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Offline Max Q

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #90 on: 13 July 2009, 01:08 »
Quote from: howlingmoon on 12 July 2009, 22:24
Well Jules, this is a place for discussing cars and not about social conditioning. You have
your definition of what constitutes polite and I have mine... So I will not continue on that issue.

All I am saying is, in my opinion I would wait a little longer before buying a car with the DSG. Yes, warranties are there for many reasons but it does not justify the fact there are still problems with the DSG in new cars even after 5 years or so being in the market as you so eloquently mentioned. Its one thing to have your trims rattle and another when your DSG is causing you to `head-bang` due to jerkiness. No new owner should feel that way in their new car regardless of warranty. I know many people loves the DSG, but as I said, its a subjective thing.

So dont take the issue so seriously and be less uptight. Relax, life at 23 is just the beginning... pace yourself...  :laugh:   

No one has a problem with you deciding that DSG is not for you. Horses for courses etc..Just say it's not for me, but don't try to invent problems that don't exist. Remember, you are talking to lots of members here who have been running the DSG box for years on their Mk5's, who likely know a thing or two about it's reliability.

There are no known issues with the DSG gearbox. It's as reliable as the manual. So deciding you are not willing to get a car with DSG because of reliability fears is completely groundless, and frankly bonkers.
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #91 on: 13 July 2009, 08:51 »
My Dear Max,

I am not trying to invent problems for the DSG. Far from it, I am just expressing an opinion and concern to the forum. The same as you are. So I am not sure what's your issue with me having mine?

HM
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #92 on: 13 July 2009, 09:39 »
Judging by the posts so far seems to be a definite Marmite option.

Personally I wouldn't want an auto box in a car like a GTI, surely some of the driving experience is lost and that sort of defeats the object in owning one. 

No matter how quick and slick the changes are an auto will never have the same control as a manual, also an auto is not able to anticipate gear changes (putting the car in the correct gear just before you need it). Yes, there is a manual mode but...

Just my opinion. 

Thankfully VW have given us all the choice.     :wink:

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #93 on: 13 July 2009, 11:19 »
Quote from: howlingmoon on 13 July 2009, 08:51
My Dear Max,

I am not trying to invent problems for the DSG. Far from it, I am just expressing an opinion and concern to the forum. The same as you are. So I am not sure what's your issue with me having mine?

HM

No issue at all with you having your opinion, just attempting to point out that it is irrational and groundless.
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #94 on: 13 July 2009, 13:49 »


No issue at all with you having your opinion, just attempting to point out that it is irrational and groundless.
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Ha ha ha I am not even going to dignify a response to this sort of one track mind.
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #95 on: 13 July 2009, 14:05 »
I agree with GolfTi, its two different feeling to driving a car. If you like an automatic and hassle free, get the DSG. If you want the thrill and exhiliration of feeling in control, get the manual.

I believe that more complicated a technology is, more things can go wrong with it. Of course I am not making a scientific statement that I regard the DSG will fail or is unreliable. I just feel so and I would want a solid discussion on the matter to appease my curiosity and what is VAG doing to ensure that its customers are satisfied whether its defective chips or components in the mechatronics  or what nots.

I guess thats why I joined this forum, since I wanted to have a lively discourse with what common people felt about the Golfs and in particular the Mk6s including the new GTI.

Cheers,

HM 
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #96 on: 13 July 2009, 16:05 »
I'd have no issues with buying DSG again, had it in the Scirocco but wouldn't pay the extra for it now, hence the MK6 manual. I just prefer the feel of the manual but did love the DSG. If it was a no cost option then i might be tempted but just wouldn't pay for it.

However I don't keep my cars for long, certainly not as long as warranty periods so it's irrelevant for me.  I did have an Audi A4 multitronic and had three gear boxes under warranty in a year.  Audi dealers call that gearbox 'multitragic' but one things for sure, DSG is a fantastic & innovative bit of kit but with more bits moving and two clutches etc, surely the more problems are possible to occur. High performance usually means high maintenance. Who's got a high mileage car with DSG? That could shed some light?

Nowadays though I bet a new manual gearbox in a GTI would cost the earth....
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Re: Manual or DSG?
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #98 on: 17 July 2009, 10:54 »
R32UK

Thanks - interesting stuff.

Anyone know of any problems with the manual gearboxes??
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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #99 on: 17 July 2009, 11:15 »
Here is the standard way of leaving manual drivers for dust...

Wait until they settle into 6th then floor it.
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