will have to go the whole hog but it should last for a bit.  I was also discussing harnesses and recon that if I get a brace-bar made that fits between the rear inertia reel mounts and is the braced forwards from the middle to the floor mounts behind the front inertia reel mounts that is would be solid enough and at the correct height.  Not the best description I know but if you have a look it will make sense, I will try and get a photo to show later.  That would negate the need to weld to the shell and cost significantly less that a half cage.  Any thoughts?  More as it happens,

Jon

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #108 on: 19 October 2009, 10:02 »
In order to keep me on track, pun intended, and assist in my planning I thought that I would creat a list of jobs that need doing.  I will then be able to tick them off as they are completed and keep an eye on where I am.  It also gives everyone else a chance to comment on my progress and point out anything that I have forgotten!

So jobs that need to be done:

Clean Wishbones 19/10/09
Paint wishbones
Fit new ball joints
Fit new bushes
Initial clean of Hubs 19/10/09
Shot blast hubs
Paint hubs
Fit new wheel bearings
Strip, clean and inspect Driveshafts and CV joints
Fit new CV joints
Re-assemble driveshafts and fit new boots
Clean and inspect ARB
Clean calliper carriers - 19/10/09
Paint calliper carriers
Clean and inspect Callipers - 19/10/09
Shot blast callipers
Service, if necessary
Paint callipers
Assemble hubs complete
Clean track rod ends - New track ends ordered
Paint track rod ends - New track rod ends ordered
Fit new track rod end joints
Strip front suspension off the Golf
Re-fit Passat suspension to Golf
Fit braided brake hoses
Renew brake fluid and bleed system
Full 4-wheel alignment and set-up
Check all engine hoses and renew as necessary
Flush radiator and refill with coolant – at increased strength
Change oil filter
Renew oil
Tune engine (Rub you may get a call here! ;))
Fit new wing mirrors, current ones fold up at any speed!
Complete plastic door cards and fit
Fill with Super
Enjoy!

Optional jobs – times money permitting:

Fit new front seats – see above post for options
Design and manufacture harness bar and fit
Fit harnesses
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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #109 on: 19 October 2009, 10:13 »
I thought that I would put up a list of parts I think I need and my planned supplier.  If anyone has a better idea for a bit or knows of a better place to buy then please let me know.

Things I need to buy:

Ball joints - GSF
Front suspension bush set poly (?) – GSF?
Track rod joints - GSF
Wheel bearings - GSF
CV Joints complete - will give E-bay a chance (but am keeping the old ones clean and safe just in case)
256mm Discs - ?
Mintex 1155 Pads (the most recommended on here) - ?
Braded brake lines - ?
Track rod joints - GSF
G60 front strut top mounts - GSF

Optional purchases:

Harness bar – Purpose made
Seat mountings - ?
Harnesses - ?