The car scrap scheme and me

[Len]

I cant stand this Government but they didnt cause the current mess! Was those greedy Bankers!
Plus a few fraudsters in the States and some silly Icelandic bankers etc. etc.

IMO I think this scheme will be bad for us owners of older cars!

[nige_s]

I wasn't taking it personally Stronz so chill Rambo.  But those sh*tters that are usually a smokey old Mondeo filled with 4 kids on the back seat with no seatbelts on and a pair of fat parents smoking in the front ain't going to trade in their chariot for a £15k new car even with £2k cash back.  They'll wait till that £15k car is at least 15 years old and has had Dodgy Dave at the local bodyshop(driveway repair station) weld it back together after a write off and flog it for a shag with his dirty daughter and 100 fags.

[Len]

Rather jaundiced view of todays society there! 

[nige_s]

Every town and village have them do they not?  Hopefully its just a minority.

[Stronz]

Lol,

No its cool - nothing taken personally!

You're right though, there always has been and will be a demand for low cost, old cars by the less fortunate members of society.

[monkeyalan]

You're right though, there always has been and will be a demand for low cost, old cars by the less fortunate members of society.

or those not prepared to get into debt up to thier eyeballs.

[tony_ack]

I guess the other angle I was coming from, and what some on here have also mentioned is that if you are going to buy a new car anyway (and there are some people who will always buy a new car!), do you:

1) go to the dealer and pay the full (or negotiated) price
2) buy a secondhand car for £300, scrap it, and claim a £2000 discount on the new car?

Also, not everyone who has a sub-£2000 10+ year old car is necessarily poor! My partner's parents last year sold their R reg freelander and bought a brand new Pug 207 estate. My partner has a 12 year old 306 which is in almost mint condition, but we could probably afford to get a new one if we wanted.

Whilst it is not the cleverest idea to get a car on finance right now, some (many) people will still do it! My sister is a case in point. She has my old car - a 1998 Peugeot 306 Meridian TD. It's in good nick, no rust, runs well, is economical and comes with loads of extras like alloys, leccy windows and air con. She has been going on about getting 'her new Ka' for ages, and will probably eventually get one on finance despite our objections. If she sold the pug, she would get £1000 tops second hand. But if she scraps it - a perfectly good, reliable car, the government will put almost a third towards an new entry level Ka.

In Germany, the scheme has boosted the low-mid end of the new car market considerably, but the top end hasn't seen any significant sales rise. I would expect to see a lot more new small-engined, economical city cars on our roads soon - perhaps this is the effect the government intended?

[sharpie]

as for the discount you would actually get, £1000 is provided by the govt, £1000 by the industry. so theoretically you could get £1000 off by negiotating anyway without buying a new car so the added value by the govt is £1000, not £2000.

[nige_s]

If its purely from an emissions point of view surely the discount should be only available on low CO2 vehicles?  In theory I could scrap my Gti and buy something excessively more impacting on the environment, Porsche Cayenne for instance.  Suppose we don't know the full details yet.

[mr self destruct]

If its purely from an emissions point of view surely the discount should be only available on low CO2 vehicles?  In theory I could scrap my Gti and buy something excessively more impacting on the environment, Porsche Cayenne for instance.  Suppose we don't know the full details yet.

The governmant have not said its for any other reason than to kick start the UK car industry, no safety or environmental concerns at all.
So in that case, personally I think the discount should only apply to UK manufactured cars.

But I work for Jaguar, I'm biased!