Mk2 16v Power steering hose woes

[Wayne]

i thought it sounded funny them not doing pas hoses or fuel hoses.

i mean they do gurt big hydralic lines i'm sure a gurt big hydralic line failing can have far more issues concirning the HSE than a dinky pas hose  it's not like it stops you steering or anything, tho big hydralic lines have large rams attached to bih heavy swinging things

Hydraulics have anti drop or burst valves so if a pipe bursts the ram will only drop a small amount, it is very rare that any hydraulic pipe failure will result or cause an accident due to the safety items built in, I work with 52 ton excavators on a day to day basis and have seen a pipe burst with no issues, brake or steering pipe failure could on the other hand cause an accident or loss of control that is why Hse regs don't allow or should not let them be made, I am not saying you cannot get it made by a hose company but they should not and if they do it outside of Hse regs.

[danny_p]

pas hose poping will have no more effect than the pas belt snaping the steering will go heavy.   anyway if a hose company osn't allowed to make power steering hoses  who is ?

[Neo Badness]

aye rack is physically the same, though the 16v racks supposed to be quicker than the 8v ones. certainly a diff party # on etka!  either way the important thing is yes 8v and 16v pipes will swap over all day long without problems.

That's good news just got to get it from Norwich to Dundee now...Anyone suggest a good/reliable courier?

I thought that it was only different speed of rack between manual and power, power being quicker @ 3.1 vs 3.6 lock to lock
 I may be wrong but reasonably sure I read that somewhere.

[danny_p]

pas rack quicker than manual

[Neo Badness]

pas rack quicker than manual

Whey!!

Danny_P has spoken, good enough for me.

All that time spent geeking out hasn't been wasted then...

Anyone know what the part number is for the bracket that mounts the power steering pump to the block? Also if there is anywhere I can lay my hands on one?

[rubjonny]

yeah it goes in this order of quickness
manual (all models same)
pas
16v/g60 pas

if what they say about 16v pas rack bein quicker than normal pas is true. cant see any other reason for part numbers to be different tho

which bracket are you after in particular?

[Neo Badness]

yeah it goes in this order of quickness
manual (all models same)
pas
16v/g60 pas

if what they say about 16v pas rack bein quicker than normal pas is true. cant see any other reason for part numbers to be different tho

which bracket are you after in particular?

Interesting, I've sourced an 8v rack as I'm in a pinch, but doubt I'll notice a difference? And must be better than non assisted broken power steering?

I'm after the bracket that mounts the power steering pump to the block as the prevoius bellend who removed system copulated it...

So basically a power steering pump bracket to fit KR...

[rubjonny]

I doubt its going to be a massive difference, but ive only driven cars with manual and 16v pas so couldnt say from personal experience! all i know is the 16v pas is great, feels just like manual steerring when you're on the move, you only notice the assistance when parking.
in a pinch tho i wouldnt have a problem fitting an 8v rack if its a known good one

the bracket thats bolted to the pump is:
027 145 521 - 27.72+VAT

[danny_p]

i don't think there is much of a differance between them.  the syncro proably has an 8v rack in it and i don't find myself thinking it would be better with a 16v one when trying to give it the large and nasty.

the rack is defantly one of those things vw got very right.   and one of the few hatches i prefer to drive fast with pas,  when moveing it feels liek a manual rack as rj said    but hell you can pile the lock on fast when the arse end starts getting away from you.  there have been a couple of intresting moments that chould very easly have been painfull if had a manual rack

[Diamond Hell]

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