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Offline JC

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #31 on: 29 December 2009, 18:54 »
im an advert for hids aparently so on that basis i say just DO IT  :grin:

4k is what manufactures use, 6k is the best, 8k is getting chavvy and anything beyond is not only daft but also not very bright

lower the rating the more white it will be

mine are 6k

lower the rating the more yellow they will be.. non?

dunno bout yellow, they say the lower the rating the more white, the higher the rating the more blue if that makes sense

4k and 6k are the closest to natural daylight

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #32 on: 29 December 2009, 19:01 »
When the rate is higher it goes blue, and then purple.

6k-8k is bright crystal white/blue'ish
10k is strong blue
12k-14 is purple, which is obviously illegal and for off-road use only.
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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #33 on: 29 December 2009, 19:04 »
higher number = more blue

but trust me 6k has a blue look, anything more is chavvy

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Re: HID and the law..
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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #35 on: 29 December 2009, 19:25 »
http://www.phoenixautobulbs.co.uk/articles/are-hid-kits-legal-355.html

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Interesting link:  :rolleyes:

The first HID kits appeared several year ago now and their popularity continues to increase with there now being hundreds of different types available in a range of colours, most of which have originated from the Far East, most notably China. However despite the huge growth in popularity one question still remains - Are HID Kits Legal on UK Roads?

The Department of Transport says that for a aftermarket HID Headlamp Unit to be road legal in the UK it must be:

1.  Type approved to ECE Regulations 98 as a Component

2.  When fitted to a vehicle should Enable ECE Regulation 48 to be Complied with (although no government inspection will take place)

3.  Comply with RVLR as far as “use” is concerned 

In Practice this Means the Following

a.  The Headlamp Unit (Outer Lens, Reflector and Bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be E marked to demonstrate this

b.  Once fitted to a vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension – some expensive estate cars have self levelling suspension and that is adequate).  Also dipped beam must stay on with main beam.

c.  The Headlight must be in good working order, kept clean and correctly aligned

It is important to note that the Department of Transport classify the Headlamp Unit to be the Outer Lens, Reflector and Bulb and ALL of these parts must comply with ECE Regulation 98 and be E marked to demonstrate this fact.
 

To conclude the Department of Transport say you are NOT permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp for use with HID bulbs.  The Entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules above.

Remember under the Road Traffic Act 1998 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal

It is for these reasons that all HID kits should be sold by responsible retailers as “For Off-Road and Show Use Only”.
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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #36 on: 29 December 2009, 19:26 »
higher number = more blue

but trust me 6k has a blue look, anything more is more chavvy than standard chav

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #37 on: 29 December 2009, 19:29 »
check the link http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

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In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

The following is the legal rationale:

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.

that's the argument finally to bed  :smiley:
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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #38 on: 29 December 2009, 19:31 »
only til morning  :grin:

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #39 on: 29 December 2009, 19:33 »
check the link http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps

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In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

The following is the legal rationale:

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.

that's the argument finally to bed  :smiley:

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