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Title: golf bhp?
Post by: avengedslayer on 13 November 2008, 20:09
jus curious to know what my bhp is? as my mate recons i have 125 bhp! i drive 8v gti agg engine! its BOG standard too!
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Post by: snifferdog on 13 November 2008, 20:11
115 mate,pathetic isnt it! 16v has 150 and the vr6 is about 174 i think!
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Post by: avengedslayer on 13 November 2008, 20:15
oh reet yea that does suck lol

i suppose i could get it to 125 with a few engine mods?

wat am i cappable of getting?
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Post by: azzrobz on 13 November 2008, 23:36
NOT MUCH :wink:
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 14 November 2008, 08:46
115 mate,pathetic isnt it! 16v has 150 and the vr6 is about 174 i think!

The valver isn't even 150bhp stock, VW just took it upon themselves to round up from 147 or something!  :undecided:


Getting an extra 10 horses isn't hard, chances are your not even pushing 115bhp anymore though!

First of all full service, belts, oil, filters, ignition etc. Then a 'performance' exhaust, combined with your choice of cold air induction kits, not just banging on a cone filter! That might help get you a bit closer to what you're after. :afro:
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Post by: Wayne on 14 November 2008, 08:50
115 mate,pathetic isnt it! 16v has 150 and the vr6 is about 174 i think!

The valver isn't even 150bhp stock, VW just took it upon themselves to round up from 147 or something!  :undecided:


Getting an extra 10 horses isn't hard, chances are your not even pushing 115bhp anymore though!

First of all full service, belts, oil, filters, ignition etc. Then a 'performance' exhaust, combined with your choice of cold air induction kits, not just banging on a cone filter! That might help get you a bit closer to what you're after. :afro:

Most people on ed38 say the 16V was limited to 147 so as to not hurt sales of the VR6 and that you can get 175bhp out of them easily, I myself don't think so as the 16v was aimed at a different market.
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Post by: caouzhou on 14 November 2008, 09:30
hope helps

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/caouzhou/vento/golfmk3engine.png)
Title: Re: golf bhp?
Post by: eightyeightmph on 14 November 2008, 09:41
115 mate,pathetic isnt it! 16v has 150 and the vr6 is about 174 i think!

The valver isn't even 150bhp stock, VW just took it upon themselves to round up from 147 or something!  :undecided:


Getting an extra 10 horses isn't hard, chances are your not even pushing 115bhp anymore though!

First of all full service, belts, oil, filters, ignition etc. Then a 'performance' exhaust, combined with your choice of cold air induction kits, not just banging on a cone filter! That might help get you a bit closer to what you're after. :afro:

Most people on ed38 say the 16V was limited to 147 so as to not hurt sales of the VR6 and that you can get 175bhp out of them easily, I myself don't think so as the 16v was aimed at a different market.

I heard similar, wil get mine remapped one day! :rolleyes:
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Post by: beccasmk3gti on 14 November 2008, 20:10
i got 176bhp as standard on my vr6 thats with 150k on the clocks in the summer on the rolling road. torque was down only got 225nm instead of 235nm
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Post by: don_231 on 15 November 2008, 22:50
jus curious to know what my bhp is? as my mate recons i have 125 bhp! i drive 8v gti agg engine! its BOG standard too!

you think thats bad mate..... try owning a 1.9 diesel,


67 horses straight from the factory :(
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Post by: Rmachines on 15 November 2008, 23:27
Get a TDI, I get 89BHP and  210NM of torque  :wink:  But still   :sick: its always gunna be a diesel  :laugh:
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Post by: Josho on 16 November 2008, 00:40
Why does the 1.6 have more HP and a quicker 0-60?
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Post by: Ads on 18 November 2008, 19:26
My 16v ABF is only remaped and runs 174 bhp
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 19 November 2008, 09:08
My 16v ABF is only remaped and runs 174 bhp

How much was the remap? :huh:
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Post by: MK3GTI_16Valve on 19 November 2008, 10:39
24 bhp from a remap? :undecided:
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 19 November 2008, 11:39
24 bhp from a remap? :undecided:

26 bhp actually, & that sounds pretty good, opens the 16v upto what it's comfortable/should of been! :)
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Post by: MK3GTI_16Valve on 19 November 2008, 12:10
Id like to believe it but not convinced. If you can remap a bog std 16V to 174bhp then I'm sure everyone here with a 16V would. Your in Vr bhp territory then. Anybody else find this hard to believe or am i just been naive? What company did the remap for you / cost because If what your saying is fact then I'm sure they would get an awful lot of business from this forum alone
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Post by: green-blood on 19 November 2008, 12:17
Id like to believe it but not convinced. If you can remap a bog std 16V to 174bhp then I'm sure everyone here with a 16V would. Your in Vr bhp territory then. Anybody else find this hard to believe or am i just been naive? What company did the remap for you / cost because If what your saying is fact then I'm sure they would get an awful lot of business from this forum alone

I'm in agreement... nearly 20% more power without any induction/exhaust/head work!!!
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Post by: boneybradley on 19 November 2008, 12:20
I remember len's car on the rolling road giving about 170bhp....... and then a few weeks later else where giving nearer 155bhp
(there really is huge differences on these rolling roads....and I'm sure alot of places set them to show better power!)
Unless my 8v really does have 136bhp!! :evil: (very very very very very unlikely!)
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Post by: Wayne on 19 November 2008, 12:38
Sorry no remap will give you 24/26bhp.
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 19 November 2008, 14:09
I'm only going on what I've read here, but isn't the valver restricted because it was capable of giving similar Bhp to the VR?

Let's be honest, the VR has a pretty poor output for that size engine! :smiley:
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Post by: Horney on 19 November 2008, 14:16
Pretty sure the ABF was restricted by use of tame cams and restrictive inlet. You can't just turn off 12% of the power of an engine via the ECU and still get it to run right and be fuel efficient.

Nick
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Post by: boneybradley on 19 November 2008, 14:17
As said but also all engines are restricted in some way to make emmisions better, so the engine lasts longer and to increase mpg!!
the 16v possibly can give 175bhp by simply adjusting the electronics and "simple" parts but 148 is about right for the Era (the rival's rs2000 had 150, astra gsi had 150 too)
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Post by: Wayne on 19 November 2008, 14:31
I'm only going on what I've read here, but isn't the valver restricted because it was capable of giving similar Bhp to the VR?

Let's be honest, the VR has a pretty poor output for that size engine! :smiley:

I have read that many times and I don't believe it, the VR6 was aimed at different market, as bb said 150 was about right for the time it was on sale.
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Post by: davero on 19 November 2008, 15:23
Was lead the beleive that a remap on a 16v was good for about 6bhp. This was from a local specialist
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 19 November 2008, 16:33
Was lead the beleive that a remap on a 16v was good for about 6bhp. This was from a local specialist

Only 6 Bhp?? That's nothing? Why do people bother? :huh:
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 19 November 2008, 16:44
Was lead the beleive that a remap on a 16v was good for about 6bhp. This was from a local specialist

That sounds about right, you aren't going get big increases remapping an NA engine.
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Post by: MK3GTI_16Valve on 19 November 2008, 17:10
6 bhp to me sounds right aswell. Gains of 26 bhp with a std turbo engine no problem but our 16v's no chance. If only it could be done :smiley:. I'm sure R-tech would back that up
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Post by: beccasmk3gti on 19 November 2008, 19:17
bhp gains will be low on a n/a car but its the amount of mappable things you can do ie setting the torque where you want on the power band etc. that appels from a remap
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Post by: Ads on 19 November 2008, 19:35
Hey.

I read my printout completly wrong.

The car went in as 148.4bhp and after a livemap was 165.1.

I understand some rollers are different but the gain was noticeable!

Believe it or not, as long as i noticed it thats all what counts!
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Post by: whit on 19 November 2008, 19:59
that sucks.......the AGG is slower than the 2E/ADY!!!! :rolleyes:

anyone know why??? :laugh:
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Post by: Wayne on 19 November 2008, 20:18
that sucks.......the AGG is slower than the 2E/ADY!!!! :rolleyes:

anyone know why??? :laugh:

I think the ADY has a crossflow head.
Title: Re: golf bhp?
Post by: boneybradley on 19 November 2008, 20:47
dont rely on any performance figures as eahc engine delivers its power different...but its more likely the 2e is the fastest with it having bosch injection ,then the ady as it has a higher compression ratio and thanks to emmsion rules the agg crawls behind  :grin: