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Offline danny_p

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #70 on: 02 July 2009, 01:30 »
pritty much
all the VW's have gone bar 1.

Offline Mikester

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #71 on: 02 July 2009, 11:20 »
Im with wayne on this one.....

Fed up of the hate.

Besides, the 8v is the best.....sooo much torque ;)

Offline Adam

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #72 on: 02 July 2009, 11:54 »
Why are we here? Because we have a passion for out motors and when people slag them off its uncalled for. Its like little kids sayin my toy is better than yours.......

This shit is starting to piss me off.

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #73 on: 02 July 2009, 12:00 »

Offline Horney

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #74 on: 02 July 2009, 12:02 »
Boo hoo. Stop crying over the haterz! This is getting like edition on here!

The VR6 is better than the valaver, the valver is better than the 8v. It's why they were priced differently. If you get upset by people bashing your car then get off the thread and get a life. THose that are dissing other cars, I'm sure your thingy will grow eventually, if not you may have a career in niche porn.

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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #75 on: 02 July 2009, 12:30 »
The vr6 is actually a very compact engine, its not as heavy as people think. Its alot lighter than a genuine V6.

Spot on, when I worked at TSR, I worked on a VR6 lump and the bare block is not much heavier than a 8V or 16V.

This may be true...
But add the crank, pistons and head and the VR6 is a lot heavier.
Add to the fact that it sits slanted forward, carrying a lot of weight high up and you end up with terminal understeer!

The 16v being lighter, and sitting slanted back carries it's weight behind the drive line...not in front, as the VR6 does.
The laws of physics still apply...even to a VR6.


16vs are also lower geared...so actual back road performance is pretty similar...with 16vs having a slight handling edge (all relative, I know. Relative to a hippo wallowing in the mud!)

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Offline Wayne

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #76 on: 02 July 2009, 12:41 »
The vr6 is actually a very compact engine, its not as heavy as people think. Its alot lighter than a genuine V6.

Spot on, when I worked at TSR, I worked on a VR6 lump and the bare block is not much heavier than a 8V or 16V.

This may be true...
But add the crank, pistons and head and the VR6 is a lot heavier.
Add to the fact that it sits slanted forward, carrying a lot of weight high up and you end up with terminal understeer!

The 16v being lighter, and sitting slanted back carries it's weight behind the drive line...not in front, as the VR6 does.
The laws of physics still apply...even to a VR6.


16vs are also lower geared...so actual back road performance is pretty similar...with 16vs having a slight handling edge (all relative, I know. Relative to a hippo wallowing in the mud!)

As I said in an earlier post the total weight difference is only around 60kg's plus 175lbs ft of torque in place of only around 140lbs of a 16V plus you don't need 4k revs on the clock before it starts to come on power.

Offline Mikester

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #77 on: 02 July 2009, 12:42 »
So basically. The best option is an 8v.

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Offline DubSociety

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #78 on: 02 July 2009, 13:02 »
To put it simply.

Buy what you can afford mate. Now that can be a Lambo' ... or a poxy 1.2 Corsa

Your never going to get a straight answer on this forum ...

Offline Petec82

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Re: keep 16v or buy vr6
« Reply #79 on: 02 July 2009, 13:06 »
To put it simply.

Buy what you can afford mate. Now that can be a Lambo' ... or a poxy 1.2 Corsa

Your never going to get a straight answer on this forum ...
:grin: spot on

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