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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Obbzi on 05 November 2008, 11:13
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I have just been offered an unbelieveable deal on an R32. I am sooo tempted to say yes, but I need to step back and work out the figures.
Roughly how many miles do you get to a full tank of fuel and how much does it cost to fill up? I will be doing mainly motorway miles.
Reason i ask is, I had decided to get a GTI because I do over 1500 miles a month so fuel consumption is a major factor.
Thanks for your help guys :smiley:
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Didn't you already ask me this? :grin:
300 miles per tank give or take. 50-something quid to fill up. I do around 1200 miles a month and spend about 250 - 300 per month on petrol.
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Yes I did ask you! :smiley:
I had decided to go for a GTI but have just had a phonecall about an R32 that is too good to turn down :laugh:
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Prices have gone crazy! See here
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=96405.0
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DO IT... Ive had two. awesome car and driven "STEADY" it honestly isnt that bad on fuel.And lets face it it,ll stop you getting done for speeding wont it... :grin:
An the 32 is more exclusive than these common GTIS :wink: :wink:
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My long term average in a mk4 R32 was 27mpg, I am tempted to change back to one I must admit, mainly as I miss the 4wd.
The GTI average is 32mpg, same sort of driving.
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The only stumbling block now is its only a 3 door, if it was 5 door it would be mine. I have 2 small kids with car seats so need to think before I decide
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How much are they asking for it? There are plenty of 5 door ones around. I don't have kids but find the extra doors very useful.
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Just under £15k
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/776770.htm
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/776770.htm
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Scam he's also selling a TT
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/776768.htm
Nick
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/776770.htm
:shocked: :shocked:
Seen a few for silly prices and when i have rang up about them they know nothing about it, infact they are not even selling a car
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For my driving, here are the results I get having now my R32 and also for my GTI - my driving habits were identical. Note my GTI is remapped to 240BHP.
GTI R32
Overall Average 26 23
Town Driving 18 to 23 16 to 20
Motorway (75 to 80mph) 27 to 30 27 to 31
Thrashing who cares who cares (oh the sound of the V6 :)
Miles on full tank 260 - 320 260 to 300
So, from owning an R32 for 9 months to a GTI for 4 months and back to my R32 again I notice as near as makes no difference to my fuel bill. I would say the R is costing me at most an extra 5er to 10er a week. Well worth it for the 4WD and V6 soundtrack.
Now I dont want to start any arguments here but all I can say is having owned both long term I can tell you one thing for sure. The GTI is more fun to drive. End of. The R32 is amazing, the GTI is amazing. They both make me smile, but what makes me smile is different for each of them. If that makes sense. Over in N Ireland we get lots and lots of rain. The roads are always slippy especially at this time of year so 4MOTION of the R32 is great.
The GTI and R32 are both highly desirable and as I have said before in an old post it is nice that we have both to chose from.
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Gimme gimme gimme! I want one of these ridiculously priced r32's...ideally DBP/ DSG ...though need a less than insulting trade in on mine first! (no chance I guess in todays market).
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/776770.htm
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complete liar!! £7900!!! well if he thinks "- the fastest and most powerful production Golf " hes full of it!. i would sell my liver for that price though!
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Pistonheads regularly remove this garbage,...takes then a day or two to get round to it though...last one some of us had some fun with a twit who was selling an ed30 (i think)...."she" was in Cyprus....and would get the car over to me! lol...
I said I was in the Army based in Cyprus and would come to visit the car with a squad of my mates to check her over before agreeing....guess what....never heard a word back! :laugh:
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"- the fastest and most powerful production Golf " hes full of it!.
According to the official VW figures, it is :tongue:
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"- the fastest and most powerful production Golf " hes full of it!.
According to the official VW figures, it is :tongue:
:wink:
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BTW O.P. I get about r32 consumption figures on mine...about 300 miles to a 55 litre tank...and that is hardly driving hard...worst I have had is 252 miles per tank.....you do the math...its not great.
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"- the fastest and most powerful production Golf " hes full of it!.
According to the official VW figures, it is :tongue:
Phil still struggling to come to terms with having the second fastest golf :rolleyes: :tongue:
I get 26.8 average.. not bad I say
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what about a charged mk4
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/674389.htm
and i thought that other add had to be a scam :angry:
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im currently looking into an R32, maybe not as fast but still a very decent car at a stupidly cheap price.
how much would need to be spent to get 300bhp from one? :smiley:
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Lots.
Nick
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im currently looking into an R32, maybe not as fast but still a very decent car at a stupidly cheap price.
how much would need to be spent to get 300bhp from one? :smiley:
(http://www.aylis.com/temp/weston.gif)
look at Rupo's results and his list of mods. I'm sure 300bhp is possible with N/A tuning but it would probably have to include higher compression pistons and a rev limit of 7200rpm
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/679150.htm (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/679150.htm)
now here's someone who hasn't actually checked the market......
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The car I've been offered is 56 plate, 3 door, silver, full leather, DSG, 15,000 miles, 6 cd changer for £14,995.
Now if it was 5 door it would deffo be mine but going up tonight with the kids to see how practical it will be having a 3 door!
I hope its ok as I want it! :laugh:
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Im quite sure Davefish posted 263bhp totally standard. Graphs posted on another thread.
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Yeah, he did. But then put a milltek on and lost 10bhp :laugh:
Discrepancies of +-10bhp on a dyno are largely irrelevant unless you're taking the readings on the same day.
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look at rupos results and that is about all you get NA from that engine as i was going down the same path but for the £££ it was not worth it :cry: so it has to be a charger or a turbo :evil: so what you need is £20k and buy a mk4/5 and do the charger or turbo
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i have a 3 door, its a bit of a pain really with kids, they struggle to get in the back, then you need to get someone to shut the door...perhaps its just me being lazy but i cant be arsed getting out and walking round the car to shut the door behind them...i mean snot like they are a new girlfriend or anything ... :laugh: :laugh:
looks great in 3 doors though. sounds an ok deal mate...though there were reports of 07's for that kind of money around, also 08's at under 17k....
check out http://www.freecarvaluations.co.uk/ (http://www.freecarvaluations.co.uk/)
and stick in the reg plate and the mileage....see what you get and how far off your stealer is
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look at rupos results and that is about all you get NA from that engine as i was going down the same path but for the £££ it was not worth it :cry: so it has to be a charger or a turbo :evil: so what you need is £20k and buy a mk4/5 and do the charger or turbo
Or get an ED30 and map it :laugh: :evil:
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look at rupos results and that is about all you get NA from that engine as i was going down the same path but for the £££ it was not worth it :cry: so it has to be a charger or a turbo :evil: so what you need is £20k and buy a mk4/5 and do the charger or turbo
Or get an ED30 and map it :laugh: :evil:
i am not saying anything :wink: :grin:
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"- the fastest and most powerful production Golf " hes full of it!.
According to the official VW figures, it is :tongue:
yes dated prior to release of the edition 30's :wink: if you know what those are Toph :wink:
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Model 0-100kmh Top speed Power
3.2 V6 R32 4MOTION 3d 6.3 s 155 mph 246 bhp
3.2 V6 R32 4MOTION 3d DSG 6.0 s 154 mph 246 bhp
3.2 V6 R32 4MOTION 5d 6.3 s 155 mph 246 bhp
3.2 V6 R32 4MOTION 5d DSG 6.0 s 154 mph 246 bhp
2.0T GTI Edition 30 3d 6.6 s 152 mph 226 bhp
2.0T GTI Edition 30 3d DSG 6.4 s 151 mph 226 bhp
2.0T GTI Edition 30 5d 6.6 s 152 mph 226 bhp
2.0T GTI Edition 30 5d DSG 6.4 s 151 mph 226 bhp
excuse the poor copy/paste formatting.. cba to fix it!
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the R has always been top of the bill hasnt it? fastest and most expensive?
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wheres My Vw driver Mag that has in big words "FASTEST PRODUCTION VW" Edition 30 (Before the recent release of the R36) it is no longer.
Sorry Toph, those figures are abit inaccurate. Hurdy's standard ed30 DSG at the Pod was 5.66.(before he modded) He cant go 1 second faster just because he's talented now can he! :laugh:
Wheres all the ed30's owners when you need them.................oh yeah i know where theyve gone :embarassed:
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According to the official VW figures, it is :tongue:
:wink:
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Phil can I also refer to the lap times of the TOP GEAR test track which prove without a shadow of a doubt the R32 is the fastest golf :wink:
From what I remeber it was almost 2 CLEAR SECONDS FASTER THAN THE ED30
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Official figures are usually done with a certain amount of fuel, number of people on board etc.
Nick
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Phil can I also refer to the lap times of the TOP GEAR test track which prove without a shadow of a doubt the R32 is the fastest golf :wink:
From what I remeber it was almost 2 CLEAR SECONDS FASTER THAT THE ED30
ok, we are talking in a straight line, not a test track R32uk, the edition 30 dsg IS faster in a straight line then the R, only when bends and Race circuits are brought in, is when the R can go round them Faster.
If something is faster it means from point A to Point B, doesnt have to have a series of bends roundabouts etc in between :rolleyes:
The Release of the R36 passat is Now VW's fastest Production car available.
And wheres the video of an edition 30 going around TG's track, has it been shown on the box??? i havent seen it.
This R couldnt even Beat a standard GTi!! and its dsg.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz65y8bUkDI
anyway straying somewhat off the Topic :wink:
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How can you define what being 'faster' means? There was nothing between stock ED30's and stock R32's at santapod last time i looked. From a rolling start, while already on boost, sure the turbo might pull away until it reaches vmax and the R32 sails past. My point is.. its all bullsh!t figures and the only thing I'm trying to prove here is the guy's claims on his advert are valid because that is also VW's official line :smiley:
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i agree, i spose the same old question is "does a standard or ed30 GTi's produce 197 or 227 bhp respectively. "who knows!!" :laugh:
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Phil can I also refer to the lap times of the TOP GEAR test track which prove without a shadow of a doubt the R32 is the fastest golf :wink:
From what I remeber it was almost 2 CLEAR SECONDS FASTER THAT THE ED30
ok, we are talking in a straight line, not a test track R32uk, the edition 30 dsg IS faster in a straight line then the R, only when bends and Race circuits are brought in, is when the R can go round them Faster.
If something is faster it means from point A to Point B, doesnt have to have a series of bends roundabouts etc in between :rolleyes:
The Release of the R36 passat is Now VW's fastest Production car available.
And wheres the video of an edition 30 going around TG's track, has it been shown on the box??? i havent seen it.
I didnt realise we were bringing conditions into it... :tongue: Surely the best way to find out which car is faster would be to put it round a track??
Either way, over here in the UK where approx 60% of the year it is wet... I would still say that the ED30 will be getting beat by the R32. So the only way the ED30 will quicker is if the track is straight + the weather is dry + its a DSG. Hardly fair to say the ED30 is the quickest most powerful golf.. :huh:
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'most powerful golf' is one claim noone can possibly argue away. I can almost hear the 'but remapped..!' cries now, and I'm sorry but that doesn't count :tongue:
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Nick
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Phil can I also refer to the lap times of the TOP GEAR test track which prove without a shadow of a doubt the R32 is the fastest golf :wink:
From what I remeber it was almost 2 CLEAR SECONDS FASTER THAT THE ED30
ok, we are talking in a straight line, not a test track R32uk, the edition 30 dsg IS faster in a straight line then the R, only when bends and Race circuits are brought in, is when the R can go round them Faster.
If something is faster it means from point A to Point B, doesnt have to have a series of bends roundabouts etc in between :rolleyes:
The Release of the R36 passat is Now VW's fastest Production car available.
And wheres the video of an edition 30 going around TG's track, has it been shown on the box??? i havent seen it.
I didnt realise we were bringing conditions into it... :tongue: Surely the best way to find out which car is faster would be to put it round a track??
Either way, over here in the UK where approx 60% of the year it is wet... I would still say that the ED30 will be getting beat by the R32. So the only way the ED30 will quicker is if the track is straight + the weather is dry + its a DSG. Hardly fair to say the ED30 is the quickest most powerful golf.. :huh:
im quoting from Vw driver issue when the edition30's were released in March issue 07 which previews the DSG version( jan07 for the manual). It states very clearly, "makes this GTi, the fastest excelarating vehical that Vw has Produced to date surpassing the Formidable R32"
We will both had to agree to disagree!!, but in the wise words of hir Topher, back on subject!
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I was thinking more along the lines of (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/tophism/smilies/deadhorse.gif)
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wheres My Vw driver Mag that has in big words "FASTEST PRODUCTION VW" Edition 30 (Before the recent release of the R36) it is no longer.
Sorry Toph, those figures are abit inaccurate. Hurdy's standard ed30 DSG at the Pod was 5.66.(before he modded) He cant go 1 second faster just because he's talented now can he! :laugh:
Wheres all the ed30's owners when you need them.................oh yeah i know where theyve gone :embarassed:
Im here, but just enjoying this thread!! :wink:
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I was thinking more along the lines of (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/tophism/smilies/deadhorse.gif)
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Nathan, you also read the driver Mag!,
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Little bit of info to add to the mix, vw and audi press cars are renowned for being 'fiddled' with before handing keys over to journos. 2 instances i've seen with my own eyes.. an R32 reaching close to 170mph (what happened to the 155mph limiter? what else was done?) and Vaughn's brother had an ex-press Audi S3, sold as standard, one of the older ones that were supposed to be 225bhp.. took it to a rolling road day and it made over 260bhp with a non-standard, unidentified map.
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Phil can I also refer to the lap times of the TOP GEAR test track which prove without a shadow of a doubt the R32 is the fastest golf :wink:
From what I remeber it was almost 2 CLEAR SECONDS FASTER THAT THE ED30
ok, we are talking in a straight line, not a test track R32uk, the edition 30 dsg IS faster in a straight line then the R, only when bends and Race circuits are brought in, is when the R can go round them Faster.
If something is faster it means from point A to Point B, doesnt have to have a series of bends roundabouts etc in between :rolleyes:
The Release of the R36 passat is Now VW's fastest Production car available.
And wheres the video of an edition 30 going around TG's track, has it been shown on the box??? i havent seen it.
I didnt realise we were bringing conditions into it... :tongue: Surely the best way to find out which car is faster would be to put it round a track??
Either way, over here in the UK where approx 60% of the year it is wet... I would still say that the ED30 will be getting beat by the R32. So the only way the ED30 will quicker is if the track is straight + the weather is dry + its a DSG. Hardly fair to say the ED30 is the quickest most powerful golf.. :huh:
im quoting from Vw driver issue when the edition30's were released in March issue 07 which previews the DSG version( jan07 for the manual). It states very clearly, "makes this GTi, the fastest excelarating vehical that Vw has Produced to date surpassing the Formidable R32"
We will both had to agree to disagree!!, but in the wise words of hir Topher, back on subject!
tbf that quote is just a opinion... where as the 2 sec quicker round the track is fact! :wink: (both driven by the latest Stig by the way)
Looks like we will just have to agree to disagree like you said :wink: :grin:
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I have always take 'most powerful' to be the power of the car, R32 being the range topper having more bhp from factory. Yes the Ed30 does jump over it once remapped but that doesnt count - its like saying put a turbo on the R32 and it then becomes more powerful again... and we go on...
If your in the market for a very well designed car, great engine then at these prices the R32 should not be turned down even taking into account it higher running costs. A lot of car for your money, and in turn it will probably have an effect on the GTI prices if you think about it.
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I have always take 'most powerful' to be the power of the car, R32 being the range topper having more bhp from factory. Yes the Ed30 does jump over it once remapped but that doesnt count - its like saying put a turbo on the R32 and it then becomes more powerful again... and we go on...
If your in the market for a very well designed car, great engine then at these prices the R32 should not be turned down even taking into account it higher running costs. A lot of car for your money, and in turn it will probably have an effect on the GTI prices if you think about it.
Good point there Neg.. I dont think any type of car will be immune to the latest slump in prices... and from what we have seen on here the running costs of the R32 are really not that much higher (barr tax of course)
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Just to add my 2 pence worth!
I do enjoy my Ed30 with a passion during the warm dry days, where traction is not an issue. However, those days are very limited!
Now, with the cold and rain it's IMPOSSIBLE to use anywhere near full power and it spins in 3rd and sometimes 4th gear.
I'm pretty sure an R32 would murder an Ed30 simply because you cannot use the full potential of an Ed30 for at least 60-70% of the year.
:undecided:
It would give my 360 trouble as well, as thats even scarier in this weather!
To be honest, I didn't like the chrome grille on the R32 and found the Ed30 a good balance between exclusiveness and power/equipment. :cool:
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The wife wants a newer car and said she would have mine but not sure if I want to swap yet - for this kind of money though an R32 could be an option! Dont know why but I have never considered an R32 myself - maybe as I felt they were over priced but now....
Like you say apart from roadtax the running costs seem very similar.
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I have always take 'most powerful' to be the power of the car, R32 being the range topper having more bhp from factory. Yes the Ed30 does jump over it once remapped but that doesnt count - its like saying put a turbo on the R32 and it then becomes more powerful again... and we go on...
If your in the market for a very well designed car, great engine then at these prices the R32 should not be turned down even taking into account it higher running costs. A lot of car for your money, and in turn it will probably have an effect on the GTI prices if you think about it.
Well said that man!!!! :wink: Seems to be alot of "bad feeling" towards the R32 on this forum for some reason.Dont knock it till you try it i say.Absolutely nothing wrong power and speed wise with a MK5 R32,maybe with basic mods e.g milltek etc. Remapped GTI,S arent the be all and end all of everything!!
I personally like 4wd security when pressing on NOT a new set of tyres every 1000 miles :laugh: :laugh:
Of course IMO!!!!
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That's it, im off to fit 4 wheel drive to my ED30!! :laugh: :laugh:
I don't think it's bad feeling towards the R32 Chris, just the eternal debate of 'my Golf's quicker than yours'
Lets just face it guys, in some conditions one or the other is likely to be quicker - end of!
If you want refinement and a silky V6 and top of the range luxuries = R32
If you want balls out tuneability and the head turning looks (IMO) = ED30/GTI
Amen! :grin:
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Nick
Couldn't agree more.
Pathetic.
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Anyway, back to the topic :smiley:
went to VW and 3 doors isn't going to work, as much as I would like it to but having 2 young kids I am really going to struggle, so I have decided I am getting an R32 (after finally deciding I was getting a GTI :wink:) but it needs full leather and 5 doors :smiley:
Keeping my eyes open :cool:
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full leather = easy cleaning of the crumbs :wink:
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I don't know how true this is but i heard a little rumour that the r32 bhp was increased to 265ps from my08.It also showed on davefish car as 263bhp and others showing around 250 bhp with very low miles and as anyone know these engines take a good 5k miles and upwards to start loosening up.My new one certainaly feels quicker than my 1st mk5 r32 and it does feel quicker than my standard ed 30 already.Love them both tho loads peace :wink:
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Nick
Couldn't agree more.
Pathetic.
Strange!! i thought a forum was for "a bit of banter,crack,laugh??" i was soooo wrong then eh?? :smug:
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Yes this is all in good humour but some think different :sad:. It would be a very boring place to visit if there wasnt any banter of "Whos's
cock crows loudest". You dont get Dailey endings like these in eastenders do you!! :smiley:
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seems to me Phil you want quote official figures when it suits you(bhp) and unofficial other times(performance figures) not sure you can have it both ways. :smiley:
I had a run against an R32 in my ED30 in damp conditions and I couldn't live with it at all, but when we got up onto the m/way it was a different story :smiley: did sound mint though.
I think the R32's are crackin value for money at the minute, don't stop the GTi's being crackin cars though :laugh:
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Yes this is all in good humour but some think different :sad:. It would be a very boring place to visit if there wasnt any banter of "Whos's
cock crows loudest". You dont get Dailey endings like these in eastenders do you!! :smiley:
Totally agree there Phil!! its all in the name of a good laugh :grin: :grin:
Just wondering how long its going to be before you admit the R32 is better tho :tongue:
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R32.. :grin: ..yep, it's better.....better at losing you money and at keeping you on good terms with the wee hotty in the petrol station....
:laugh: :laugh:
:wink:
I still want one though...DSG/DBP/satnav/sunroof/cruise/highline/leather/recaros/... :cool:
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i want one too, a blue one with the silver grill in matt black :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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R32.. :grin: ..yep, it's better.....better at losing you money and at keeping you on good terms with the wee hotty in the petrol station....
:laugh: :laugh:
:wink:
I still want one though...DSG/DBP/satnav/sunroof/cruise/highline/leather/recaros/... :cool:
:evil: In her words... "what car is that because its sooo sexy" :wink:
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the edition 30 will always win cause the r32 will have to stop for fuel !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :grin: 11 mpg ouch ! nice cars though :smiley:
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seems to me Phil you want quote official figures when it suits you(bhp) and unofficial other times(performance figures) not sure you can have it both ways. :smiley:
I had a run against an R32 in my ED30 in damp conditions and I couldn't live with it at all, but when we got up onto the m/way it was a different story :smiley: did sound mint though.
I think the R32's are crackin value for money at the minute, don't stop the GTi's being crackin cars though :laugh:
Are you trying to dangle a juicy worm in front of me Gaz???? sorry im not hungry :wink:
Im not getting involved like you want me too, i know which is better in the Real world but your just have to use your imagination :smiley:
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Yes this is all in good humour but some think different :sad:. It would be a very boring place to visit if there wasnt any banter of "Whos's
cock crows loudest". You dont get Dailey endings like these in eastenders do you!! :smiley:
Totally agree there Phil!! its all in the name of a good laugh :grin: :grin:
Just wondering how long its going to be before you admit the R32 is better tho :tongue:
If a Models Better, i would of bought one in the 1st place :wink: , we each enjoy our cars for different reasons. Anyone else?????????. Gaz 1st now you
lol :grin:.
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If a Models Better, i would of bought one in the 1st place
Ditto! It was a very close call for me, but the R just pipped it. But different strokes for different folks and all that.
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if everyone was the same, then wed all be very boring! :smiley:
edit: Oh and std gti is the best!! :tongue:
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Yes this is all in good humour but some think different :sad:. It would be a very boring place to visit if there wasnt any banter of "Whos's
cock crows loudest". You dont get Dailey endings like these in eastenders do you!! :smiley:
Totally agree there Phil!! its all in the name of a good laugh :grin: :grin:
Just wondering how long its going to be before you admit the R32 is better tho :tongue:
If a Models Better, i would of bought one in the 1st place :wink: , we each enjoy our cars for different reasons. Anyone else?????????. Gaz 1st now you
lol :grin:.
:rolleyes: thinks back to when there was "no point in the Ed30" :grin: :tongue:
I guess I am just waiting for you to change your mind again..... and move up to the R32! (89.9 pence unleaded at the mo :smiley:)
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Yes this is all in good humour but some think different :sad:. It would be a very boring place to visit if there wasnt any banter of "Whos's
cock crows loudest". You dont get Dailey endings like these in eastenders do you!! :smiley:
Totally agree there Phil!! its all in the name of a good laugh :grin: :grin:
Just wondering how long its going to be before you admit the R32 is better tho :tongue:
If a Models Better, i would of bought one in the 1st place :wink: , we each enjoy our cars for different reasons. Anyone else?????????. Gaz 1st now you
lol :grin:.
:rolleyes: thinks back to when there was "no point in the Ed30" :grin: :tongue:
Yawn :rolleyes:Yes this is all in good humour but some think different :sad:. It would be a very boring place to visit if there wasnt any banter of "Whos's
cock crows loudest". You dont get Dailey endings like these in eastenders do you!! :smiley:
Totally agree there Phil!! its all in the name of a good laugh :grin: :grin:
Just wondering how long its going to be before you admit the R32 is better tho :tongue:
If a Models Better, i would of bought one in the 1st place :wink: , we each enjoy our cars for different reasons. Anyone else?????????. Gaz 1st now you
lol :grin:.
I guess I am just waiting for you to change your mind again..... and move up to the R32! (89.9 pence unleaded at the mo :smiley:)
You think im mad aswell as stupid! :lipsrsealed:
Your right with the price of unleaded though, £53 to get 350 wonderful miles in the GTi :wink:
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seems to me Phil you want quote official figures when it suits you(bhp) and unofficial other times(performance figures) not sure you can have it both ways. :smiley:
I had a run against an R32 in my ED30 in damp conditions and I couldn't live with it at all, but when we got up onto the m/way it was a different story :smiley: did sound mint though.
I think the R32's are crackin value for money at the minute, don't stop the GTi's being crackin cars though :laugh:
Are you trying to dangle a juicy worm in front of me Gaz???? sorry im not hungry :wink:
Im not getting involved like you want me too, i know which is better in the Real world but your just have to use your imagination :smiley:
Not at all Steve, just an observation
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Personally the appeal of the r32 to me was destroyed when they changed the wheels, made it look like a v average car. I know it's easily changeable but it would have been another expense and personally I like my cars to have a factory look.
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Personally the appeal of the r32 to me was destroyed when they changed the wheels, made it look like a v average car. I know it's easily changeable but it would have been another expense and personally I like my cars to have a factory look.
Talking about mine :cry:
The Zolders were supposed to be a total nightmare to clean... :nerd:
I dont actually mind the wheels tbh. The only time I see them is when I get out. I did think about removing the centre caps which make them look alot nicer... but couldnt be ar$ed in the end
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The zolders are a nightmare to clean....and I rarely get above 300 miles to the tank these days...well since i fell out with my Revo dealer and got them to remove stage one that is...... :cry: I am sure the bar stewards screwed the settings to mess with me. :cry:
So I have the wheels that are hard to clean AND the crap economy and none of the lovely sound track.... two of the reasons why I actually want an r32 just now. :grin: :grin:
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i have a 3 door, its a bit of a pain really with kids, they struggle to get in the back, then you need to get someone to shut the door...perhaps its just me being lazy but i cant be arsed getting out and walking round the car to shut the door behind them...i mean snot like they are a new girlfriend or anything ... :laugh: :laugh:
looks great in 3 doors though. sounds an ok deal mate...though there were reports of 07's for that kind of money around, also 08's at under 17k....
check out http://www.freecarvaluations.co.uk/ (http://www.freecarvaluations.co.uk/)
and stick in the reg plate and the mileage....see what you get and how far off your stealer is
Just tried the web site and i got this - http://www.freecarvaluations.co.uk/car-valuation-209472.htm :embarassed: Has the bottom dropped altogether?
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in a word....YES :cry: :cry: :cry:
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£17k retail isn't bad for my car with its 23k miles on the clock - considering the dire state of the market
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Typed the reg of my old R32 in there and it refused to give a valuation even though it identified the car :shocked:
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^^^^well it has my old one.try not leaving any spaces in between reg number.if its still not working could have been written off or something or is it a import
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Wow.. £15895 is what mines worth with 20k on the clock!! Had I bought it new I would have lost approx £12.5k in just over a year :embarassed:
Not to mention over 1k on insurance + 3.5k on juice
Thats 17k in one year of ownership.... thank god I didnt go down that route :smug:
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That website makes for some depressing reading :(
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That website makes for some depressing reading :(
Only if your trying to sell :afro:
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Or if you bought one 6 months ago and seen how much your paid compared to what that website is telling me its worth now :(
Im just being a fussy git. Iv got two and half happy years with my Golf ahead of me :)
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Or if you bought one 6 months ago and seen how much your paid compared to what that website is telling me its worth now :(
Im just being a fussy git. Iv got two and half happy years with my Golf ahead of me :)
Exactly!! We should all be looking at we do have rather than what we do not :wink:
Loads of people out there will now be able to afford a Mk5 Golf.... and see what they have been missing out on for so long :grin:
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Wow.. £15895 is what mines worth with 20k on the clock!! Had I bought it new I would have lost approx £12.5k in just over a year :embarassed:
Not to mention over 1k on insurance + 3.5k on juice
Thats 17k in one year of ownership.... thank god I didnt go down that route :smug:
So your car was £28,385 without leather My 55 reg was £23785 on the road back in november 05 thats value at just under 12k trading in.about 50% of original value after 3 years.Not bad considering these times,try getting 30-40% of original value of yer Vauxhalls and Fords. Whats with all this doom and gloom :smiley:
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Wow.. £15895 is what mines worth with 20k on the clock!! Had I bought it new I would have lost approx £12.5k in just over a year :embarassed:
Not to mention over 1k on insurance + 3.5k on juice
Thats 17k in one year of ownership.... thank god I didnt go down that route :smug:
So your car was £28,385 without leather My 55 reg was £23785 on the road back in november 05 thats value at just under 12k trading in.about 50% of original value after 3 years.Not bad considering these times,try getting 30-40% of original value of yer Vauxhalls and Fords. Whats with all this doom and gloom :smiley:
That was the trade price I was refering to. tbh I cant see prices dropping any further and over the next few years will probably average out to about the same. Just be glad you aint got a Ford or a Vauxhall!
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Wow.. £15895 is what mines worth with 20k on the clock!! Had I bought it new I would have lost approx £12.5k in just over a year :embarassed:
Not to mention over 1k on insurance + 3.5k on juice
Thats 17k in one year of ownership.... thank god I didnt go down that route :smug:
So your car was £28,385 without leather My 55 reg was £23785 on the road back in november 05 thats value at just under 12k trading in.about 50% of original value after 3 years.Not bad considering these times,try getting 30-40% of original value of yer Vauxhalls and Fords. Whats with all this doom and gloom :smiley:
That was the trade price I was refering to. tbh I cant see prices dropping any further and over the next few years will probably average out to about the same. Just be glad you aint got a Ford or a Vauxhall!
Must be getting wires crossed ea. £15895 + 12.5k =£28,385 or did you mean retail? If so my old one is coming up £14,795 which makes it even better
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^^^^^Just typed in a 57 reg with 20k miles-
trade £15350 + 12.5k =£27850
retail £18750 + 12.5k =£31250
How would you have lost 12.5k on a no frills bog standard r32
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Wow.. £15895 is what mines worth with 20k on the clock!! Had I bought it new I would have lost approx £12.5k in just over a year :embarassed:
Not to mention over 1k on insurance + 3.5k on juice
Thats 17k in one year of ownership.... thank god I didnt go down that route :smug:
So your car was £28,385 without leather My 55 reg was £23785 on the road back in november 05 thats value at just under 12k trading in.about 50% of original value after 3 years.Not bad considering these times,try getting 30-40% of original value of yer Vauxhalls and Fords. Whats with all this doom and gloom :smiley:
That was the trade price I was refering to. tbh I cant see prices dropping any further and over the next few years will probably average out to about the same. Just be glad you aint got a Ford or a Vauxhall!
Must be getting wires crossed ea. £15895 + 12.5k =£28,385 or did you mean retail? If so my old one is coming up £14,795 which makes it even better
Sorry I meant the vaule now is £15895 trade. Retail was around 28k I think... although Im not 100% sure as I didnt pay that figure. Its a 57 plate with winter pack, ipod in armrest, and RNS510 which was added later
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^^^^^Just typed in a 57 reg with 20k miles-
trade £15350 + 12.5k =£27850
retail £18750 + 12.5k =£31250
How would you have lost 12.5k on a no frills bog standard r32
12.5k + 15.5k = 28k
I havent lost anything... thats just what the car valuation thingy is stating.
What do you mean by no frills bog standard?? It has everything I want... there isnt much else you could add to it
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it was proberly just under 25k.Either way it aint a bad car to be stuck with :smiley:(not that you would be stuck with a R32 theirs always a buyer if priced sensibly)
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it was proberly just under 25k.Either way it aint a bad car to be stuck with :smiley:(not that you would be stuck with a R32 theirs always a buyer if priced sensibly)
Ahh ok. tbh I didnt really look at the list price but from what the hand written sheet the dealer passed on to me he said it was 28k or just short of if I remember. I wasnt too concerned at the time as mine was on a lease so it didnt apply. He probably just tried to spice up the figures to make it sound like a better deal..... Either way all he did was shaft himself :grin:
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^^^ or shaft your company by making the figures seem way better to lease one :grin:
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^^^ or shaft your company by making the figures seem way better to lease one :grin:
My company..... So on this occassion no. But I shall bear that in mind for the future :wink:
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^^^^^Just typed in a 57 reg with 20k miles-
trade £15350 + 12.5k =£27850
retail £18750 + 12.5k =£31250
How would you have lost 12.5k on a no frills bog standard r32
12.5k + 15.5k = 28k
I havent lost anything... thats just what the car valuation thingy is stating.
What do you mean by no frills bog standard?? It has everything I want... there isnt much else you could add to it
I just mean with no options,no offence ment. I have heard road tax might be cut so R32s might go back up in price :smiley: i wont hold my breath but you never know
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^^^^^Just typed in a 57 reg with 20k miles-
trade £15350 + 12.5k =£27850
retail £18750 + 12.5k =£31250
How would you have lost 12.5k on a no frills bog standard r32
12.5k + 15.5k = 28k
I havent lost anything... thats just what the car valuation thingy is stating.
What do you mean by no frills bog standard?? It has everything I want... there isnt much else you could add to it
I just mean with no options,no offence ment. I have heard road tax might be cut so R32s might go back up in price :smiley: i wont hold my breath but you never know
thank fully I dont pay the tax either! :smiley:
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well after a lot of debating and shopping around I have just purchased an R32 :grin:
Thanks Topher you were a big help in helping comvince me :wink:
Pick her up next week, cant wait :laugh:
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well after a lot of debating and shopping around I have just purchased an R32 :grin:
Thanks Topher you were a big help in helping comvince me :wink:
Pick her up next week, cant wait :laugh:
Congrats!! :)
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Congratulations on your new purchase. Remember to do the honourable thing and post some pics asap!!!
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Well done mate...was it the Tornado Red one from Motorpoint? What a deal that was! :laugh:
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Well done mate!!!! Welcome to the (slightly more exclusive) R32 club :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Congrats mate. Very :cool: car
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Congratulations mate. Get some pics up ASAP :wink:
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Will put pics up when i get her next week :smiley:
She is a 2008 57 plate R32, 5 door, Deep pearl blue, Full leather, uprated stereo, armrest, 7000 miles from a VW dealer for an unbelievable price! :cool: Have a guess......
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Well done mate!!!! Welcome to the (slightly more exclusive) R32 club :grin: :grin: :grin:
Cheers pal :smiley: Do you know of any good "exclusive" forums for more "exclusive" cars :wink:
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Will put pics up when i get her next week :smiley:
She is a 2008 57 plate R32, 5 door, Deep pearl blue, Full leather, uprated stereo, armrest, 7000 miles from a VW dealer for an unbelievable price! :cool: Have a guess......
Somewhere in between the £15-£16k price bracket?
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From a VW dealer I am thinking 19k ??? privately nearer Edition30's.
Some of the stealership twits still think that they can sell these at £24k.....some are still in complete denial.
A local independent near me is selling a similar spec 56 (06) spec DSG for £16,990 which I think is about £2-3k over priced.
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Well done mate!!!! Welcome to the (slightly more exclusive) R32 club :grin: :grin: :grin:
Cheers pal :smiley: Do you know of any good "exclusive" forums for more "exclusive" cars :wink:
Yeah there is a few around... but its more fun hanging here with the (less exclusive) Gti boys. More of them to poke fun at you see :tongue: :grin:
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*poke poke* 20MPG *poke poke* £400 tax ! :D
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*poke poke* 20MPG *poke poke* £400 tax ! :D
*laugh* *laugh* dont pay road tax.. *laugh* get 300miles to a full tank and dont have to put in the expensive stuff :tongue:
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*poke poke* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I will let you off this time because yours is in the best colour. Count yourself lucky ;)
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*poke poke* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I will let you off this time because yours is in the best colour. Count yourself lucky ;)
Cheers Alan!!! :wink:
Too much love in the Gti :cool: :grin:
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We try and keep the love here in the MK5 den of man love. The rest of the forum however is on some sort of hate campaign :(
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I blame John Sargent :grin: or Jon Woss or that hairy bloke he tore into Manuel with....
Who is he anyway and WTF is that programme that he was in :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
cough cough he torted in a manly kind of way. :lipsrsealed:
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We try and keep the love here in the MK5 den of man love. The rest of the forum however is on some sort of hate campaign :(
Hate/jealousy.... its all the same :laugh:
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From a VW dealer I am thinking 19k ??? privately nearer Edition30's.
Some of the stealership twits still think that they can sell these at £24k.....some are still in complete denial.
A local independent near me is selling a similar spec 56 (06) spec DSG for £16,990 which I think is about £2-3k over priced.
£17k which i thought was a great price :smiley:
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Well done mate!!!! Welcome to the (slightly more exclusive) R32 club :grin: :grin: :grin:
Cheers pal :smiley: Do you know of any good "exclusive" forums for more "exclusive" cars :wink:
R32oc.com is great for info and has a nice bunch of lads on there.. you still have to post pics on here first though :grin:
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"a 2008 57 plate R32, 5 door, Deep pearl blue, Full leather, uprated stereo, armrest, 7000 miles from a VW dealer"
well done mate, sounds like a great deal, manual or DSG? guess it manual else you would have said, still brill though :)
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"a 2008 57 plate R32, 5 door, Deep pearl blue, Full leather, uprated stereo, armrest, 7000 miles from a VW dealer"
well done mate, sounds like a great deal, manual or DSG? guess it manual else you would have said, still brill though :)
Manual, Like the thought of DSG but the novelty will wear off after a while. Not tried it though, you never know, might change it after I've tried it :smiley:
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Like the thought of DSG but the novelty will wear off after a while.
oh you are so wrong on that one, 2 years having DSG cars and still get a thrill from having one with.
Well done for buying such a Bargain :wink:
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Well had my R32 just over a month now and going back to the topic I am averaging 22.4 mpg, which is mainly motorway miles. This is less than I was hoping for but I am loving the car soooo much! And petrol has come down so costs just over £40 to fill her up! :smiley:
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Good to hear your enjoying it. 22mpg with mainly motorway driving . . ouch !
3.2 V6 so you cant really complain :D (not that you are btw)
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Well had my R32 just over a month now and going back to the topic I am averaging 22.4 mpg, which is mainly motorway miles. This is less than I was hoping for but I am loving the car soooo much! And petrol has come down so costs just over £40 to fill her up! :smiley:
I get 28-30mpg on my R32 on the motorway... and its only got 1300 miles on the clock. Around town I get 22-26mpg. Bought it with 37 miles on the clock.
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Well had my R32 just over a month now and going back to the topic I am averaging 22.4 mpg, which is mainly motorway miles. This is less than I was hoping for but I am loving the car soooo much! And petrol has come down so costs just over £40 to fill her up! :smiley:
That is a little low tbh. I tried sticking to about 70-80 over a 2hr journey and still get 31-33mpg!
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Have any of you ever seen an R32 with red stiching on the leather seats????...I searched autotrader today and there was an 08 red r32, manual, for 16.9k. I called, it was sold already :cry: never seen one with red stitching in the leather......apparently it was a demo of the VW dealer in Huddersfield...its NOT an import.
They were taken over recently and the new owner slashed prices all over the place.
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg277/nogolfclubsatall/media.jpg)
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Well had my R32 just over a month now and going back to the topic I am averaging 22.4 mpg, which is mainly motorway miles. This is less than I was hoping for but I am loving the car soooo much! And petrol has come down so costs just over £40 to fill her up! :smiley:
That is a little low tbh. I tried sticking to about 70-80 over a 2hr journey and still get 31-33mpg!
That sounds about right. My engine is still very very tight so uses more fuel, but I'd expect those figures after 10k miles.
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Going a little bit off topic but since getting my car remapped I have noticed a big drop in motorway MPG. Doing 80 or so I now get 32-33 where as before I was easily gettin 37-38. Town driving and the like is the same and I regualrly get 30 on my way into work and thats with a bit of traffic. Anyone else seen their motorway MPG suffer after a remap?
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Going a little bit off topic but since getting my car remapped I have noticed a big drop in motorway MPG. Doing 80 or so I now get 32-33 where as before I was easily gettin 37-38. Town driving and the like is the same and I regualrly get 30 on my way into work and thats with a bit of traffic. Anyone else seen their motorway MPG suffer after a remap?
My mpg changed after my Stage 1 Revo remap. I got 35mpg on my Edition 30 regularly after that as I found that I could be very gentle on the throttle and still cruise at 70-80mph. Before the remap I would get 32-33mpg. No disrespect to RTech as I have only heard very good things about them, but this is one reason why I stuck to an established tuner like Revo. I don't trust the figures after the Stage 2 remap as I had an aftermarket fuel pump installed which might distort the readings.
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I am averaging 22.4 mpg, which is mainly motorway miles. This is less than I was hoping for but I am loving the car soooo much! And petrol has come down so costs just over £40 to fill her up! :smiley:
My R32's averaging 23.59 mpg with quite a lot of town driving ... get around 26/27mpg on the motorway
....Iv'e clocked up 1500 miles now and the car feels a fair bit faster than new :evil:
My ED30 averaged 27.36 and my previous standard GTi 28.9mpg, so a good comparison for all three :nerd:
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I am averaging 22.4 mpg, which is mainly motorway miles. This is less than I was hoping for but I am loving the car soooo much! And petrol has come down so costs just over £40 to fill her up! :smiley:
My R32's averaging 23.59 mpg with quite a lot of town driving ... get around 26/27mpg on the motorway
....Iv'e clocked up 1500 miles now and the car feels a fair bit faster than new :evil:
My ED30 averaged 27.36 and my previous standard GTi 28.9mpg, so a good comparison for all three :nerd:
yes thats virtually what im getting and have got on all 3 same models, igot 1500 miles on mine aswell :nerd: from my experience r32 should get a fair bit better with a few more 1000's on. P.s this r32 i got now feels quicker than my previous one and nowhere near loosened up yet, did they update power at all to 265bhp at the same time as the audi a4 3.2 ?
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Just got mine back from 1st service and it feels totally different! Much smoother and dare I say much faster too. I know for a fact that if this were my car to keep then I would definately have the servicing switched to time and distance rather than longlife.
Esp as the service light first came on at about 11k miles (dealer had it on wrong setting) but I have just had it serviced at 21k.
Not too sure about the 265ps thing... but I have heard a few rumours :lipsrsealed:
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My 22.4mpg is doing about 50 miles on motorway (a fair bit of stop start on the M60/M61 :cry:) and 5 miles a roads not really done a long motorway journey but hope to do one soon :smiley:
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My 07 Mk5 GTi does about 30mpg on the motorway and about 25ish round town. I've never been too impressed with my MPG to be honest, but I'm not really that bothered. I had a 3.2 TT before that and it actually was a similar economy. Only bonus is now, with a tank down to about £46 for Super then its not hitting the pocket as much.
I nearly bought a brand new R32 from a VW dealer the other day, but the part ex they offered on mine was an insult to say the least. So I had to walk away. I was in having a replacement stereo fitted and their was this DBP model in there....wow...I'd have sold the wife ;-)
I'm am gonna stick my GTi up for sale in the next few days, as I have a new job which will mean higher miles (than my current 25k a year) so thinking about changing for a diesel. Gonna break my heart...:-( Car market is pretty crap at the moment though.
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These stealers really need to start to get real in the current climate, they cannot continue to squeeze money out of the trade-in's and make a huge profit on the car they are selling (particularly when it is a nearly new second hand car...which they have also screwed money from the previous seller on :angry:).
Wh|t3R@bb|t if you sold your car to that stealing robbing barsteward..what sticky white digits do you think they would have put on your car on the forecourt? :sick:
I have had my eyes on an R32 up here for a while..dickhead wants to make 3k on my car and at least 4k on the one I want to buy....7k (ish)....now...come on...give me what i want, and I will pay you my car plus 5k? No....says the dealer,....i will just keep this car on the forecourt and let it depreciate further and eventually have to stick it into the auction house.
They will get what is coming to them big style and I for one will probably not stop laughing. :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Wh|t3R@bb|t if you sold your car to that stealing robbing barsteward..what sticky white digits do you think they would have put on your car on the forecourt? :sick:
I have had my eyes on an R32 up here for a while..dickhead wants to make 3k on my car and at least 4k on the one I want to buy....7k (ish)....now...come on...give me what i want, and I will pay you my car plus 5k? No....says the dealer,....i will just keep this car on the forecourt and let it depreciate further and eventually have to stick it into the auction house.
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Without crashing the thread too much....
Its very true mate...and thats the annoying thing. In the sales guys defence, he was really f**ked off as he wanted the deal. I basically said give me £14ish for mine and I'll give you the difference in cash. He said...sounds great...leave it with me....
Rang me about 1hr later and said he can only offer between....wait for it...you'll love this....between £10.5 and 12k for mine. (07 GTi, DSG, 20k, Leather, Cruise, 18's etc). He was livid. He says his trade in prices are dictated by their "buying group" which he can't adjust. And he'd already knocked 2.5k off the R32. He really wanted the deal. And he said he'd already been told they'd stick my car straight on the forecourt for between £15-£16K. Why is it so much effort to buy a car nowadays...especially for us cash buyers :-(
Worst of all, he'd spent an hour telling me how well they had done in between Xmas and New Year..they sold 6 cars in 3 days and then 7 cars in one day on the 2nd. SO they're obviously trading well...so why then give such crap trade in values if they know they're selling?
So know...will probably sell the Gti and buy a boring A3 Diesel :-(
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dealers simply dont have the cash to offer us for part ex's thats why.Depreciation hasnt changed if you sell privately. Dealers just haven't got the cash so hense all of a sudden, trade in deals are a waste of time at car dealerships.
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Audi 170 derv with S-Line kit is NOT boring and a nice motor if you got the money :)
(http://www.speedsportlife.com/photopost/data/857/medium/291105aud.jpg)
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Audi 170 derv with S-Line kit is NOT boring and a nice motor if you got the money :)
(http://www.speedsportlife.com/photopost/data/857/medium/291105aud.jpg)
one thing wrong with that, it sounds like a tractor............. :sick: horrid derve burner
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dealers simply dont have the cash to offer us for part ex's. thats why.depreciation hasnt changed if you sell privately. dealers just have got the cash so hense all of a sudden, trade in deals are a waste of time.
this is exactly what i have found when i was planning to treade in mine for an ED30, i gave up in the end as the prices offered against mine were silly but, thats how the market place is at the mo.
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Oh dont get me wrong ! But if the man is FORCED to go diesel, then Id say thats a pretty tidy choice :)
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what about this then, i luv it and in this colour of course! :drool: :drool:
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r313/blue_cookiemonster_bucket/AUDITT_384_448186a.jpg)
offers good performance aswell from the write-up!
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Bloody lovely that...and I've read a few reviews and they seem to like it...pleased its Quattro too.
My 3.2 TT was great fun but i've said for years that my ideal car would be a TT Diesel...so I suppose I should get one now there is on. Bit steep though at 26k because by the time you've added everything (joys of Audi's & BM's) it'll be closer to £30k.
I do like the 170 A3 Diesels....very tempted....but the more I look at my car on the drive, I really love it. I wish my mrs shared my love of the brilliance of Golfs in Gti and R32 forms.....she really hates it (however she loves her Cooper S Convertible).
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Bloody lovely that...and I've read a few reviews and they seem to like it...pleased its Quattro too.
My 3.2 TT was great fun but i've said for years that my ideal car would be a TT Diesel...so I suppose I should get one now there is on. Bit steep though at 26k because by the time you've added everything (joys of Audi's & BM's) it'll be closer to £30k.
I do like the 170 A3 Diesels....very tempted....but the more I look at my car on the drive, I really love it. I wish my mrs shared my love of the brilliance of Golfs in Gti and R32 forms.....she really hates it (however she loves her Cooper S Convertible).
Easy said than done I know but tell her tough sh!t, is she paying for it? (I hope you reply with no lol)
The joys of being a single 21 year old :D
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White rabbit (sorry on iPhone) can't cut and paste :-(
That is truely shocking! Dealers are going to get it up the poop shoot very soon unless they change mate, you were lucky you don't need to change, imagine the poor unfortunate made redundant and who has to sell. Sod dealers sell and buy private.... But be prepared to sell for 1k above dealer.
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No probs Clubs...you just showing off with your fancy iPhone ;-) Again...something else I want, but need to be on Orange so its a no...New HTC Touch HD for me ;-)
We seem to be going off topic, but what you reckon my car is worth privately? So I know what budget I can think of for the new car.
2007 (May 07) Black GTI
DSG
24k with FMDSH (10k, 20k)
Full Leather (with Winter Pack)
Cruise Control
18" Monza II's
RCD 500 MP3 (6CD Changer) (Brand New...replaced under warranty this week)
Parrot LS-3200 Bluetooth
?!?!
Mods: Feel free to split the topic?
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Just been on Autotrader and judging by the prices there, I think your dealer was offering you a fair trade price. Privately, I wouldn't pay more than £13k for your spec if that. Take a look:
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+GOLF/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-40-63-143-240-4294966995-4294967159/search.action?&keywords=gti+leather&sort=p_VehiclePrice&postcode=ip5+2bs&radius=1500&showMoreOptions=&page=2
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Wh|t3R@bb|t £10.5k is a total and utter insult. £12k is pretty much what you should expect from a trader I would reckon, with a little more for private (why I dont know)...anyway, thats another discussion for somewhere else.
Dealers have to start to accept, particularly against used cars, that they cannot make as much money on both ends of the deal. Else we will just hold onto our cars and not buy, their stock will rust and depreciate further and they will all go hungry.
There are not the same margins in a new car.
Now, just imagine the scenario where you trade your car in for that new R, you get 10.5k! :sick: I come along the next day to the stealers, its up on the forecourt for £15k, I ask for a trade in price on my 05 (55) my06, FULLY loaded DSG GTI and get offered say £9k....a balance to change of £4.5k..... :sick: I am thick :rolleyes: so I accept it....the next day the stealer sticks my car on his forecourt and slaps £12.5k on the windscreen....in total (gross) he wants to make £8000 on the deal! lol...
Of course...I am not quite as thick as I made out above :rolleyes: (though some people do pay sticker) and no way do I accept either price...so keep my car, walk away..a lose lose scenario. IF the tosser had not insulted me and offered a me a reasonable price to change then he would have had a sale, proved revenue on his books and kept trading, albeit with less profit than he would like....This is actually the position I am in now with a car locally, correct spec, dealer wont accept that he needs to make less profit on it....lol...the car has been on his forecourt now for 4 months...and I am waiting until he has to take it to auction and may buy it on the day for £11k ....drive up to his forecourt and moon at the twit :evil: (in reality I am not interested in it now as it is another calendar year and the car was a 2006, so he can just sod off lol :smug:).
It has ALWAYS been this way, but in these times unless they give a bit, they will not be in business for long.
Wh|t3R@bb|t If I were in the market for a newer GTI I would offer you £12.5k today for it, however its an R32 I have my heart set on....although I would have to move my beauty on first.
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£12k trade price was good. I'd agree that with him and try and hammer him on the R32 price... or sell privately for £12.5 for a quick sale or £13k if you're willing to wait.
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Wow, I must be telepathic or something. I didn't read you valuation of £12.5 No Golf Clubs... £12.5k would be a good deal for anyone though. BTW, anything under £12k is an insult.