rear brake problem

[harlemex]

Harlemax, have you looked up how a stretch bolt works yet? 

you should stick with brown nosing, bully boy.

More abuse.
Just admit, YOU ARE Q.UEER 

Engineers my eye. Anyhow, you have just exposed what you really know all about and thats how to behave like a complete and utter nobody.

[AudiA8Quattro]

If you say so.
You disagreed with me, but then everyone else disagreed with you, then you threw all your toys out of your pram.
Your opinion is your opinion, but no-one agrees with it.

[Matty-MK3]

Sometimes using the original bolts is far better then the cheap pieces of sh!t they give you with the brake pads.

Much stronger, we've always found VW bolts to be stronger.

We tested this in front of a customer that  moaning that we didn't change the bolts, try it yourself, get an old caliper carrier and torque an old bolt with the new ones in a vice.

We showed the one they gave us sheering off 5nm before the old one.


Your choice. 

[harlemex]

If you say so.
You disagreed with me, but then everyone else disagreed with you, then you threw all your toys out of your pram.
Your opinion is your opinion, but no-one agrees with it.

you were the one who disagreed with me. Some agree with you cause they dont want to be victimized, not cos the agree with you.
My opinion is that you threw your toys out the pram not me. Anyhow you were Quoting factory manuals that agreed with me. So does everyone agree that they are wrong ?
Anyway I didnt mean to upset you so in the first place, I was tryin to help the guy at the beginning of this awful thread(get it?)

[harlemex]

Sometimes using the original bolts is far better then the cheap pieces of sh!t they give you with the brake pads.

Much stronger, we've always found VW bolts to be stronger.

We tested this in front of a customer that  moaning that we didn't change the bolts, try it yourself, get an old caliper carrier and torque an old bolt with the new ones in a vice.

We showed the one they gave us sheering off 5nm before the old one.


Your choice. 

I wasnt disputing this, get new vw ones then, its good for peace of mind.

[AudiA8Quattro]

This is how i see normal bolts and stretch bolts. I'm sure i'll be corrected if i'm wrong  
All bolts stretch when torqued up, however a stretch bolt is designed to stretch further than the elastic limit of a normal bolt. At this point a normal bolt will break.
The effect of this is once the bolt has stretched, it compresses against the thread, in effect making it like a 'self locking' bolt.
The reason these bolts must always be replaced is once stretched, they will be need to be torqued up even tighter to 'lock' the bolt. Therefore you cannot know if you are using the correct torque and risk breaking the bolt as it will be weaker.
Normal bolts will not stretch in this way, so are normally ok to re-use.
The other method of locking a bolt is loctite, which prevents the thread from vibrating loose.
Also nuts with nylock or slightly off shaped nuts can be used to lock a bolt/stud.
The bolts used on a golf rear caliper are small, but are only tightened to 26lb ft. At such a small torque it is very unlikely that distortion,stretch or damage would occur.

[AudiA8Quattro]

If you say so.
You disagreed with me, but then everyone else disagreed with you, then you threw all your toys out of your pram.
Your opinion is your opinion, but no-one agrees with it.

you were the one who disagreed with me. Some agree with you cause they dont want to be victimized, not cos the agree with you.
My opinion is that you threw your toys out the pram not me. Anyhow you were Quoting factory manuals that agreed with me. So does everyone agree that they are wrong ?
Anyway I didnt mean to upset you so in the first place, I was tryin to help the guy at the beginning of this awful thread(get it?)

People agreed with me because that is their opinion!
Victimized by me? what utter sh!te 
You started the abuse, and yes i should of choose to ignore it, but hey thats me 
I do normally go by the factory repair manual, however in this situation its good to use a bit of common sense, if i had any doubt about the condition of any bolts, i will bin them.
Its been an interesting discussion, however i do think you should listen to other people's opinions 

[gtiscott]

anyway guys....car going into garage tommorrow guy said 'its a common thing in golfs' for bolts to shear. but of course he is going to say that to cover himself

scott

[gtigolfthree]

What bolt was it that sheared?

[harlemex]

anyway guys....car going into garage tommorrow guy said 'its a common thing in golfs' for bolts to shear. but of course he is going to say that to cover himself

scott

nuff said