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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #180 on: 31 August 2009, 12:56 »
It will drop down 3 gears almost instantly by tapping the paddle 3 times if the rpm allows. You certainly don't have to wait for each gear like you describe.

Well, it wasn't as instant as I'd have expected...probably a couple of seconds. Not what I was expecting based on driving other automated manuals (E-Gear, PDK, SMG etc)...I didn't imagine it, that's for sure.

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An argument can be made for whether the kickdown function should be available in manual or not. However, with a bit of experience you'll know where full throttle is and where the kickdown starts.

I don't doubt that for one minute...what's surprising is that it's there at all when in manual.

No matter. I tried it, went in with an open mind and really wanted to like it, and probably tried to trip it up where I could as I didn't want to buy the car then find out I didn't like it....what's surprising to me was quite how soon I disliked it - especially after really liking it on a 170 TDI.

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #181 on: 31 August 2009, 13:06 »
This thread could go on and on.

I had DSG in my scirocco and have manual in the GTI.  Both great but different, manual is for me for now but I can see the appeal of the DSG but unless you drive it around in manual all the time the manual box is more engaging for me.

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #182 on: 31 August 2009, 13:33 »
It will drop down 3 gears almost instantly by tapping the paddle 3 times if the rpm allows. You certainly don't have to wait for each gear like you describe.

Well, it wasn't as instant as I'd have expected...probably a couple of seconds. Not what I was expecting based on driving other automated manuals (E-Gear, PDK, SMG etc)...I didn't imagine it, that's for sure.

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An argument can be made for whether the kickdown function should be available in manual or not. However, with a bit of experience you'll know where full throttle is and where the kickdown starts.

I don't doubt that for one minute...what's surprising is that it's there at all when in manual.

But the kick down button is a manual function. It only operates when you hit it. You're talking as if the car decides when to drop down and it doesn't. It's no different than if you put your hand on a paddle and change down but you're using a foot instead.

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #183 on: 31 August 2009, 13:35 »
well i hope no one flames me for this! just putting in my thoughts and 2 cents!

in my humble opinion, both are good. i believe which one to chose if purely up to the buyer, of which, he may have various reasons for making the decision.

on my part, (not considering on how much the car cost here  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:, oh by which, if you do the currency exchange, you can buy 2 GTI's and crash test one there! haha)

i'm driving a manual car. a Honda Jazz, i've done a lot of things to that car. all extreme NA, to extreme Turbo charging it.
have seen and felt what it can do and where and what the limits are.  :sick:
a manual car is great fun though, but in my place, 60% of times, i get into a traffic jam, and trust me, using a 3 puck clutch is no fun in a traffic jam that can last about 1hr!  :angry:

for my upcoming GTI, i'll chose the DSG, because, 1st of all, its a new game plan for me.
2nd, looking at the traffic situation here, i'll probably live longer getting less angrier!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
3rd, looking at the specs that its faster than the manual, (don flame me ok! lol! i know it been debated tones of times), i'd like to give it a try! considering the fact that when i used to race, once in a while i'd miss shift!  :embarassed: :embarassed:

with the DSG, all you go is up, or down without miss shifting!

i'll miss the heel and toe for sure, but with the DSG i think i'll feel like an F1 driver!  :embarassed:  :laugh:  :grin:

i guess its all to preference and the driver's current situation! lol!  :wink:

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #184 on: 31 August 2009, 15:49 »
Did no one else notice that you cant actually use the paddles when going round a corner???  :huh: :sad:

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #185 on: 31 August 2009, 16:00 »
Did no one else notice that you cant actually use the paddles when going round a corner???  :huh: :sad:

Agreed,

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #186 on: 31 August 2009, 17:58 »
You can, its easier to use the gearstick though.

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #187 on: 31 August 2009, 19:06 »
Did no one else notice that you cant actually use the paddles when going round a corner???  :huh: :sad:

Agreed,


is that cos the paddles are fixed to the steering column?  shouldn't really be changing gears mid-corner though no?  (esp a sharp one where the paddles are further away)




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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #188 on: 31 August 2009, 19:27 »
Did no one else notice that you cant actually use the paddles when going round a corner???  :huh: :sad:

Agreed,


is that cos the paddles are fixed to the steering column?  shouldn't really be changing gears mid-corner though no?  (esp a sharp one where the paddles are further away)






Yeah they are fixed. Shouldn't really be.. but for road use its sometimes required. On a track its obviously different, which is why I stand by my original statement that dsg would be great for track use (if you dont know how to drive  :tongue:). :evil:

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Re: Manual or DSG?
« Reply #189 on: 31 August 2009, 23:36 »
It will drop down 3 gears almost instantly by tapping the paddle 3 times if the rpm allows. You certainly don't have to wait for each gear like you describe.

Well, it wasn't as instant as I'd have expected...probably a couple of seconds. Not what I was expecting based on driving other automated manuals (E-Gear, PDK, SMG etc)...I didn't imagine it, that's for sure.


Well I don't know what rpm you were at and what gears you were attempting to flick through, but you can take it from me, a DSG owner for 2 years, that the car will drop gears as fast as you can hit the paddles. I just tried it this evening on my way home from work.
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