Author Topic: Anyone holding out for the Mk8 Golf GTI?  (Read 12181 times)

Offline Daz Auto

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Re: Anyone holding out for the Mk8 Golf GTI?
« Reply #30 on: 12 July 2015, 21:17 »
I think my Dad's GTD was the first one that arrived in the UK and posted on this forum - he picked it up July 1st.

...MK7, that car was a huge jump in tech, equipment  and refinement over the MK5/6, and the MK6 was no great improvement over the MK5 - slightly different styling and marginal output improvements on some of the engines but essentially the same car.

...there have been very few true technological improvements made to fuel economy in the last 5 years - stop-start gains for mpg have been massively overstated because the test cycle output can be massively affected by it, but real world gains are tiny...

I'd likely be more peeved I bought a MK6 just before the MK7 came out, rather than buying a MK7 just before the MK8 came out.
A few months ago, I had the Mk7 out for a weekend test drive. It was silver the same as my car. Most visitors didn't even realise it was a different car to my Mk6. All they saw was another silver Golf. It even had a different number of doors. Not sure whether that says more about the visitors or the style changes to the Mk7. I guess if you are not really into your cars the Mk7 is just another Golf.

On paper the new GTD is a lot more economical than the old one. However, in real world driving people are saying that the Mk7 does not seem to get anywhere near the manufacturer claimed mpg figures. We have also noticed this with our new A3 and it has 25k miles on it now.

I read that there will be a new European fuel economy test introduced in 2020. This will test real world mpg figures more accurately. So I am hoping that the Mk8 cars will see a significant real world jump in miles per gallon. That would peeve me if I bought a Mk7 just before Mk8 with better smiles per gallon.

For a test drive we decided to take the Mk7 GTD over our local mountain to the coast to get lunch. It is a lovely scenic run. The road is wide with white lines down the middle. My wife immediately noted how much firmer the suspension is than my old Mk6 with the suspension set to comfort and 17 inch Goodyear tyres. By the time we arrived for lunch she felt travel sick. Not sure what that says about the Mk7 GTD suspension or my driving :undecided: She hated the comfort. I loved the handling. :evil: Especially liked the progressive steering in tight corners. I was made go home another road, even though I promised to go slower. Frankly, I was disappointed. Having a Mk6, I expected the Mk7 to be more comfortable. Though it definitely handles better if you only drive on good roads or race tracks. When we arrived home, I actually checked the tyre pressures and had a look to see if the transport pucks had been removed out of the suspension. All 4 tyres were under-inflated at 32 psi.

I have read good things about the new DCC adjustable suspension. 

No doubt the Mk7 is a better car. Just not that much better that I have to have one now. Having a Mk7 for a weekend has actually made me less peeved :wink:



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Re: Anyone holding out for the Mk8 Golf GTI?
« Reply #31 on: 12 July 2015, 21:48 »
Daz: Not sure what innovations you'd be expecting on the MK8 to see appreciable gains in mpg after the introduction of an EU economy testing regime that is more realistic - it's likely to be going the other way, that quoted 67mpg will likely become an official 55mpg if the MK8 isn't genuinely using 20% less fuel to do what the current engine does now.

How could the MK8 become so much more efficient? We haven't seen any massive innovations in TDI technology in years that has affected mpg. The change from PD to CR saw refinement and linear power delivery come on a fair bit, but real life mpg didn't appreciably change. Real life effects of stop-start, I saw maybe an extra 1mpg, the system is definitely saving fuel when you would've otherwise be idling, but my static time on my commute was next to nowt and 1/3 of the time it could've turned the engine off, DPF regen considerations kept it going.

I think we'd need to see at least a 10% weight reduction (the MK7 saw a 2% weight loss for the higher up models that didn't lose the multilink rear suspension that some of the lesser models (<120PS) lost). How will the MK8 lose another 140Kg? That'll only be half the story - there's talk of 10 speed DSGs, that'll help, maybe we'll see the other 10% off that.

If the new EU test is a real representation of real life driving, the MK8 GTD's use of fuel would have to be so much better than it is now, just to retain it's "67mpg combined" tag.
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Re: Anyone holding out for the Mk8 Golf GTI?
« Reply #32 on: 12 July 2015, 22:07 »
Daz: Not sure what innovations you'd be expecting on the MK8 to see appreciable gains in mpg after the introduction of an EU economy testing regime that is more realistic - it's likely to be going the other way...
True. My brother's Mk4 TDI, my wife's old Mk5 TDI, her new A3 TDI and my Mk6 GTD all have similar fuel consumption figures of 50-60mpg.

Rightly or wrongly, I feel there will just be more emphasis on fuel economy with the next generation. Happy to wait and see.

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