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Title: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Pirelli_P on 27 October 2008, 11:33
I have got myself the OSIR front mask and I am having difficulties deciding how to attach it. I think I remember Joe saying he got his bonded on at a bodyshop, is it bonded over the current grill or did they take off the stock one to do it? I am going to take the number plate plinth off but im not sure what to do next.

Anyone have any ideas how i can attach the number plate without drilling through either the plate or the grill? I was thinking double sided tape but Chris (WhiteGTI) doesn't think the tape will be strong enough!

Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: WhiteGTI on 27 October 2008, 11:40
Now you're giving them all clues as to part of your modifications!!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 27 October 2008, 11:42
mine is bonded ontop of the original plate, i also had the problem of the plate, so i just left it off  :laugh:

(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd153/joesgti/9.jpg)

i took it to my mte who owns a bodyshop and he just "glued" it on for free, too about 5 hours to dry thow. as for the plate, you could get it printed as a sticker and stick it onto the cf bit. im not sure if it would look good thow  :undecided:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: WhiteGTI on 27 October 2008, 11:49
as for the plate, you could get it printed as a sticker and stick it onto the cf bit. im not sure if it would look good thow  :undecided:

Thats what I plan to do, as I think leaving the plate off completely isnt an option for where I live (Police are quite sh!tty about it). I don't think there is a decent looking way around it. Number plate re-location onto the bonnet looks cr@p IMO, and also re-location to underneath one of the headlights (providing you dont have headlamp wash) looks wayyy too lopsided. Fixing to the lower grille will inhibit cooling, and fixing to the lower grille so that it hangs down on the lower splitter looks like the car is sticking its front teeth out - not a good look AT ALL!!!

:undecided:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 27 October 2008, 12:09
as for the plate, you could get it printed as a sticker and stick it onto the cf bit. im not sure if it would look good thow  :undecided:

Thats what I plan to do, as I think leaving the plate off completely isnt an option for where I live (Police are quite sh!tty about it). I don't think there is a decent looking way around it. Number plate re-location onto the bonnet looks cr@p IMO, and also re-location to underneath one of the headlights (providing you dont have headlamp wash) looks wayyy too lopsided. Fixing to the lower grille will inhibit cooling, and fixing to the lower grille so that it hangs down on the lower splitter looks like the car is sticking its front teeth out - not a good look AT ALL!!!

:undecided:

i think the best would be to get a trimmed down plate 2/3 size and put it on the front splitter but to one side, this imo would look smart  :cool:

or get a trimmed plate and some of them super sticky outdoor pads from "do it all" and stick it onto the carbon.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: john_o on 27 October 2008, 12:47
I run 2/3rds plate in normal position (no plinth)
and sticky pads are fine (just make sure area is clean and you warm the area/pads with a hairdryer first  :wink:)
Although if they are really strict round your area then you wont get away with a 2/3rds plate anyway!

other options

REGAL car runs a stick on the bonnet front plate : you say you didnt like this?

You could buy one of the 'plate flippers' , which you could allow it to slide under front splitter lip with the ign off.
That way at shows etc looks 'clean' but legal when driving (does look cack tho!)


Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: WhiteGTI on 27 October 2008, 13:01
I run 2/3rds plate in normal position (no plinth)
and sticky pads are fine (just make sure area is clean and you warm the area/pads with a hairdryer first  :wink:)
Although if they are really strict round your area then you wont get away with a 2/3rds plate anyway!

other options

REGAL car runs a stick on the bonnet front plate : you say you didnt like this?

You could buy one of the 'plate flippers' , which you could allow it to slide under front splitter lip with the ign off.
That way at shows etc looks 'clean' but legal when driving (does look cack tho!)




Yeah - all good suggestions John..

Seen those plate flipper things - quite intrigued, but never had the time to follow it up! Thanks for reminding me :)

Run a 2/3 plate on my other car, but I think as the plate follows the contrours of the car it doesn't attract as much attention. I think it would be more noticeable on the GTI :(
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: RedRobin on 27 October 2008, 13:26
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/JKMgroup_4Oct08JPG.jpg)

....My front mask is bonded on top of the stock mask - It's the only carbon piece I have which isn't a total replacement.

Any kind of sticky tape or pads won't work when subjected to the heat of Summer - The mounting position is on a curve and plates are straight, so the tension and tendency to lift is constant.

I'm tempted to remove the somewhat useless number plate base mount.
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: john_o on 27 October 2008, 14:32
I think it would be more noticeable on the GTI :(

It looks fab , but its VERY noticeable.
I got stopped at a set of lights the other day for a 'census' , got asked the normal stuff , then the presiding traffic officer (to ensure the census takers dont get abuse), politely 'suggested' that I change my 'kid on motorcycle sized plate' for a legal one  :grin:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: RedRobin on 27 October 2008, 14:35

I got stopped at a set of lights the other day for a 'census' , got asked the normal stuff , then the presiding traffic officer (to ensure the census takers dont get abuse), politely 'suggested' that I change my 'kid on motorcycle sized plate' for a legal one  :grin:


....I'm sure you'll have to change it to get through your MOT too.
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 27 October 2008, 15:14

I got stopped at a set of lights the other day for a 'census' , got asked the normal stuff , then the presiding traffic officer (to ensure the census takers dont get abuse), politely 'suggested' that I change my 'kid on motorcycle sized plate' for a legal one  :grin:


....I'm sure you'll have to change it to get through your MOT too.

 :shocked: :shocked: good point ive never thought of that!! is the plate part of the MOT thow  :huh:

edit: and i dont think john_o will need an MOT yet  :smiley:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Pirelli_P on 27 October 2008, 15:18
Thanks for that peeps, I phoned TT shop to ask what they suggested since it came with no instructions, and they said to remove the stock grill and put this one in its place, but that sounds too dodgy to do at home imo, so im glad others have simply put them over their existing ones! This is what ill do, its just think about the plate as well since both need to be done at the same time really!

I will have to give the plate a bit more thought, shame it wont stick with pads!  :sad:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: RedRobin on 27 October 2008, 15:20

I got stopped at a set of lights the other day for a 'census' , got asked the normal stuff , then the presiding traffic officer (to ensure the census takers dont get abuse), politely 'suggested' that I change my 'kid on motorcycle sized plate' for a legal one  :grin:


....I'm sure you'll have to change it to get through your MOT too.

 :shocked: :shocked: good point ive never thought of that!! is the plate part of the MOT thow  :huh:

edit: and i dont think john_o will need an MOT yet  :smiley:

....I believe that the plate is now part of the MOT and, if not yet, the plan is that it will be sooner rather than later. The rules on what constitutes a legal plate are both strict and very detailed - You must display the car supplier's full address for example.
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: 182_blue on 27 October 2008, 15:21

I got stopped at a set of lights the other day for a 'census' , got asked the normal stuff , then the presiding traffic officer (to ensure the census takers dont get abuse), politely 'suggested' that I change my 'kid on motorcycle sized plate' for a legal one  :grin:


....I'm sure you'll have to change it to get through your MOT too.

 :shocked: :shocked: good point ive never thought of that!! is the plate part of the MOT thow  :huh:

edit: and i dont think john_o will need an MOT yet  :smiley:

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Plates fitted to models registered after 1 September 2001 that aren’t embossed with the name and postcode of the supplier and BS AU145d British Standard symbol will result in an automatic failure. The move is des­igned to make it easy for testers to spot non-road-legal ‘show plates’, as these don’t have a BS symbol.

yor small plate wont have the BS mark and it will fail on incorrect size too
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: RedRobin on 27 October 2008, 15:24
Quote
Plates fitted to models registered after 1 September 2001 that aren’t embossed with the name and postcode of the supplier and BS AU145d British Standard symbol will result in an automatic failure. The move is des­igned to make it easy for testers to spot non-road-legal ‘show plates’, as these don’t have a BS symbol.

yor small plate wont have the BS mark and it will fail on incorrect size too

....I didn't know about the BS mark :afro:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: 182_blue on 27 October 2008, 15:28
from Vosa

20-09-07 Changes to the Requirements for Registration Plate Checks at MOT Test

Vehicles with incorrectly displayed registration plates already fail the MOT test. From Monday 1st October the requirements will be tightened to further align with the regulations. This action is being taken to aid eye witness accounts, traffic enforcement cameras, Automatic Number Plate Recognition systems and road user charging technology.

Registration plates must be present, secure, show the correct registration, colour and be the correct size, format and font. MOT testers are not required to carry out physical measurements but will complete a visual inspection.

VOSA has produced a leaflet ‘Registration Plates and the MOT Test’ which outlines the changes being made and can be viewed here: Registration Plates and the MOT

VOSA's MOT Standards Manager John Stephenson said:

“We would urge anyone going for an MOT to ensure that their registration plates comply with legislation. The best way to do this is to consult our new leaflet which has been produced specifically to assist MOT customers. This action has been taken to help us to save lives, make roads safer, cut crime and protect the environment.”
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: john_o on 27 October 2008, 15:30
no MOT for a while  :wink:
but I run the wifes car on 2/3rds front plate too , and that gets the original dealer plate stuck over the 2/3'rds just for the MOT  :cool:
Decision on what you do is up to you , its only a matter of time before Im going to have to change to legal ones me thinks
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 27 October 2008, 15:48
will have to work something out in march then  :sad: although i do have my normal plates in the boot at all times, just incase i come across a strict bobby  :smiley:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: RedRobin on 27 October 2008, 16:14
....

The thing is though, guys, that if you get stopped by the Police for something other than your plate, they'll see your technically illegal plate anyway and may then be inclined to add it to any other offences. It could make the difference between a stern lecture and a ticket, also depending on your attitude when spoken to.

Better safe than sorry imo. Keep your speed reasonable and don't take the p!ss with things like number plates and most Police will use some discretion.
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: sixpot on 27 October 2008, 16:40
I have a smooth US spec front grill/mask, and run a short number plate fitted to the lower centre grill, used to run it in the windscreen as it looked so much better!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/sixpot/CIMG0241.jpg)

Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Pirelli_P on 28 October 2008, 15:31
I have had a cunning thought,

attach the grill as others have done.

but with the number plate, get a square mitsubishi  style square one located next to one of the fog lights! I know this will clearly make it lop sided but i think it could look good plus im struggling to think of ways of attaching the number plate in its normal position with drilling anything! the bonus of this look is that the grill will be completely free from obstruction and the OSIR mask can be seen in all its glory!

any ideas how to attach a plate in this position, anyone done it?

is it legal to have a square plate in the lower apron of the car like iv described. i couldn't think it wouldn't since evo's have them but thought id ask!
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 28 October 2008, 15:49
that would look ricer!!!  :sick: :sick: :sick:

just take the plate of whack it in your window and forget about it!!!

oh and your not the only one with a perelli, but they havnt posted pics yet either  :undecided:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Pirelli_P on 28 October 2008, 15:52
spose it might look ricer but im of the opinion it would work well!

the window is a non starter where i live, id get an internal examination before id know it!

i may not be the only one now, but mine is by far the best!  :grin:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2008, 15:56
I reckon a square plate to one side would look good. THe alfa 156 has it and that's not rice!

Nick
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 28 October 2008, 15:59
I reckon a square plate to one side would look good. THe alfa 156 has it and that's not rice!

Nick

and thats something that should really inspire you  :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Pirelli_P on 28 October 2008, 16:05
any suggestion as to how i could attach it in this position?
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2008, 16:06
Er yes, damn fine looking car.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/353711210_5771dbffa6.jpg)
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 28 October 2008, 16:12
etto!  :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: Horney on 28 October 2008, 16:14
etto indeed, hence why you drive a plain looking eurobox :wink:

nick
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: 182_blue on 28 October 2008, 16:17
Er yes, damn fine looking car.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/353711210_5771dbffa6.jpg)

 :sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: Front Mask Installation Help...Pleaseeeee!
Post by: joesgti on 28 October 2008, 16:19
Er yes, damn fine looking car.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/353711210_5771dbffa6.jpg)

 :sick: :sick: :sick:
:afro: