Author Topic: HID and the law.. (they are illegal)  (Read 24236 times)

Offline Wayne

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #50 on: 29 December 2009, 20:25 »
I am old enough to remember driving with standard light bulbs, the step up to the new fangled halogen bulbs was staggering, but I remember people who could not afford them, they were expensive initially saying they were being blinded by the new halogens. These hids are also expensive and we are getting similar arguements from people who do not yet have them.

Thats not the point, they are illegal unless fitted to a headlamp with the correct beam pattern.

Offline VR6-Joe

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #51 on: 29 December 2009, 20:27 »
Hmm another thing to consider is the fact my car is lowered a lot more at the front than it is at the back so my headlights may be pointing down towards the floor?
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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #52 on: 29 December 2009, 20:28 »

Come to think of it, I've painted the upper and lower parts of my reflector black (for the 'smoked' look) could this have made a difference?

just a lot  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

sort of defies the point of an upgrade in the first place  :laugh:

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #53 on: 29 December 2009, 20:31 »
In fairness to Joe, the reflectors being painted would take away a lot of the main light, and also the fact his car is lower would also play a part, compared to your standard cars with standard suspension this would make the light notablly lower than standard.

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #54 on: 29 December 2009, 20:35 »
Hmm another thing to consider is the fact my car is lowered a lot more at the front than it is at the back so my headlights may be pointing down towards the floor?

So your beam pattern is pointed more to the floor which isn't how they are legally supposed to be, so by your own admission that maybe the reason why your saying you don't blind people but if your headlights were then aligned correctly then they would blind people like every other person driving round with these hid kits.

And a simple little drive towards each other isn't really an adequate test.

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #55 on: 29 December 2009, 20:36 »
In fairness to Joe, the reflectors being painted would take away a lot of the main light, and also the fact his car is lower would also play a part, compared to your standard cars with standard suspension this would make the light notablly lower than standard.

Nope as you should really check / adjust beam height after lowering, what is the point of lights that do not light the road ahead.  :rolleyes:

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #56 on: 29 December 2009, 20:36 »
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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #57 on: 29 December 2009, 20:37 »
Hmm another thing to consider is the fact my car is lowered a lot more at the front than it is at the back so my headlights may be pointing down towards the floor?

nope, as for the MOT your lights need to be at a certain level

have you passed a mot with yours like i have??

your not running projectors, so i must admit they do dazzle as the light pattern is on the piss big time, wack em in projectors and its all good in my opinion, fook what anyone says, they dont dazzle no mor ethan the BMWs and my mk 4 (which like you say, do dazzle the fook out of you haha)



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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #58 on: 29 December 2009, 20:40 »
Any lights can blind when going over bumps, it's just HIDs are so bright that they blind more-so.

I got rid of my HIDs after Wanye and DH pointed out they weren't legal (admittedly being scared to face even more points and fines) and fitted Osram nightbreakers, good buy. :afro:

I looked into self adjusters and washers, but Hella Twin's having projectors don't mean sh!t, they were designed for halogens, not HIDs, there is a big difference in projector units.


Chuff share that you greedy thingy! :grin:

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Re: HID and the law..
« Reply #59 on: 29 December 2009, 20:41 »
In fairness to Joe, the reflectors being painted would take away a lot of the main light, and also the fact his car is lower would also play a part, compared to your standard cars with standard suspension this would make the light notablly lower than standard.

Nope as you should really check / adjust beam height after lowering, what is the point of lights that do not light the road ahead.  :rolleyes:

Fair point  :grin: