Manual or DSG?

[howlingmoon]

Yeah perhaps I have been inaccurate, I was refering to the 7 speed DSG and how it is being applied to the new mk6s since this is a forum for mk6s... Please see this link for issues with the DSGs... http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3968936

Since I believe the forum is for discussions, I am just making points for discussion and not to make absolute statements.

HM

[Jkctr]

99% of those are low mileage problems. No common long use issues.

The mk6 is not getting the 7speed? Its been created purely for lower engined models as it has a much lower torque threshold.

Have no problem with you making points, as long as there not as inaccurate as they keep being.

[R32UK]

I would say the jerkiness at roundabouts and when reversing are issues to consider. As is clutch slip. Although I know hurdy has had these issues and managed to get them resolved through a dsg software upgrade. Maybe these little issues have been ironed out... yet to be confirmed though i would say.

[howlingmoon]

99% of those are low mileage problems. No common long use issues.

The mk6 is not getting the 7speed? Its been created purely for lower engined models as it has a much lower torque threshold.

Have no problem with you making points, as long as there not as inaccurate as they keep being.

Hah! and short term problems is not a prelude to long term issues dear? And if you care to google the issues with DSGs, there are longer term problems surfacing. When I pointed out the problems with the DSG has not matured yet, I meant it takes more than 5 years to iron out all the kinks. It took more than 10 - 15 years of classic auto transmissions to become reliable as it is today. I am not saying DSG is bad. All I am saying it will take awhile before I would rely on it after the warranty ends. I aint forking Euro3k to replace the box after 5 - 6 years.

As to my inaccuracies, well I dont think other that the fact I meant to say its for the mk6, I have erred elsewhere... in any case, you should be polite and not be so sarcastic on open forums.

[howlingmoon]

DSG has been around since before 2003 iirc, thats 6 years and still no issues.

And from no issues to lots? Am I the only one not being accurate? ha ha ha We all make mistakes or make inaccuracies... I just want to thank you for pointing out mine...

[Jkctr]

There are not 'lots' of issues so im not inaccurate. The only ones are immediate warranty issues. The same as all other issues in a new car. No, short terms issues are not problems in the long term once they have been rectified....why do you think they offer warranties 

Oh the key word was 'open' so ill be as sarcastic as i like thanks, there are no rules that state i must be polite, just not offensive 

I would say the jerkiness at roundabouts and when reversing are issues to consider. As is clutch slip. Although I know hurdy has had these issues and managed to get them resolved through a dsg software upgrade. Maybe these little issues have been ironed out... yet to be confirmed though i would say.

Mine isnt jerky mate, in S it is but thats inevitable. Reversing is also perfectly fine, not sure what you mean? Clutch slip is to do with oil, hurdy is running over 300bhp mate so hardly even fair to mention, run the same through a manual clutch and its going to slip at some point as it was made for 230bhp by VW.

A DSG map does fix all the minor niggles VW hasnt though (higher rev limit, higher launch on R32's, holding gears longer in M and a few more)

[howlingmoon]

Well Jules, this is a place for discussing cars and not about social conditioning. You have
your definition of what constitutes polite and I have mine... So I will not continue on that issue.

All I am saying is, in my opinion I would wait a little longer before buying a car with the DSG. Yes, warranties are there for many reasons but it does not justify the fact there are still problems with the DSG in new cars even after 5 years or so being in the market as you so eloquently mentioned. Its one thing to have your trims rattle and another when your DSG is causing you to `head-bang` due to jerkiness. No new owner should feel that way in their new car regardless of warranty. I know many people loves the DSG, but as I said, its a subjective thing.

So dont take the issue so seriously and be less uptight. Relax, life at 23 is just the beginning... pace yourself...     

[Rolfe]

Has anybody here actually taken delivery of a Mk VI with DSG yet?  Interested to hear any first-hand experiences.

Rolfe.

[Mighty_G]

Has anybody here actually taken delivery of a Mk VI with DSG yet?  Interested to hear any first-hand experiences.

Rolfe.

yup.

Love it for general driving (which is 99% of the time),but like the guys say its missing a little something (being able to combine clutch, gears and accelerator) to do exactly what you want. But saying that I am a convert, in future I'd see DSG as an essential rather than an option.

[keelaw]

i drove a DSG yesterday.  as you'd expect, it felt very smooth and presented no problems at all.  made it really easy to drive.  kept the car very quiet as well.