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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: illyun on 11 November 2008, 11:03
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I'm getting a bit embarrassed because I keep getting asked when I'm getting my car remapped - and I've been banging on about getting one but never get round to it. Instead, I'm a Mk2 GTI whore and can't keep away from them :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: - just bought a mint 74k mile big bumper 8v Mk2 GTI for £1800 after gagging for one for the past 12 months as I sold my Oak Green 16v a year ago. It got me thinking what that £1800 could have done for my neglected E30 :rolleyes: Hurdy asked me a couple of days ago and I gave a perfectly reasonable reason why I am waiting until later this month, but I can't be asked to wait any more so if you guys can point me in the right direction, I'll get it done this Saturday and booked the car in for a service on Friday. I am currently in Birmingham as my wife had a cesarean operation 2 weeks ago and is recovering at the in-laws - it was a baby boy by the way.
So getting to the point of this post....
Can anyone recommend a garage that could do the job on a Saturday within a 140 mile radius of Birmingham - obviously the closer the better. The place would have to have a rolling road too. Although I initially wanted to go for an Oettinger remap drawn to Oettinger’s long record, I’m a bit suspicious that its just a marketing exercise and that the Oettinger map is really the APR map rebranded. So I am going to opt for a Revo remap and DV install (unless anyone can find compelling reasons to opt for another vendor) as many people here have it without any issues (apart from Hurdy :rolleyes: :laugh: :wink:) and because Revo have a much larger base in the UK than anyone else.
Just some other details, my car is a DSG and I want a Stage 1 remap with a Select or Select Plus switch (still not decided which one). Also, are all garages the same price or can I get the software cheaper elsewhere? I know about the Revo groupbuy on this board but think I just missed it :cry: I could have saved £££'s if I had done it at GTI International but then no rolling road - I want the tuner to make sure the remap is calibrated correctly using a rolling road rather than just flash, bang and here you go. :evil: :evil:
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http://www.revotechnik.com/locateDealer/ukDealers.aspx
should help lol
how aboout Revo HQ in Northamptonshire?? Not sure if they got a RR though :undecided:
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Thanks Rhyso... I have looked there and might give them a call and ask about the rolling road. I am considering JKM in Portsmouth - or Awesome in Manchester, as they have received good press on this forum.
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Thanks Rhyso... I have looked there and might give them a call and ask about the rolling road. I am considering JKM in Portsmouth - or Awesome in Manchester, as they have received good press on this forum.
yep you can't fault either of those outfits either :smiley:
I've found JKM very helpful with my enquiries - just a shame they're so bloody far away!!
would have thought Revo HQ would have an RR for developement and testing :undecided:
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awesome are APR agents, id probs go down to jkm as the have a "holy" DD RR that many members on here would put their lives on being correct over any other RR :wink:
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Hi illyun, congrats on the new arrival of your son! Take a look at this thread and then maybe speak with greenouse as to where he got his Bluefin from. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=93884.80
His results speak for themselves and the RR he used is to see the results is in Brum too. :cool:
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Hi illyun, congrats on the new arrival of your son!
Thanks
Take a look at this thread and then maybe speak with greenouse as to where he got his Bluefin from. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=93884.80
His results speak for themselves and the RR he used is to see the results is in Brum too. :cool:
No Thanks :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
TT would never forgive me after his repeated warnings about Bluefin :lipsrsealed: (most of which I don't understand from a technical point of view :embarassed:)
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Hi Illyun, good to hear you are finally starting down the modding route :cool:
Even better is the news of a bouncing baby boy. Hope both littlun and SWMBO are doing well :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
I'd have to agree about going down to JKM as they do sound like a very good set-up. They would probably do the car on Saturday, but I'd get in touch sooner rather than later if you haven't already sourced the Forge DV :wink:
It would be good to see what the car does on the RR both before and after it's been done :cool:
Good luck :smiley:
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Hi illyun, congrats on the new arrival of your son!
Thanks
Take a look at this thread and then maybe speak with greenouse as to where he got his Bluefin from. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=93884.80
His results speak for themselves and the RR he used is to see the results is in Brum too. :cool:
No Thanks :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
TT would never forgive me after his repeated warnings about Bluefin :lipsrsealed: (most of which I don't understand from a technical point of view :embarassed:)
Haha, fair enough! :wink:
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I was going to suggest Superchips HQ in Milton Keynes.......... :huh: But maybe I won't now :grin: :grin: Let's not go down that road again eh :laugh:
Congratulations on your new arrival Illyun :afro:
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Hi Illyun, good to hear you are finally starting down the modding route :cool:
Its all your fault - your recent comments were the last straw :grin: :grin: :grin:
I'm sure this site has cost a lot of us a lot of money :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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I was going to suggest Superchips HQ in Milton Keynes.......... :huh: But maybe I won't now :grin: :grin: Let's not go down that road again eh :laugh:
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Congratulations on your new arrival Illyun :afro:
Thanks :smiley:
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Hi Illyun, good to hear you are finally starting down the modding route :cool:
Its all your fault - your recent comments were the last straw :grin: :grin: :grin:
I'm sure this site has cost a lot of us a lot of money :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Im with you on that one Illyun :grin: :evil:
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first off congrats illyun on the new arrival , youre a lucky man :cool:
hope all are doing well.
As far as remaps go
APR / REVO / GIAC / Superchips / Custom Code
seem popular.
Aftermarket service
Ability to tweak (REVO select switch settings)
Cruise control (APR use this for map switch)
Switchability to stock (or stock like mode)
etc
If you want a Sat you are going to have to book a couple of weeks in advance I reckon.
And ask for before and after RR graphs!
From 'history' fact or not , I believe the first gen APR ED30 map was Oettinger, but then they mapped Gaz's car , so its now APR's work fully.
Power wise I dont see any diff between APR and REVO tbh
I have a manual ED30 , but if I had DSG I reckon given the torque issue I would seriously consider Hurdys Custom Code remap , which would allow them to reduce the 'hit' at low rpm and possibly protect your clutch plates.
I Know vtec has had no problems but if it was my DSG ED30 , it would be worth thinking about , whereas on a manual I wouldnt be so bothered.
just imho of course
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Thanks for that john_o . I spoke to Keith at JKM - mentioned RRobin (in a positive light of course) - and opted for a sensible start with a Revo Stage 1, Select Plus switch and DV fitted with rolling reads before and after. I was very tempted to go the whole hog and get the Miltek Sports, Revo Stage 2 and Carbonio intake but Keith sort of talked me out of it! I don't think I'll wait too long to get them fitted if I am still in the UK next year. I mentioned the DSG issue to Keith but JKM have seen many DSG mapped cars with no issues.
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Firstly, illyun - BIG CONGRATS TO YOU AND YOUR LADY!!!! - Is he your firstborn? You must be feeling on Cloud Nine!
You'll be in good hands if you're going with JKM - They treat your car as if it was one of theirs and they have a lot of experience with the 2.0T FSI. They are also very honest and Keith suggesting you start off with Stage1 before jumping on Stage2 is sensible - It allows you and them to see how your individual car performs and what you want from your car.
:afro:
Btw, I'm running Revo2 with very healthy torque but 'only' about 240 bhp (on the dyno) but that's because I've got my settings turned down a bit rather than at max, especially my boost. I have the Carbonio but to get more out of the Stage2 I would be best to change it to a 'piped' intake.
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Thanks Robin. It was your glowing references to JKM that sent me their way. It was them or Awesome GTI. The baby's our second. The first one was a girl so I had to add a boy to the collection. As for how I'm feeling -shattered tbh :grin: :grin: :grin: My first one never wanted to sleep and this one just cries all the time. In the hospital, he was keeping all the other babies awake.
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Cograts on you new arrival pal :smiley:
Don't think you can go wrong with Apr or Revo
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You'll not go worng with JKM and Keith's advice.
If he's not told you already, make sure you have some good fuel in the tank a few days before you have the map done.
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You'll not go worng with JKM and Keith's advice.
If he's not told you already, make sure you have some good fuel in the tank a few days before you have the map done.
Thanks for that. The only fuel that ever goes into the car is Shell V-Power :evil: :evil:
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I'm a bit of an all or nothing type of person and now that I have decided on a remap I'm thinking why not just get the Milltek exhaust done at the same time... its going to go on at some point anyway when I get Revo Stage 2 done although that won't happen until I get brakes and maybe uprated suspension/arb's... which led me to consider the following to get done on Friday also:
1. Milltek Hi-Flow Spots Cat and Downflow Pipe with Cat Back System (Resonated)
2. K&N Filter
3. Carbonio Intake
4. ECS Dogbone Mount
2. Neuspeed Engine Torque Arm Insert - is this worth it on a DSG car and does it increase ride noise/vibrations?
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If you're still around my neck of the woods and would rather have somewhere more local, Stealthracing basically did to my MK4 years ago the same as you want done to your ED30.
http://stealthracing.co.uk/index.php
They're one of the two vag specialists that I've ever let touch any of my cars, the other is midlandvw who could also do what you need, but they aren't open on Saturdays!
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If you're still around my neck of the woods and would rather have somewhere more local, Stealthracing basically did to my MK4 years ago the same as you want done to your ED30.
http://stealthracing.co.uk/index.php
They're one of the two vag specialists that I've ever let touch any of my cars, the other is midlandvw who could also do what you need, but they aren't open on Saturdays!
Thanks Topher but from their site they only offer Custom Code remaps. Also, I work in Hook which is about 30 miles from Portsmouth ( I think) so can pop down if need to. Also, I 've heard that Stealth Racing used to be very good but... :lipsrsealed:
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Oh, forgot the final mod for the week... the ClubGTI sticker on the front windscreen is coming off to make way for the...... golfgti.co.uk stickers on the rear passenger windows :cool: or do you think they look better on the rear and front windows?
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which led me to consider the following to get done on Friday also:
1. Milltek Hi-Flow Spots Cat and Downflow Pipe with Cat Back System (Resonated)
2. K&N Filter
3. Carbonio Intake
4. ECS Dogbone Mount
2. Neuspeed Engine Torque Arm Insert - is this worth it on a DSG car and does it increase ride noise/vibrations?
The Neuspeed torque arm insert is the same as the ECS Dogbone Mount. With the Neuspeed one you'll have to get a new stretch bolt whereas the stretch bolt comes with the ECS mount.
In case you didn't know the Carbonio comes with a pipercross foam air filter that replaces the stock one.
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which led me to consider the following to get done on Friday also:
1. Milltek Hi-Flow Spots Cat and Downflow Pipe with Cat Back System (Resonated)
2. K&N Filter
3. Carbonio Intake
4. ECS Dogbone Mount
2. Neuspeed Engine Torque Arm Insert - is this worth it on a DSG car and does it increase ride noise/vibrations?
The Neuspeed torque arm insert is the same as the ECS Dogbone Mount. With the Neuspeed one you'll have to get a new stretch bolt whereas the stretch bolt comes with the ECS mount.
....You now get a free Torque Arm Insert with your Milltek exhaust.
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Many congartulations on your new addition to the family!
If you are still in Birmingham and are looking for a remap, there is a place called MIJ performance in Walsall. They are REVO dealers and provide a demo map for 6 hours. They are open on Saturdays but, they are not vw specalists.
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which led me to consider the following to get done on Friday also:
1. Milltek Hi-Flow Spots Cat and Downflow Pipe with Cat Back System (Resonated)
2. K&N Filter
3. Carbonio Intake
4. ECS Dogbone Mount
2. Neuspeed Engine Torque Arm Insert - is this worth it on a DSG car and does it increase ride noise/vibrations?
The Neuspeed torque arm insert is the same as the ECS Dogbone Mount. With the Neuspeed one you'll have to get a new stretch bolt whereas the stretch bolt comes with the ECS mount.
In case you didn't know the Carbonio comes with a pipercross foam air filter that replaces the stock one.
oh :embarassed:
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If you are still in Birmingham and are looking for a remap, there is a place called MIJ performance in Walsall. They are REVO dealers and provide a demo map for 6 hours. They are open on Saturdays but, they are not vw specalists.
....I would strongly advise anyone with a VW to go to a VAG specialist for anything and especially remapping.
It's when things need attention or go wrong that you need a specialist. If you know about my recent boost leak problems and how they got solved by a VAG specialist (JKM), you'll doubtless agree with me.
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If you are still in Birmingham and are looking for a remap, there is a place called MIJ performance in Walsall. They are REVO dealers and provide a demo map for 6 hours. They are open on Saturdays but, they are not vw specalists.
....I would strongly advise anyone with a VW to go to a VAG specialist for anything and especially remapping.
It's when things need attention or go wrong that you need a specialist. If you know about my recent boost leak problems and how they got solved by a VAG specialist (JKM), you'll doubtless agree with me.
Yes, thanks for that. I have been tempted to use them as they are close to where i am - JKM and the other tuners are very far away. But if its for peace of mind travelling the distance is a small price to pay i guess.
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If you are still in Birmingham and are looking for a remap, there is a place called MIJ performance in Walsall. They are REVO dealers and provide a demo map for 6 hours. They are open on Saturdays but, they are not vw specalists.
....I would strongly advise anyone with a VW to go to a VAG specialist for anything and especially remapping.
It's when things need attention or go wrong that you need a specialist. If you know about my recent boost leak problems and how they got solved by a VAG specialist (JKM), you'll doubtless agree with me.
Yes, thanks for that. I have been tempted to use them as they are close to where i am - JKM and the other tuners are very far away. But if its for peace of mind travelling the distance is a small price to pay i guess.
Well... tbh these are exactly my sentiments but I had to be polite to Topher as he was only trying to help and so I had to bat away the advice without slagging it off :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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err.. i didn't recommend MIJ :huh: the ones i did were dedicated VAG only people
i'd never put my seal of approval on any specialist i didn't have first hand experience with :tongue:
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Just caught up with this thread, mega congrats with yoir new arrival Illyan, hope mother and baby are doing well. Was gonna recommend
JKM but like so many others already have, youve made the right choice. Is it this saturday your going???, if so let me know when it is to see
if i can swing by to see ya.
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Is it this saturday your going???, if so let me know when it is to see
if i can swing by to see ya.
:wink:
....Be careful, illyun - Our Phil/Phyllis is a bit of a swinger! :evil:
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Is it this saturday your going???, if so let me know when it is to see
if i can swing by to see ya.
:wink:
....Be careful, illyun - Our Phil/Phyllis is a bit of a swinger! :evil:
shhhhhhhhhhhhhh :wink:
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1. Milltek Hi-Flow Spots Cat and Downflow Pipe with Cat Back System (Resonated) :
DEFINITELY (but consider the APR new one too)
2. K&N Filter :
I would use the one that comes with Carbonio OR buy the Pipercross one RR has.
Im a K&N fan but the oil + MAF issue has never been truly cleared up for me enough for me to buy one
3. Carbonio Intake : Looks good but minimal gains , very much a personal choice
4. ECS Dogbone Mount : DEFINITELY
may I also suggest
WhitelineAntiLiftKit
and less so
Boost guage ? to help review performance, its a great diagnostic tool
Forge DV ? maybe , Im using my guage above to tell me when I need this rather than change it before it splits!
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err.. i didn't recommend MIJ :huh: the ones i did were dedicated VAG only people
i'd never put my seal of approval on any specialist i didn't have first hand experience with :tongue:
Ooops sorry Topher.... I'm not all there at the moment as I have a screaming banshee hollering in my ear aka a baby. I assumed MIJ and Midland VW were the same as they both started with M and are both in the Midlands :rolleyes: Have you used Stealth quite a few times as I had heard that some of their best Techs left a couple of years back and they haven't been the same since - it may have been another garage that I'm thinking of though. Otherwise I wouldn't have hesitated to use them. Their site isn't too impressive though as I tried to get a quote on the Milltek and it doesn't work! :huh:
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Just caught up with this thread, mega congrats with yoir new arrival Illyan, hope mother and baby are doing well. Was gonna recommend
JKM but like so many others already have, youve made the right choice. Is it this saturday your going???, if so let me know when it is to see
if i can swing by to see ya.
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Thanks Phil. Unfortunately my swinging days are over and I have to try and become a responsible role model for my children - if only you'd asked earlier :laugh: :laugh:
I chose JKM because of RR and others singing their praises on this forum - including yourself - and have spoken to Keith who seems to know what he is talking about and he had a calming effect on me and I/he talked me out of going the whole hog in one go and getting Stage 2, plus I felt like a greedy spoilt child asking for it all in one go - I'll go back for after a brake and suspension upgrade. Would be lovely to see Phyllis and yourself again but I'll be there first thing tomorrow morning as they are now closed on Saturdays - they only open on selected Saturdays during the summer I think.
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Is it this saturday your going???, if so let me know when it is to see
if i can swing by to see ya.
:wink:
....Be careful, illyun - Our Phil/Phyllis is a bit of a swinger! :evil:
Are you speaking from personal experience? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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1. Milltek Hi-Flow Spots Cat and Downflow Pipe with Cat Back System (Resonated) :
DEFINITELY (but consider the APR new one too)
2. K&N Filter :
I would use the one that comes with Carbonio OR buy the Pipercross one RR has.
Im a K&N fan but the oil + MAF issue has never been truly cleared up for me enough for me to buy one
3. Carbonio Intake : Looks good but minimal gains , very much a personal choice
4. ECS Dogbone Mount : DEFINITELY
may I also suggest
WhitelineAntiLiftKit
and less so
Boost guage ? to help review performance, its a great diagnostic tool
Forge DV ? maybe , Im using my guage above to tell me when I need this rather than change it before it splits!
Thanks for that info... its exactly why I posted my list of mods to see what people might say. I only put the K&N filter down due to its reputation with Mk2 GTIs but wasn't sure what they were like for the Mk5's I keep hearing about the ITG filter - anyone know what thats like?
As for the Milltek vs APR exhaust, all I know is that Milltek have an established rep for exhausts and are based in the UK and I know next to nothing about the APR exhaust systems.
Carbonio - the marketing spiel says increasing air flow intake = increase in torque throughout the rev range and a crisper and better throttle response which is why I am buying it. Plus it looks good :cool:
What on earth is whitelineantiliftkit???
Forge DV has been booked in - I forgot to put it on the list :embarassed:
Boost gauge while useful looks a bit too boy racerish/Jap Crap to me - although it looks fine on the GT-R :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Right, just read the paper on that antilift kit... sounds like a very good mod - its on the list although I'm not sure JKM will have it in stock in time for tomorrow. :undecided:
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Right, just read the paper on that antilift kit... sounds like a very good mod - its on the list although I'm not sure JKM will have it in stock in time for tomorrow. :undecided:
Hmm, just spoke to JKM re this and they didn't exactly give a glowing review on the quality of this particular vendor. I wonder who else does it - time to go and consult Mr Google
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Right, just read the paper on that antilift kit... sounds like a very good mod - its on the list although I'm not sure JKM will have it in stock in time for tomorrow. :undecided:
Now I'm well confused... just read a review of this kit on Mkiv owners forum and they say its the dogs bo110ks?!
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Booked in again at JKM on Wednesday for Milltek full system, Neuspeed Torque arm thingy and Carbonio. I will order the Whiteline Anti lift kit and get that fitted too because it was praised by a lot of drivers on the Mkiv forum. I'll speak to Keith tomorrow about an Eibach springs and Koni shocks set-up vs Eibach coilovers.
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Is it this saturday your going???, if so let me know when it is to see
if i can swing by to see ya.
:wink:
....Be careful, illyun - Our Phil/Phyllis is a bit of a swinger! :evil:
Are you speaking from personal experience? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
....A gentleman never tells! :evil:
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Right, just read the paper on that antilift kit... sounds like a very good mod - its on the list although I'm not sure JKM will have it in stock in time for tomorrow. :undecided:
Hmm, just spoke to JKM re this and they didn't exactly give a glowing review on the quality of this particular vendor. I wonder who else does it - time to go and consult Mr Google
....I can't comment on JKM's experience with the AntiLift Kit vendor, but I recieved mine very promptly.
As you may know, VWRacing are currently tailor-making my suspension using KW components - They have no direct experience of the AntiLift Kit but told me that it was a good idea and should work nicely with their setup for me. They did advise using an aftermarket poly bush on the other side of the wishbones to balance/match the poly bushes integrated in the AntiLift Kit.
I haven't heard anything bad anywhere about this AntiLift Kit - Quite the contrary. Any problems with vendors is a separate matter.
:afro:
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these might help too (some you may have seen)
** GolfMkV specific pdf ** (http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bulletins/163-%20mk5%20anti%20lift.pdf)
** general pdf on WALK theory ** (http://www.whiteline.com.au/articles/Effect%20of%20WL%20ALK_b.pdf)
** tonys review on ukmkivs ** (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/221014/1426205.aspx)
** review on golfmkv.com ** (http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50901)
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i'll try and pop by illyan, depending on how much work im allocated for tommorow. Should know by 4pm today if i can or not.
Im guessing your gonna be there most of the day. Ask Kate for the secret stash of biscuits behind her shop counter.
Cant recommend Mr Sandwich man in the van more highly. Chicken Tikka Baguet is the daddy!. Just ask Redrobin aswell! :wink:
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i'll try and pop by illyan, depending on how much work im allocated for tommorow. Should know by 4pm today if i can or not.
Im guessing your gonna be there most of the day. Ask Kate for the secret stash of biscuits behind her shop counter.
Cant recommend Mr Sandwich man in the van more highly. Chicken Tikka Baguet is the daddy!. Just ask Redrobin aswell! :wink:
your on first name turms with JKM and have not done 1 mod to your car?? how and why??
edit: just remembered you set up the dd rr day :smiley:
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Ask Kate for the secret stash of biscuits behind her shop counter.
....That Kate is going to be in soooo much trouble next time I see her!! :evil: [where's the smilie for spanking!?]
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i'll try and pop by illyan, depending on how much work im allocated for tommorow. Should know by 4pm today if i can or not.
Im guessing your gonna be there most of the day. Ask Kate for the secret stash of biscuits behind her shop counter.
Cant recommend Mr Sandwich man in the van more highly. Chicken Tikka Baguet is the daddy!. Just ask Redrobin aswell! :wink:
If you can that'll be great. I'm in my car just about to set-off and should be there for 9am
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I think I'll be working all day else I'd have popped over for a coffee with you. I'm sure that you'll be well catered for anyway.
Oh and avoid those bl00dy Chicken Tikka things, they stink :sick:
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I think I'll be working all day else I'd have popped over for a coffee with you. I'm sure that you'll be well catered for anyway.
Oh and avoid those bl00dy Chicken Tikka things, they stink :sick:
Thanks.. my car just made 224.8bhp on the rolling road. Keith mentioned that the engine was a bit tight. I have done 22k miles on it but they are 95% motorway miles and I don't thrash the car so its probably why its a bit low :rolleyes: :cry: I'm still on my original tyres - Michelin Pilots which have plenty of thread left so it hasn't been abused until this afternoon :evil: :evil: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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This is great! It's like we have our own reporter on site :grin:
Keep us updated Illyun :wink:
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Made 278.5bhp on the rollers after remap which is ok. The car does feel seriously fast though - it reminds me of the acceleration my Subaru STI had. Still, its onto Stage 2 next week with a lot more mods to come. It does feel a bit strange though as the mod has made my driving style much more conservative. Its too quick to unleash all the time without losing your licence. It made driving a bit more boring in that sense as I have to be careful with the pedal now. But for everyday driving, you can progress with ease. Strangely, the car felt aound 10-15 slower when doing around 70-80 on the motorway - like i was doing 60-70?! Anyone else had this strange effect after a mod? Or maybe JKM just remapped the speedo to show a much higher speed than indicated :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Wait until you've had the other mods done too Illyun :wink:
The more power you get, the more you want. It becomes an addiction :evil:
I've just had my daily shot coming home in the last 15 mins :rolleyes: at totally road legal speeds :wink:
22k miles and still on the original tyres.....shame on you :laugh:
I'm nearly out of my second set of front boots at 13k miles :embarassed:
Glad you are enjoying the newly re-vitalised motor Illyun...now get out there and give it some welly for the lads :cool:
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nice one
278.5 - 224.8 = 53.7 bhp increase = awesome in my book :cool:
now get the graphs scanned and posted :grin:
I reckon the car feels slower as you now get so much more shove.
6th gear WOT , 22psi oh yeah ...........thats the spot...... :evil:
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I reckon the car feels slower as you now get so much more shove.
6th gear WOT , 22psi oh yeah ...........thats the spot...... :evil:
LOL :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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nice one
278.5 - 224.8 = 53.7 bhp increase = awesome in my book :cool:
now get the graphs scanned and posted :grin:
On the way later tonight :cool:
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Sorry i didnt make it down illyan, there is a good possibilty of coming down nxt wednesday as im sure im day off that day and not reliant on finishing early ( got stuck on someones roof and had to call for assistance LOL). Hope your motors going well now, i bet you can feel abit more shove right accross the rev range (if its anything like gtijames ed30) with the miltek, it will go and sound awesome.
Looking foward to seeing more accurate graphs :lipsrsealed:
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Looking foward to seeing more accurate graphs :lipsrsealed:
I think Keith was maybe slightly concerned that I might be disappointed with the output as Revo claim 300bhp and people regularly get 290bhp+.. but I couldn't really care less about +-10bhp on a one off session. He explained that JKM try to be honest with their RR Readings and its not an exact science. I'd only be concerned if I was at an RR day and the car was consistently reading lower than other Ed30s as this may indicate something wrong somewhere. He mentioned something about ignition timings but I really didn't understand that bit at all :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Sorry i didnt make it down illyan, ( got stuck on someones roof and had to call for assistance LOL).
(http://bigruta.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/wm_scope_edited2.jpg)
^ Not perving on that girl in her bathroom again, were you! :evil:
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I think Keith was maybe slightly concerned that I might be disappointed with the output as Revo claim 300bhp and people regularly get 290bhp+.. but I couldn't really care less about +-10bhp on a one off session. He explained that JKM try to be honest with their RR Readings and its not an exact science. I'd only be concerned if I was at an RR day and the car was consistently reading lower than other Ed30s as this may indicate something wrong somewhere.
He mentioned something about ignition timings but I really didn't understand that bit at all :grin: :grin: :grin:
....Like most tuners, Revo will advertise the higher numbers which are possible. But as I think Keith was probably alluding to, the higher numbers are achieved when you use the higher settings on Timing / Boost / Fuelling. But higher settings = Higher stresses/loadings. JKM are, thankfully!, well known for being as realistic as they can on their dyno.
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I think Keith was maybe slightly concerned that I might be disappointed with the output as Revo claim 300bhp and people regularly get 290bhp+.. but I couldn't really care less about +-10bhp on a one off session. He explained that JKM try to be honest with their RR Readings and its not an exact science. I'd only be concerned if I was at an RR day and the car was consistently reading lower than other Ed30s as this may indicate something wrong somewhere.
He mentioned something about ignition timings but I really didn't understand that bit at all :grin: :grin: :grin:
....Like most tuners, Revo will advertise the higher numbers which are possible. But as I think Keith was probably alluding to, the higher numbers are achieved when you use the higher settings on Timing / Boost / Fuelling. But higher settings = Higher stresses/loadings. JKM are, thankfully!, well known for being as realistic as they can on their dyno.
I think my boost is set to 7
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Wait until you've had the other mods done too Illyun :wink:
The more power you get, the more you want. It becomes an addiction :evil:
I've just had my daily shot coming home in the last 15 mins :rolleyes: at totally road legal speeds :wink:
22k miles and still on the original tyres.....shame on you :laugh:
I'm nearly out of my second set of front boots at 13k miles :embarassed:
How did you get through them so quick? :shocked: :shocked: I thought it was the fact that my car is DSG which means I get less wheel spin and axle tramp hence preserving the tyres for longer. But I don't do many GP starts in mine and have never used 'Launch Control' though I used it liberally in the old R32 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Glad you are enjoying the newly re-vitalised motor Illyun...now get out there and give it some welly for the lads :cool:
I'll try - begininng to feel a bit inadequate now :embarassed:
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Sorry i didnt make it down illyan, there is a good possibilty of coming down nxt wednesday as im sure im day off that day and not reliant on finishing early ( got stuck on someones roof and had to call for assistance LOL).
No problem.. might see you next week :wink: BTW what were you doing on the roof - trying to burgle the house? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Any torque figures Illyun?
Nearly 2 sets of tyres in 13k miles is a little OTT, but I shredded the second set at Inters when the clutch was GAGA and had unlimited runs for free*
*at the expense of the clutch plates :laugh:
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Any torque figures Illyun?
Nearly 2 sets of tyres in 13k miles is a little OTT, but I shredded the second set at Inters when the clutch was GAGA and had unlimited runs for free*
*at the expense of the clutch plates :laugh:
Can't remember the torque figures... all will be revealed tonight when I'll post the readouts
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Sorry i didnt make it down illyan, there is a good possibilty of coming down nxt wednesday as im sure im day off that day and not reliant on finishing early ( got stuck on someones roof and had to call for assistance LOL).
No problem.. might see you next week :wink: BTW what were you doing on the roof - trying to burgle the house? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
i work for Sky :smiley:
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Sorry i didnt make it down illyan, there is a good possibilty of coming down nxt wednesday as im sure im day off that day and not reliant on finishing early ( got stuck on someones roof and had to call for assistance LOL).
No problem.. might see you next week :wink: BTW what were you doing on the roof - trying to burgle the house? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
i work for Sky :smiley:
I know.. just messing with you :wink: I work for the good guys - Virgin Media
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you are joking i hope illyan!!, i always thought you were Branson's right hand man :laugh: :wink:
or that does explain you being in Hook in hampshire :smiley:.
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you are joking i hope illyan!!, i always thought you were Branson's right hand man :laugh: :wink:
or that does explain you being in Hook in hampshire :smiley:.
:wink:
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Does anyone know if you need an uprated fuel pump for Stage 2 Revo... if you do, then I'll probably not go down that route until I learn more about the full effects of fitting one - I've read that it causes long-term problems in some posts.
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you don't need an uprated fuel pump for stage 2, just exhaust and intake. There is stage 2+ map for fuel pump, intake and exhaust :smiley:
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you don't need an uprated fuel pump for stage 2, just exhaust and intake. There is stage 2+ map for fuel pump, intake and exhaust :smiley:
Thanks for that. Its just that I read the following on the Revo site and wondered about the 4-bar fuel pressure regulator...
Stage 2 software produces 10-15% for power when used with:
An aftermarket performance exhaust system
A 4 bar fuel pressure regulator
An optional aftermarket diverter valve
And a Revo SPS
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The 4 bar fuel pressure regulator requirement is for the old 1.8T cars.
It is NOT a requirement for the 2.0TFSI cars.
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Does anyone know if you need an uprated fuel pump for Stage 2 Revo... if you do, then I'll probably not go down that route until I learn more about the full effects of fitting one - I've read that it causes long-term problems in some posts.
Speak to Keith at JKM about this....he will tell you everything you need to know. Alternatively, see my recent post that documented my modifications as that explains the basics behind the fuel pump situation.
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Stage 2 doesn't require the uprated HPFP.
Stage 2+ is specifically adapted for cars with an uprated HPFP. It basically makes the turbo hold boost a little bit more in the mid range as fuel pressure is no longer an issue. Result is bit more torque in the mid range, which is where you want it!
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Does anyone know if you need an uprated fuel pump for Stage 2 Revo... if you do, then I'll probably not go down that route until I learn more about the full effects of fitting one - I've read that it causes long-term problems in some posts.
Speak to Keith at JKM about this....he will tell you everything you need to know. Alternatively, see my recent post that documented my modifications as that explains the basics behind the fuel pump situation.
Thanks for the advice guys. It always helps to have some kind of info when approaching people like Keith as 1. You don't look like a complete tool :laugh: 2. You can appreciate and understand their advice better
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Ditto to what everyone else has said.
I asked Keith at JKM and Revo the same question - NOT necessary for Revo2 UNLESS you experience big dips in your power curve which manifest itself as power interruption spikes while driving. That's the great thing about using someone like Keith/JKM - They've got the experience and diagnosis tools - Car Doctors! And they aren't constantly trying to sell you something they've got on a shelf.
As we used to say in my amateur bicycle racing days - "If it works, don't mend it!!"
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As we used to say in my amateur bicycle racing days - "If it works, don't mend it!!"
:afro:
After what youve been through Robin lately, that one line made me chuckle! :wink:
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:laugh: - Yeah, when it stops working, that is definitely the time to mend it!!
It could have been a lot worse - Worse things happen at sea!
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/EvMe/800px-Giant_octopus_attacks_ship.jpg)
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As we used to say in my amateur bicycle racing days - "If it works, don't mend it!!"
Robin, we keep hearing little snippets about your past on this and the other forum!!....I am becoming very intrigued! Any plans to do an autobio?! Sounds like you have had a very interesting time during the years!! :) :)
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Funny, but recently a friend said the same thing. I might not be afraid to stand on a darkened stage under a spotlight in front of (very small) crowds, but I don't feel worthy of a bio. Besides, some of the more interesting stories I could tell might have some very serious repurcussions indeed!! And I mean at national level! The red top press could have (yet another) field day. Perhaps I should write something with a proviso that it's not published until after I'm gone.
Btw, I'm still having an interesting time occasionally - Life ain't over just yet.
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Currently running Stage 1 Revo with a Forge DV... time to move on :evil: :evil: The following is scheduled for Wednesday:
Full Milltek System (Resonated Cat Back) with torque arm insert
EVOMS Cold Air Intake (dropped the Carbonio)
APR Fuel Pump
Bilstein PSS9/B16 Coilovers adjusted to 20mm drop or thereabouts
Eibach Front and Rear Anti Roll Bars
Whiteline Anti Lift Kit
Stage 2 Revo with RR before and after
Plus Powerflex bushes and an aftermarket engine cover next week - as the EVOMs CAI kit means I have to take the engine cover off
I have to wait for anything else like brakes (will have to drive gingerly :grin: :grin:) as the cost is mounting. Probably get brakes and Quaife LSD done early next year in February.
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Oh... almost forget, S3 intercooler is in the pipeline too for next spring :cool:
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oh my god!!!!!! your plans sound amazing! I swear not that long ago you were talking about not modifying your GTI!
Great plans, and i cant wait to see it all progress!!!!!
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oh my god!!!!!! your plans sound amazing! I swear not that long ago you were talking about not modifying your GTI!
Great plans, and i cant wait to see it all progress!!!!!
Yes although that was because I might have a long term job in the Middle East, but I just thought, 'sod it, I'll get it done'. I always planned to Revo the car and put a few things in but not as much as I am doing.... but as RR says, its a slippery slope and I have fallen off the edge :kiss: :kiss:
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oh my god!!!!!! your plans sound amazing! I swear not that long ago you were talking about not modifying your GTI!
Great plans, and i cant wait to see it all progress!!!!!
Yes although that was because I might have a long term job in the Middle East, but I just thought, 'sod it, I'll get it done'. I always planned to Revo the car and put a few things in but not as much as I am doing.... but as RR says, its a slippery slope and I have fallen off the edge :kiss: :kiss:
LOL, and you've hit the bottom, stood up and fallen over another one, but this one appears to be bottomless :evil:
If you want any more ideas. I'm always here to goad help :rolleyes:
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oh my god!!!!!! your plans sound amazing! I swear not that long ago you were talking about not modifying your GTI!
Great plans, and i cant wait to see it all progress!!!!!
Yes although that was because I might have a long term job in the Middle East, but I just thought, 'sod it, I'll get it done'. I always planned to Revo the car and put a few things in but not as much as I am doing.... but as RR says, its a slippery slope and I have fallen off the edge :kiss: :kiss:
LOL, and you've hit the bottom, stood up and fallen over another one, but this one appears to be bottomless :evil:
If you want any more ideas. I'm always here to goad help :rolleyes:
I have to admit, I've been looking at the sigs of members on here scouring for anything that I have missed out :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Apart from the Quaife LSD, S3 Intercooler, a new set of decent tyres and Brakes, I will concentrate on aesthetic mods including a set of rear LED lights, and a CF bonnet within a month. How much do the OSIR bonnets cost? Or maybe I should make the brakes a priority.. :undecided:
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I have to admit, I've been looking at the sigs of members on here scouring for anything that I have missed out :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
....There's a few mods I've got which aren't listed in my sig! :evil:
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I have to admit, I've been looking at the sigs of members on here scouring for anything that I have missed out :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
....There's a few mods I've got which aren't listed in my sig! :evil:
I know... I think you mentioned it on an earlier post that your sig needed updating... so come on then. What have you got? :drool:
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Actually... I can think of one mod that you haven't listed on your sig - one that I said I'd get after seeing your car at GTI International :evil: :evil: :evil: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :cool:
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brakes before bonnet :smiley:
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brakes before bonnet :smiley:
....x2 - Most definitely!! :afro:
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brakes before bonnet :smiley:
....x2 - Most definitely!! :afro:
Noooo......at the same time...double the pleasure :drool:
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illyun, you must be minted to do all this within this time sacle :shocked: respect!
oh and go with the brakes, id go with robins set up :wink:, i think hurdys are a lil overkill :laugh:
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illyun, you must be minted to do all this within this time sacle :shocked: respect!
Well, the pressure's been building up for a while and I've had 3 IT contracts on the go since July - October this year which is why I didn't post much in the forum during that period :wink: Plus I almost bought a 'mint' as described by the owner, low mileage Mk2 GTI (can't help it :grin:) from ebay which turned out to be an accident damaged dog with respray, misaligned panels and resealed inner wings - he was looking for a mug to offload the car to, but didn't count on getting someone who knows a thing or two about the Mk2 :rolleyes:. You can guess where the money for that car went instead :grin: :grin: :grin:
oh and go with the brakes, id go with robins set up :wink:, i think hurdys are a lil overkill :laugh:
But the bonnet looks nicer :sad: :cry:
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Brakes it is then... :angry:
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brakes before bonnet :smiley:
....x2 - Most definitely!! :afro:
Noooo......at the same time...double the pleasure :drool:
Bonnet will have to be done in February with the Quaife LSD... its when my contract (hopefully) gets renewed :wink:
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I'm not at home at the moment so can't post the RR plots on here. However, suffice to say at Revo Stage 1 the car was very quick, but now at Stage 2 plus other stuff, its just a savage beast :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: More to follow later...
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I'm not at home at the moment so can't post the RR plots on here. However, suffice to say at Revo Stage 1 the car was very quick, but now at Stage 2 plus other stuff, its just a savage beast :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: More to follow later...
Ooooh, my interest is peaking now, I wonder what you managed on the ultra accurate Dyno dynamics RR :drool: :drool: :drool:
Tell me more.................
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From reading this I'm starting to think your numbers have come up or something!!
Do you have a Direct Debit to JKM :grin:
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Some photos ....
Ed30 on the rollers at JKM on 5th December:
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Output: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/mudawana/05122008140.jpg)
The completed beast around 20th December:
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/mudawana/DSC00034.jpg)
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From reading this I'm starting to think your numbers have come up or something!!
Do you have a Direct Debit to JKM :grin:
No... just got addicted and blew a huge hole in the year's savings in one go :sick: