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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #30 on: 05 August 2009, 13:58 »
The reason you get new sliders with brake kits is because they have a tendency to sieze not a tendency to snap. The short studs that hold the sliders in place having worked in a garage for years as a labourer doing brakes services clutches etc. I personally have never known one of these to snap unless you overtighten but that could also happen weith a new bolt. Of course if it is undertightened it could come loose but I dont think thats whats happened here as the caliper would not swing round. I think that it is the carrier that has come loose probably through human error rather than mechanical failure seeing its just had said brake serviced.

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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #31 on: 05 August 2009, 18:04 »
what if the old manky bolts happened to stretch or weaken? They could break. Any bolt that has had loctite on it must be re newed. The excess torque required to crack these may weaken the bolts. How many more ways would you like this put? Shall we start a poll on the subject? You two are wrong, I am right, just face it.

I work with heavy plant every day (up to 50 ton), if a bolt is a stretch bolt then it should always be replaced without fail, any other bolt can be reused even if it has loctite on it, some of the bolts on the undercarriage of a machine are torqued to 500lbs ft and are always reused, most bolts are 8.8 grade and will cope with being torqued many times, if it should get weak then it will tend to shear off before torque is reached.

So sorry on this occasion I believe you are wrong.

Correct.
The only time a bolt MUST be replace is if its a stretch bolt.
Do you understand what a stretch bolt is harlemex?
Do you also understand the difference between using loctite on a normal bolt and a stretch bolt?
Infact do you have any understanding about locking a thread?  :rolleyes:

I understand what a stretch bolt is ie. head bolts. So you are telling me that manuals tell you to replace the bolts because you might not even if they are in bad condition? Do they say this for all other bolts too. As for your 500 pounds of torque on a plant machine, well so what? Have you noticed how small these bolts are? bolts on brakes are safety critical, you should replace them,
 you are still talking bollox and so you and your ass lickin pal should go back to school.

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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #32 on: 05 August 2009, 18:10 »
what if the old manky bolts happened to stretch or weaken? They could break. Any bolt that has had loctite on it must be re newed. The excess torque required to crack these may weaken the bolts. How many more ways would you like this put? Shall we start a poll on the subject? You two are wrong, I am right, just face it.

I work with heavy plant every day (up to 50 ton), if a bolt is a stretch bolt then it should always be replaced without fail, any other bolt can be reused even if it has loctite on it, some of the bolts on the undercarriage of a machine are torqued to 500lbs ft and are always reused, most bolts are 8.8 grade and will cope with being torqued many times, if it should get weak then it will tend to shear off before torque is reached.

So sorry on this occasion I believe you are wrong.

Correct.
The only time a bolt MUST be replace is if its a stretch bolt.
Do you understand what a stretch bolt is harlemex?
Do you also understand the difference between using loctite on a normal bolt and a stretch bolt?
Infact do you have any understanding about locking a thread?  :rolleyes:

I understand what a stretch bolt is ie. head bolts. So you are telling me that manuals tell you to replace the bolts because you might not even if they are in bad condition? Do they say this for all other bolts too. As for your 500 pounds of torque on a plant machine, well so what? Have you noticed how small these bolts are? bolts on brakes are safety critical, you should replace them,
you are still talking bollox and so you and your ass lickin pal should go back to school.


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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #33 on: 05 August 2009, 18:13 »
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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #34 on: 05 August 2009, 18:16 »
what if the old manky bolts happened to stretch or weaken? They could break. Any bolt that has had loctite on it must be re newed. The excess torque required to crack these may weaken the bolts. How many more ways would you like this put? Shall we start a poll on the subject? You two are wrong, I am right, just face it.

I work with heavy plant every day (up to 50 ton), if a bolt is a stretch bolt then it should always be replaced without fail, any other bolt can be reused even if it has loctite on it, some of the bolts on the undercarriage of a machine are torqued to 500lbs ft and are always reused, most bolts are 8.8 grade and will cope with being torqued many times, if it should get weak then it will tend to shear off before torque is reached.

So sorry on this occasion I believe you are wrong.

Correct.
The only time a bolt MUST be replace is if its a stretch bolt.
Do you understand what a stretch bolt is harlemex?
Do you also understand the difference between using loctite on a normal bolt and a stretch bolt?
Infact do you have any understanding about locking a thread?  :rolleyes:

I understand what a stretch bolt is ie. head bolts. So you are telling me that manuals tell you to replace the bolts because you might not even if they are in bad condition? Do they say this for all other bolts too. As for your 500 pounds of torque on a plant machine, well so what? Have you noticed how small these bolts are? bolts on brakes are safety critical, you should replace them,
 you are still talking bollox and so you and your ass lickin pal should go back to school.

Shut up.
You don't know what you're talking about, no-one is agreeing with you.
Go back to reading your haynes manual you incompetent little t.wat  :rolleyes:
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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #35 on: 05 August 2009, 18:20 »
Harlemax, have you looked up how a stretch bolt works yet?  :grin:
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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #36 on: 05 August 2009, 18:20 »
your the one that doesnt know what your talkin about and i dont care who agrees or not, its a fact. you think you know everything just coz you sit on here all day rackin up posts. I bet youve hardly ever lifted a spanner. Maybe you should read your manual on manners. d.ick head.

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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #37 on: 05 August 2009, 18:21 »
Harlemax, have you looked up how a stretch bolt works yet?  :grin:

you should stick with brown nosing, bully boy.

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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #38 on: 05 August 2009, 18:23 »
your the one that doesnt know what your talkin about and i dont care who agrees or not, its a fact. you think you know everything just coz you sit on here all day rackin up posts. I bet youve hardly ever lifted a spanner. Maybe you should read your manual on manners. d.ick head.

You started the abuse, you little f**king tosser  :grin:
Thats is because you are totally sussed out, just face it little f.aggot boy  :laugh:
Two engineers have said you are wrong, not just me.
So just face it, put your hands up when you're wrong  :rolleyes:
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Re: rear brake problem
« Reply #39 on: 05 August 2009, 18:24 »
Harlemax, have you looked up how a stretch bolt works yet?  :grin:

you should stick with brown nosing, bully boy.

More abuse.
Just admit, YOU ARE Q.UEER  :grin:
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