The car scrap scheme and me

[twistedblack69]

This just seems to be another version of the use it-break it-throw it away system we're all living in. Using cheap asian copies that don't last, but they're so cheap, that they're just getting binned rather than fixed and re-used. I mean...like Speedy said, cars are getting scrapped with 40k on the clock...seriously, mine has 180k on the clock, and it's still fine (well...fine to me  ) I suppose the people that are really gonna benefit from this will be new drivers, who have picked up a banger as their first car, and then a year later they are able to upgrade considerably, but again, these bangers will then be taken off the road, and 5-10 years down the line, there are gonna be no cheap old cars for the new drivers, demand will drop, the resale price of newer cars will drop, and it'll screw up the economy once again

[Adam]

Just been out to ask about this and the response is the same. "The government are still in talks with manufacturers on this and we don't know if we are even doing it yet"

Just another thing the government f**ked up on.

Also you need to be the owner of the car on the V5 for the last year.

[twistedblack69]

Just been out to ask about this and the response is the same. "The government are still in talks with manufacturers on this and we don't know if we are even doing it yet"

Just seen a Citroen advert in which it said "£X,000 or £X,000 if you're car is eligible for the £2,000 scrap scheme" or something along those lines

[kittie]

Won't make the blindest bit of difference to most people I wouldn't have thought, people with old cars have them because they like them or because they don't have the money for a new car - 2k off a brand spanker is sod all really.

If I wanted to upgrade our mondy (which is 10) I'd sell it (could get nearly 2k anyway) and buy something a couple of years old that'd be well cheaper and wouldn't depreciate as much as a brand spanker. No brainer to me!

I think the goverment should stop giving money to private companies and use it for something that would potentially benefit everyone, not just people who are well off enough to buy a new car already. If it's about climate change then why not reinstate some of the railways that have been squandered in the past to help people out of their cars, or plant trees for f**ks sake!

Plus all the scrappage and manufacturing of new cars would cause damage to the environment anyway. It's all a big sham to give taxpayers money to private companies (again!)

[DanoGTI]

Of course, the other little tickler that the Government haven't exactly shouted from the rooftops is the little matter of car tax.

Anything pre-2001 (including my 98 S4 ) is cheap car tax......

Sooooo, you get your £2K "discount" but you'll also then be subject to the heightened car tax

Crafty.

Still I'll be interested tomorrow, as I'm going to look at a GTI at a dealers - will report back as to how this budget has affected the prices.....

Dan

[twistedblack69]

Anything pre-2001 (including my 98 S4 ) is cheap car tax......

As opposed to what?? I'm paying £185 for my mk2, don't really see that as cheap...

[Agreeable Slick]

Of course, the other little tickler that the Government haven't exactly shouted from the rooftops is the little matter of car tax.

Anything pre-2001 (including my 98 S4 ) is cheap car tax......

Sooooo, you get your £2K "discount" but you'll also then be subject to the heightened car tax

Crafty.

Still I'll be interested tomorrow, as I'm going to look at a GTI at a dealers - will report back as to how this budget has affected the prices.....

Dan

In all honesty, if you are that bothered with getting money off vs the cost of car tax, then the cars you are looking at are either sports cars, or big engined gas monsters, which deserved to be taxed.

Diesels and more the type of car that the general public person would be able to afford, come into the C-E category which is starting at £135 a year.

So, if you are that worried about the car tax bracket then you shouldn't be looking at larger cars, by the same token, if you can afford a larger (higher tax bracket) car, money would be the least of your worries. 

[DanoGTI]

Might have helped if I explained this a bit further

OK - £185 now.

P/ex/Scrap - get your £1/2K discount

Get your new car and oh......

Car tax has gone up

for example -

upgrade to a Focus ST and "BANG" - it goes up to £245 per year

The CO2 car tax calculator is HERE

Look how much your next "dream" car could cost you

So, the Government gets even more money.....

DAn

[DanoGTI]

Personally, I'm not bothered about it at all, but some people will be.

Dan

In all honesty, if you are that bothered with getting money off vs the cost of car tax, then the cars you are looking at are either sports cars, or big engined gas monsters, which deserved to be taxed.

Diesels and more the type of car that the general public person would be able to afford, come into the C-E category which is starting at £135 a year.

So, if you are that worried about the car tax bracket then you shouldn't be looking at larger cars, by the same token, if you can afford a larger (higher tax bracket) car, money would be the least of your worries. 

[Agreeable Slick]

but the whole taxing scheme was brought in at the beginning of last year, so it's not like it's a new thing,

An actual government site price list: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

Like i said, if you can afford to buy a brand spanking new "Focus ST" then tax is not going to be an issue.