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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: MAT ed30 on 29 October 2008, 19:54
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have a look at this :cry:
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=193416
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Poor lad. That is really bad of Seat. I can see where they are coming from to an extent, but you would have thought that they would have some f*cking heart!!!!!!
Lets just hope that the same does not happen with any of us! :smiley:
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Surely what Seat are doing is denying him of his own personal rights to modify a vehicle?!?!??
Or is it because he had outstanding finance on the car that the modifications breach that contract, and therefore if he cannot pay it, they have to declare the car as their property?
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Poor lad. That is really bad of Seat. I can see where they are coming from to an extent, but you would have thought that they would have some f*cking heart!!!!!!
Lets just hope that the same does not happen with any of us! :smiley:
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i was thinking what to put but you did it for me :smiley:
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oh dear, lets hope this is a one off :shocked:, so does this mean all Hp cars or Lease Companys may do this?
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oh dear, lets hope this is a one off :shocked:, so does this mean all Hp cars or Lease Companys may do this?
i would say so yes, Reading of small print is quite important sometimes :undecided:
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feel for him. :sad:
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oh dear, lets hope this is a one off :shocked:, so does this mean all Hp cars or Lease Companys may do this?
....I'm afraid that you are likely to find that they are totally within their rights as you don't actually own the car - You are leasing it and it remains their property until the arrangement is completed. It's fair enough that they have a say in what you do to their property and how you affect it's value.
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i feel sorry for the guy with the seat cupra, seems abit harsh.
If mine was leased and Modded, id be abit concered..
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At the mo my car is on finance too but I intend on paying it back sooner so I can own outright. Hence no mods on the car until then, which'll hopefully be in 10-12 months time.
I've heard of some dealers not twitching when Revo remaps have been mentioned. Is VWUK likely to be in the same boat as SEAT uk? Especially given that they're all part of VAG?
This is also one of the reasons I had against buying a mkv. If I bought a mkiv GTI, I could get it serviced locally for a cheaper rate and still be able to modify it without hassle.
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i feel sorry for the guy with the seat cupra, seems abit harsh.
If mine was leased and Modded, id be abit concered..
....I feel sorry for him too but I wouldn't mod a leased vehicle without first being very sure of the 'small print'. I can see the other point of view (often my problem!).
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At the mo my car is on finance too but I intend on paying it back sooner so I can own outright. Hence no mods on the car until then, which'll hopefully be in 10-12 months time.
I've heard of some dealers not twitching when Revo remaps have been mentioned. Is VWUK likely to be in the same boat as SEAT uk? Especially given that they're all part of VAG?
This is also one of the reasons I had against buying a mkv. If I bought a mkiv GTI, I could get it serviced locally for a cheaper rate and still be able to modify it without hassle.
....I bought my car for cash outright, no mucking about, but I still discussed my wish to remap with my VW dealer before doing so. They asked who....I said Revo....and they said no problem. They have absolutely no problems about any of my other mods either - They have even fitted some of them! The only warranty issue they couldn't resolve was the white worm on my 18's and that was only because my car was registered with VW UK with 17's - They tried and I tried direct but we couldn't do anything about it.
Their attitude is that I'm a friendly and very understanding customer who is totally honest with them and they do all they can to support me and they really look after me well. If I published some of the stuff they've done to help me, I might get them into trouble!
VW UK can be very tricky though. The best way is not to rely on warranty income to solve any problems on your car. If you mod your car, think of a successful warranty claim as a bonus. There is one underlying legal principle in your favour and that is that the aftermarket modification has to be a direct cause of an issue; BUT, you pay first and argue to get your money back after!
I hope this helps!
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Whether it's in the contract or not, or whether it's legal or not, I think Seat have done themselves no favours at all with this. For the sake of what could be a very cheap repair, they have now got themselves some nasty publicity over on SCN and got the majority of members backs up IMO.. :sad:
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I've just posted over there. I feel sorry for the OP, but modding a car on finance is a big no no!
SEAT may not be totally to blame as they will most likely take action based upon the finance companies decision on the situation. SEAT's hand may have been forced?
We don't know for sure do we? :undecided:
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Whether it's in the contract or not, or whether it's legal or not, I think Seat have done themselves no favours at all with this. For the sake of what could be a very cheap repair, they have now got themselves some nasty publicity over on SCN and got the majority of members backs up IMO.. :sad:
....But what percentage of Seat owners modify their cars such that Seat are so bothered by some 'nasty' publicity on a car forum?
Businesses in the aftermarket industry will be bothered but I'm not sure that car manufacturers will be - It's beyond their commercial interests.
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Poor lad. That is really bad of Seat. I can see where they are coming from to an extent, but you would have thought that they would have some f*cking heart!!!!!!
Lets just hope that the same does not happen with any of us! :smiley:
what do you mean "have some fokin heart?" :huh: It's BUSINESS! You mode and they are supposed to spend their time and money on finding faults? :huh: I don't think so.
BTW, I have my car modded by Oettinger with 1y warranty. If something happens, I am as foked up as that guy, but I knew what I was doing. This guy also new, but he wanted to have his cake and eat it, too. Sorry, dude, reality is hard.
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i well be going stage 2 on my vxr next year through Regal Auto Sport, if they do the work they will give you a warenty on the work they carry out and the normal Vaux one covers the rest of the car. How come Revo dont offer this? :undecided:
still feel sorry for the guy, i bet a fair few people mod a car which is on finace as they fully intend to pay for the car in full. I can see that its an issue when something like this happens but he should have gone to the tuner who did the work on his car in the first place, a dealer would never like it unless it had fitted the parts.
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I expect revo would get to the bottom of it, but its the finance company that have DEMANDED THEIR car back or pay up the full ammount. Small print really cant bite your ass when it wants to.
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Poor lad. That is really bad of Seat. I can see where they are coming from to an extent, but you would have thought that they would have some f*cking heart!!!!!!
Lets just hope that the same does not happen with any of us! :smiley:
what do you mean "have some fokin heart?" :huh: It's BUSINESS! You mode and they are supposed to spend their time and money on finding faults? :huh: I don't think so.
BTW, I have my car modded by Oettinger with 1y warranty. If something happens, I am as foked up as that guy, but I knew what I was doing. This guy also new, but he wanted to have his cake and eat it, too. Sorry, dude, reality is hard.
Oh, I completely understand the logic behind it, but as mentioned by someone else above, there would have been slightly better/kinder ways to deal with the situation. Yes, i agree though, overall they are completely entitled to do what they have done with the car.
I guess sometimes you need luck on your side - which this guy doesn't have in this situation!!!
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They asked who....I said Revo....and they said no problem.
I think you've got a pretty special dealer there Robin....I've mentioned the whole Revo thing to four separate dealers (also separate ownerships, so e.g. not all from the Windrush chain), and none will give me the time of day about it.
If anyone else knows of a dealer that is OK with Revo, or any remap for that matter, then please do share....because I think its a very very rare thing!!!!!
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i well be going stage 2 on my vxr next year through Regal Auto Sport, if they do the work they will give you a warenty on the work they carry out and the normal Vaux one covers the rest of the car. How come Revo dont offer this? :undecided:
still feel sorry for the guy, i bet a fair few people mod a car which is on finace as they fully intend to pay for the car in full. I can see that its an issue when something like this happens but he should have gone to the tuner who did the work on his car in the first place, a dealer would never like it unless it had fitted the parts.
From what i read about the incident its not down to Revo either, the problems started after an intercooler install, perhaps something has got damaged on the install and now non of the systems can talk to the car ??
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My car is with VW finance on a PCP for 3 years (after which I will ow VW £6500 but Im just going to give the car back and get a new one). Does this mean they "own" my car until I have paid it off? I am getting her remaped soon :D :D :D :D and tbh I am probably still going to go ahead with this but just want to know out of interest.
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feel sorry for the guy
but doing any more to car than a reversible remap is taking too big a chance with warranties etc
I think what realy has happened is Seat took the hump after he contacted them and then dug their heals in regarding mods to an almost new car
If it was me i'd get a loan and settle the finance, there can't be anything that wrong with it.
Might be of relevance,
When getting my remap done I had a similar experience
during the 1st reflash of mine I had the ecu lock and the fans come on
The remapper said it was probably because the car had a Revo trial that had expired and if they knew that it could have been avoided
The car was then reflashed with a standard VAG map and then redone, no problems since
Also remember the car starting once and then not again, might just be coincidence
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When getting my remap done I had a similar experience
during the 1st reflash of mine I had the ecu lock and the fans come on
The remapper said it was probably because the car had a Revo trial that had expired and if they knew that it could have been avoided
The car was then reflashed with a standard VAG map and then redone, no problems since
....No, the problem would be because the Revo Trial had NOT expired yet - Their trial lasts for 5 hours before it 'self-destructs' and if you haven't completed those 5 hrs a 'residue' will remain and can screw things up until professionally replaced. The remapper wouldn't be able to see the presence of the Revo Trial. It's a known event.
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They asked who....I said Revo....and they said no problem.
I think you've got a pretty special dealer there Robin....I've mentioned the whole Revo thing to four separate dealers (also separate ownerships, so e.g. not all from the Windrush chain), and none will give me the time of day about it.
If anyone else knows of a dealer that is OK with Revo, or any remap for that matter, then please do share....because I think its a very very rare thing!!!!!
....To make it very clear - Whereas my dealer, VW Loders of Dorchester, will happily accept and work on a VW with a Revo remap, the same warranty rules will apply. According to what the workshop session is for, I will always switch to Stock for them. Their attitude is that you are a valued customer whose car they want to do all they can to maintain (it's good business sense) and the only issues are what costs can be recuperated or not from VW UK under warranty.
One of their staff is now an independent but approved Revo dealer (thanks to me!). This means that, for a small charge as is now usual with many Revo dealers (their choice, not Revo's), if the VW session updates your ECU and trashes the remap, it can be put back on with minimum inconvenience. [I need to double-check these details with them]
PM me if anyone wants a personal introduction - I don't recieve commission but it will add to my bank of goodwill and probably also help you.
I think that I got them to be open-minded about Revo partly due to Revo's good reputation with VAG and partly because they knew me personally as a friendly and good customer and they simply wanted to help - Good business sense again.
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i well be going stage 2 on my vxr next year through Regal Auto Sport, if they do the work they will give you a warenty on the work they carry out and the normal Vaux one covers the rest of the car. How come Revo dont offer this? :undecided:
....Revo dealers are totally independent from Revo - They can do as they feel fit providing that they work to Revo's standards and don't misrepresent them.
Revo don't really need to make warranty statements - They simply fully support their products providing they were bought legitimately. Revo have a reputation second to none for aftersales service and care. All that Regal are doing is shouting about what all reputable agents/dealers are supposed to offer anyway by law.
I can see that its an issue when something like this happens but he should have gone to the tuner who did the work on his car in the first place, a dealer would never like it unless it had fitted the parts.
....Generally true but not necessarily. I'm very lucky to say that my VW dealer will always do what they can to help. Obviously they won't take responsibility for a third party's work but will willingly work on it if asked - It's good business.
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When getting my remap done I had a similar experience
during the 1st reflash of mine I had the ecu lock and the fans come on
The remapper said it was probably because the car had a Revo trial that had expired and if they knew that it could have been avoided
The car was then reflashed with a standard VAG map and then redone, no problems since
....No, the problem would be because the Revo Trial had NOT expired yet - Their trial lasts for 5 hours before it 'self-destructs' and if you haven't completed those 5 hrs a 'residue' will remain and can screw things up until professionally replaced. The remapper wouldn't be able to see the presence of the Revo Trial. It's a known event.
I'm afraid Brian is right. After the 5 hours expire the modified map doesn't completely disappear. You're left with a locked out REVO version of a standard map. Any competent tuner can spot this and reflash to stock without problems though. There's nothing untoward in the method, it's just the only way it can be done without compromising their own software. If any problems occur down the line then VW simply reflash anyway. The more competent REVO dealers I've talked to actually make a point of telling their trial customers to return for a proper reflash once the 5 hours are up.
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RedRobin, i am not saying it might be because his trial expired
but it is certainly possible to be related to the remap and the alteratins done to it
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When getting my remap done I had a similar experience
during the 1st reflash of mine I had the ecu lock and the fans come on
The remapper said it was probably because the car had a Revo trial that had expired and if they knew that it could have been avoided
The car was then reflashed with a standard VAG map and then redone, no problems since
....No, the problem would be because the Revo Trial had NOT expired yet - Their trial lasts for 5 hours before it 'self-destructs' and if you haven't completed those 5 hrs a 'residue' will remain and can screw things up until professionally replaced. The remapper wouldn't be able to see the presence of the Revo Trial. It's a known event.
I'm afraid Brian is right. After the 5 hours expire the modified map doesn't completely disappear. You're left with a locked out REVO version of a standard map. Any competent tuner can spot this and reflash to stock without problems though. There's nothing untoward in the method, it's just the only way it can be done without compromising their own software. If any problems occur down the line then VW simply reflash anyway. The more competent REVO dealers I've talked to actually make a point of telling their trial customers to return for a proper reflash once the 5 hours are up.
....Ah, thanks for the correction. I knew that it's quite common for people with the Revo Trial not to always complete the 5 hrs and hence inadvertently create something to be rectified. People don't always follow the good advice they are given.
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I can see that its an issue when something like this happens but he should have gone to the tuner who did the work on his car in the first place, a dealer would never like it unless it had fitted the parts.
....Generally true but not necessarily. I'm very lucky to say that my VW dealer will always do what they can to help. Obviously they won't take responsibility for a third party's work but will willingly work on it if asked - It's good business.
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The chaps AA cover was part of his Seat deal so the AA insisted that it be towed to the dealer rather than the tunner which he requested but was denied.
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I can see that its an issue when something like this happens but he should have gone to the tuner who did the work on his car in the first place, a dealer would never like it unless it had fitted the parts.
....Generally true but not necessarily. I'm very lucky to say that my VW dealer will always do what they can to help. Obviously they won't take responsibility for a third party's work but will willingly work on it if asked - It's good business.
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The chaps AA cover was part of his Seat deal so the AA insisted that it be towed to the dealer rather than the tunner which he requested but was denied.
....Thank goodness my VW Assist would take to me to my VW dealer who have an approved Revo agent on their staff.
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There are a couple of points in this thread that I thought we should answer:
1. Revo software is warranted for life. As stated though this isn't a problem with the software, however we're helping VAG Tech do what they can to get to the bottom of it. Incidentally the ECU functions and can be communicated with out of the car!
2. In regards to Brians post about the tuner he used blaming Revo for their flash crashing out... it's not related to Revo at all. It's one of those things that happens if you have any loss in communication whilst flashing a car, some flashing equipment isn't always reliable and with comms in the car sometimes causing problems as well it's not unknown for people flashing cars to have problems. (we get a lot of companies calling us to help them in this scenario). In this case the ECU flash was interupted for some reason leaving the car in reflash mode (thus the fans running with the ignition on)...
3. ...following on from above! Revo trial software (or any of our software) doesn't lock other tuners out of the ECU. The problems occur if the tuner in question doesn't have the ability to write a complete factory file to the ECU before tuning it and only modify the flash memory. Trial code reverts to stock running and actually uses the stock maps, although not necessarily where another tuner would expect them to be... when they only read a limited area of the ECU it looks nothing like they expect it to. All Revo dealers have the ability to flash a complete stock file to any car we cater for.
We know of companies that say they can't write over Revo software even when they have the ability to! They're just trying all they can to throw mud at us!
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Thanks for stopping by to clear that up Kev :afro:
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welcome to the site Kev
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My car is with VW finance on a PCP for 3 years (after which I will ow VW £6500 but Im just going to give the car back and get a new one). Does this mean they "own" my car until I have paid it off? I am getting her remaped soon :D :D :D :D and tbh I am probably still going to go ahead with this but just want to know out of interest.
Yes, the finance company who loan you the money are the ones who legally own the car until you pay off the final balance. Until the very last payment you only "hire" the car from them.
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lol I drive a hire car :D
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thanks for clearing that up Kev
i wasn't taking it as gospel from the tuner that their explanation was true
and for the record I wasn't trying to reflect on your company any bad vibes
infact if I was closer to one of your more recognised agents i'd most certainly consider a Revo map
the good things said on here mainly about JKM makes me wish I stayed south of the border :smiley:
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I can see that its an issue when something like this happens but he should have gone to the tuner who did the work on his car in the first place, a dealer would never like it unless it had fitted the parts.
....Generally true but not necessarily. I'm very lucky to say that my VW dealer will always do what they can to help. Obviously they won't take responsibility for a third party's work but will willingly work on it if asked - It's good business.
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The chaps AA cover was part of his Seat deal so the AA insisted that it be towed to the dealer rather than the tunner which he requested but was denied.
....Thank goodness my VW Assist would take to me to my VW dealer who have an approved Revo agent on their staff.
your vw dealer must be the best in the country!! they seem to have everything and seem to do anything for you (even mods), whereas everyone else is stuck with cr@ppy service. which dealership is it??!! think i might have to get my next car from them :cool:
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i know my old seat dealer is very mod friendly and loved getting modded cupras in and are now putting superchips on the car if you want and also i know another seat dealer who puts revo on all his demo cars and tells people to put on :laugh:
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Just a quick update peeps...
VagTech have found the fault - It's a blown relay. This would now make it a SEAT issue to fix, had the guys at VagTech not replaced it and the car now starts ok. However, Seat have come back to me today and said they are standing by thier original decision, and will not accept the findings of a local garage as accurate, and will need the car re-tested by them at my own expense, even though this fault no longer exists.
No mention of re-instating any warranty, the breakdown cover or re-imbursting any expenses...
They still want the car back, and that is what will happen. I have spoken to David Johns and Julie Sinclair at Auto Express, who are both very keen to write an article on what's happened, so watch this space...
bloody dealer should check things and not just plug them in if you ask me :rolleyes:
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so why does he still want rid of the car?? :huh:
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so why does he still want rid of the car?? :huh:
deale wants it back for breach of contract i think
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so why does he still want rid of the car?? :huh:
deale wants it back for breach of contract i think
and he still has to pay the 4000 difference??? id have been in court by now if this was the case :angry:
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so why does he still want rid of the car?? :huh:
deale wants it back for breach of contract i think
and he still has to pay the 4000 difference??? id have been in court by now if this was the case :angry:
i think i would get a loan and pay the car off and then screw the dealer and and get vag tech to look after it service wise
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your vw dealer must be the best in the country!! they seem to have everything and seem to do anything for you (even mods), whereas everyone else is stuck with cr@ppy service. which dealership is it??!! think i might have to get my next car from them :cool:
....They are very good but of course no-one is perfect. You tend to hear about the bad ones and not so much about the good dealers.
I do make it easy to be good though - I'm very flexible, never in a hurry, and treat them all like human beings whoever they are in the company - We simply have a great relationship and they appreciate it.
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your vw dealer must be the best in the country!! they seem to have everything and seem to do anything for you (even mods), whereas everyone else is stuck with cr@ppy service. which dealership is it??!! think i might have to get my next car from them :cool:
....They are very good but of course no-one is perfect. You tend to hear about the bad ones and not so much about the good dealers.
I do make it easy to be good though - I'm very flexible, never in a hurry, and treat them all like human beings whoever they are in the company - We simply have a great relationship and they appreciate it.
who is it? which center?
and matt, has anybody suggested this to him?? id probably do the same, but id probs seek legal advise first :undecided:
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your vw dealer must be the best in the country!! they seem to have everything and seem to do anything for you (even mods), whereas everyone else is stuck with cr@ppy service. which dealership is it??!! think i might have to get my next car from them :cool:
....They are very good but of course no-one is perfect. You tend to hear about the bad ones and not so much about the good dealers.
I do make it easy to be good though - I'm very flexible, never in a hurry, and treat them all like human beings whoever they are in the company - We simply have a great relationship and they appreciate it.
who is it? which center?
....As I posted earlier - VW Loders of Dorchester.
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Joe, a car bought on finance remains the property of the financier until the last payment is made. 99.999% of contracts will have a clause built into them whereby it is the responsibility of the owner to keep the car in ORIGINAL condition and not modify it in ANY way.
I feel genuinely sorry for the guy, but SEAT or the financier are well withing their legal right to reclaim the car as the term/s of the contract will have been breached. Even the OP on SCN admits this.
It is "The worst case scenario" come true for him, but he must have known that this was a possibility (although a small one!) and most peeps want to think "there for the grace of god go I"
I still think he was very harshly dealt with, but no-one except him knows exactly what went on or if he inadvertantly aggravated the situation in any way :undecided:
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Joe, a car bought on finance remains the property of the financier until the last payment is made. 99.999% of contracts will have a clause built into them whereby it is the responsibility of the owner to keep the car in ORIGINAL condition and not modify it in ANY way.
I feel genuinely sorry for the guy, but SEAT or the financier are well withing their legal right to reclaim the car as the term/s of the contract will have been breached. Even the OP on SCN admits this.
It is "The worst case scenario" come true for him, but he must have known that this was a possibility (although a small one!) and most peeps want to think "there for the grace of god go I"
I still think he was very harshly dealt with, but no-one except him knows exactly what went on or if he inadvertantly aggravated the situation in any way :undecided:
so what would you do in this situation? :smiley:
i really cant believe that people who have cars on finance still mod, knowing that this could happen, i only just learnt this today, that you cant mod cars on finance :shocked: he will have lost a shed load of money now, possibly more than he could pick a mk1 lcr up for :shocked:
and there was me thinking id get an s3 on part finance next year....FOOOOK THAT.
OK another sinario.......what if the car was second hand? :smiley:
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Joe, a car bought on finance remains the property of the financier until the last payment is made. 99.999% of contracts will have a clause built into them whereby it is the responsibility of the owner to keep the car in ORIGINAL condition and not modify it in ANY way.
I feel genuinely sorry for the guy, but SEAT or the financier are well withing their legal right to reclaim the car as the term/s of the contract will have been breached. Even the OP on SCN admits this.
It is "The worst case scenario" come true for him, but he must have known that this was a possibility (although a small one!) and most peeps want to think "there for the grace of god go I"
I still think he was very harshly dealt with, but no-one except him knows exactly what went on or if he inadvertantly aggravated the situation in any way :undecided:
so what would you do in this situation? :smiley:
i really cant believe that people who have cars on finance still mod, knowing that this could happen, i only just learnt this today, that you cant mod cars on finance :shocked: he will have lost a shed load of money now, possibly more than he could pick a mk1 lcr up for :shocked:
and there was me thinking id get an s3 on part finance next year....FOOOOK THAT.
OK another sinario.......what if the car was second hand? :smiley:
I'm in a lucky position as to have paid cash + p/x for mine.
If I hadn't got the money to pay for it - but knew I wanted to modify it, I would take out a loan rather than car finance. With a loan, you will own the car, but owe the money.
If the car was second hand, but still on finance, you would have to prove that the modifications were there when the finance was taken out, otherwise the same clauses would stand. :nerd:
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My car is with VW finance on a PCP for 3 years (after which I will ow VW £6500 but Im just going to give the car back and get a new one). Does this mean they "own" my car until I have paid it off? I am getting her remaped soon :D :D :D :D and tbh I am probably still going to go ahead with this but just want to know out of interest.
That is exactly what it means.
If it is a lease then you do not build equity in your car, you pay for use and the interest.
BTW, when you "just give it back" they will charge you for all small things like scuffed (right word?) rims, scratches, etc.
They will probably also want original parts in the car, or at least they will not pay for extras you fit.
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lol I drive a hire car :D
you do.
ain't that something... :lipsrsealed:
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so why does he still want rid of the car?? :huh:
deale wants it back for breach of contract i think
and he still has to pay the 4000 difference??? id have been in court by now if this was the case :angry:
i think i would get a loan and pay the car off and then screw the dealer and and get vag tech to look after it service wise
I think you make sense. I'd do exactly that, as well.
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My car is with VW finance on a PCP for 3 years (after which I will ow VW £6500 but Im just going to give the car back and get a new one). Does this mean they "own" my car until I have paid it off? I am getting her remaped soon :D :D :D :D and tbh I am probably still going to go ahead with this but just want to know out of interest.
That is exactly what it means.
If it is a lease then you do not build equity in your car, you pay for use and the interest.
BTW, when you "just give it back" they will charge you for all small things like scuffed (right word?) rims, scratches, etc.
They will probably also want original parts in the car, or at least they will not pay for extras you fit.
I just think I should point that im not "leasing" the car. The car is finance with VW. At the end of the 3 years I ow VW £6500 for the car. I can either give them £6500 and that is the end of it. Or give them back the car (which I would like to think will be worth more than £6500 in 3 years) which settles the finance and I might even come out of it with positive equity in which case I get x ammount of my next VW or take the money and buy an S3. Im not debating the fact that i don't "own" it. I'm the one dirving it for 3 years so bollox lol
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I don't want to burst your bubble Alan, but I don't know of anyone who has managed to get any money back at the end of a PCP plan. There are plenty of sales reps I know who have been down this road and it is usually a barren rocky one. :undecided:
Has anyone on here ever had any money back from a PCP? - and I don't mean the old " if you take out another PCP/buy another car from us, we'll give you a bit towards it" ploy!
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I don't want to burst your bubble Alan, but I don't know of anyone who has managed to get any money back at the end of a PCP plan. There are plenty of sales reps I know who have been down this road and it is usually a barren rocky one. :undecided:
Has anyone on here ever had any money back from a PCP? - and I don't mean the old " if you take out another PCP/buy another car from us, we'll give you a bit towards it" ploy!
my fiesta zetec s was on a pcp plan and i sold the car private at the end and paid the loan company off. i came out with about £1500 after i had paid off the loan. i would imagine the golf to be more as i cant see it loosing as much value as the fiesta did (just over 5 grand in under two years)
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Yes, Newey, but you sold yours privately :wink: