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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: JKM_Performance on 20 October 2008, 16:25
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(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Misc_Performance_pictures/TFSI-images/JKM%20101%20Images%20big/tfsi-smaller.gif)
Following extensive endurance testing (In excess of 20,000 miles covered by our customer) the Skoda Octavia 2.0 TFSI with the JKM Advanced K04 conversion was back in Portsmouth on Saturday 18th October for a power run.
The Octavia features our Advanced K04 conversion, as detailed here: http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm (http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm)
Also fitted is our highly advised Big brake upgrade as detailed here: http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tfsibrakes.htm (http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tfsibrakes.htm)
The dyno graph can be seen below… The K04 conversion is absolutely superb – not only was peak BHP and Torque measured to have increased to 309BHP* & 312Lb/Ft* – but more importantly Torque is kept above 250Lb/Ft from 2750rpm through to 6400rpm!
This makes for effortless acceleration in any gear – combined with silky smooth power delivery and even the TFSI engines economy is kept impressive when driven sensibly (as reported by our customer).
This has got to be the best all round street use turbo conversion for the K03 equipped 2.0 TFSI engine - utilising many OEM parts and high quality aftermarket parts, we have proven this combination over 20,000 miles with just 1 OEM Diverter valve failure ! :) - Which was an early 'C' revision BTW
If you have been modifying your car in stages then we would advise that you look at the Basic K04 upgrade as listed at the top of the page here: http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm
Price reductions are made for returning REVO customers and for example if you are on Revo stage 2 Hardware/Software the conversion can be done for £3354.93 Including Vat BUT you must already have the suitable supporting hardware – such as full turbo back exhaust etc, to make the most of this conversion.
(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Misc_Performance_pictures/TFSI-images/JKM%20K04%20Power/K04TWO.gif)
*Results where recorded with the vehicle running on Shell V Power fuel – full details can be found on our website at www.jkm.org.uk
Any questions please let us know and we will do our best to get back to you asap.
Kind Regards
The JKM Team :cool:
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sounds interesting, ps your brake link doesnt work, in fact neither links work :nerd:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost??
Your right arm and probably your Soul. Cheap at twice the price!
Nick
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
200 BHP it is for me then. :grin:
Would be nice though :drool:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that made me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
somebody could actually trade their gti in and get an ed30 with KO4 std for that price LMFAO
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Who do we know that has a Gti that loves to mod, and is trying to get more Horsepower??? and maybe he might go for it???
Earth Calling Robin!!
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Who do we know that has a Gti that loves to mod, and is trying to get more Horsepower??? and maybe he might go for it???
Earth Calling egbert nosh!!!!
:laugh: :laugh:
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im sure the apr conversion is 1/2 that price and is good for 375bhp and 350 torque :huh:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that made me laugh, :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
somebody could actually trade their gti in and get an ed30 with KO4 std for that price LMFAO
But everybodys not keen on the tartain seats!!. Maybe worth considering lol
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But everybodys not keen on the tartain seats!!. Maybe worth considering lol
you'd probably have change left for the recaro bucket seats too.
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im sure the apr conversion is 1/2 that price and is good for 375bhp and 350 torque :huh:
Your getting confused with there stage 3 big turbo conversion, for that power but they have got a KO4 conversion for about £ 3000 plus VAT :smug:
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The Price referred to above is for a totally standard unmodified K03 turbo car to come into our workshop and then leave with all of the items listed on our Advanced K04 page.
If you have been modifying your car in stages then we would advise that you look at the Basic K04 upgrade as listed at the top of the page here: http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm
Price reductions are made for returning REVO customers and for example if you are on Revo stage 2 hardware the conversion can be done for £3354.93 Including Vat but you must already have the suitable supporting hardware – such as full turbo back exhaust etc, to make the most of this conversion.
If you total up the cost of all the piece parts to convert a K03 engine to the equivalent hardware standard of the JKM advanced K04 you will actually see that the price is good.
Hope this helps clear up any confusion.
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Expect Robin to be on the phone soon Kate/jim/keith! :wink:
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I could get myself a tubo for that price :grin: :grin:
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Who do we know that has a Gti that loves to mod, and is trying to get more Horsepower??? and maybe he might go for it???
Earth Calling Robin!!
....I'm not trying to buy more horses - I've got enough with Revo Stage2 - I'm just needing to find them as they went wondering off! :tongue: :grin:
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So this basically equates to a Revo KO4 S3/Ed30/Cupra then (bar the IC on the ED30/Cupra)...?
Thought that Revo stage 1 would never get near 300bhp on JKM's rollers???? :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Interesting that JKM now recommend the APR aftermarket fuel pump over all others.
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So this basically equates to a Revo KO4 S3/Ed30/Cupra then (bar the IC on the ED30/Cupra)...?
Thought that Revo stage 1 would never get near 300bhp on JKM's rollers???? :grin: :grin: :grin:
depends on what state of tune Ben. alot more mods i think, intercoolers, intake etc
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So this basically equates to a Revo KO4 S3/Ed30/Cupra then (bar the IC on the ED30/Cupra)...?
Thought that Revo stage 1 would never get near 300bhp on JKM's rollers???? :grin: :grin: :grin:
depends on what state of tune Ben. alot more mods i think, intercoolers, intake etc
S3 Intercooler yes, which doesn't really add any more BHP as such (just helps with cooling when things get a little warm. Intake is hardly going to add massive bhp either..
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Interesting that JKM now recommend the APR aftermarket fuel pump over all others.
Yes. And concerning....
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For the price of the APR one, it should be the best with all the quality assurance and testing each pump goes through before being released for sale.
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For the price of the APR one, it should be the best with all the quality assurance and testing each pump goes through before being released for sale.
Not disputing that, but even still it is hugely expensive.
I am more concerned why the sudden change of focus as the last time I spoke to them, the KMD and Autotech ones were the ones to go for.
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For the price of the APR one, it should be the best with all the quality assurance and testing each pump goes through before being released for sale.
Not disputing that, but even still it is hugely expensive.
I am more concerned why the sudden change of focus as the last time I spoke to them, the KMD and Autotech ones were the ones to go for.
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Though it's well known that the earlier KMD/Autotech's had problems.
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For the price of the APR one, it should be the best with all the quality assurance and testing each pump goes through before being released for sale.
Not disputing that, but even still it is hugely expensive.
I am more concerned why the sudden change of focus as the last time I spoke to them, the KMD and Autotech ones were the ones to go for.
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Though it's well known that the earlier KMD/Autotech's had problems.
The one I had came with an updated coating or something, and touch wood, so far, no problems although all of a sudden I am a little perturbed.
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hmm, I think we need RedRobin to investigate this further with JMK asap
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For the price of the APR one, it should be the best with all the quality assurance and testing each pump goes through before being released for sale.
Not disputing that, but even still it is hugely expensive.
I am more concerned why the sudden change of focus as the last time I spoke to them, the KMD and Autotech ones were the ones to go for.
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Though it's well known that the earlier KMD/Autotech's had problems.
The one I had came with an updated coating or something, and touch wood, so far, no problems although all of a sudden I am a little perturbed.
....Unfortunately I don't know enough detail to be of help, but JKM would doubtless be able to inform about the history.
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hmm, I think we need RedRobin to investigate this further with JMK asap
....Well, I'm at JKM on Thursday but it would be better if they posted info here themselves.
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I phoned them the other day, and they told me that the APR pump is of superior design and quality to the Autotech and KMD.
They said that sometimes you get good examples of KMD's / Autotech's, and sometimes you can get bad ones. But the APR's quality is second to none. They said that the design of the APR pump is very similar to the stock part - simple and very effective, but of all round a much better quality.
But then again, it is a lot more expensive!!
This probably doesn't help this discussion, but thought I would post what I know :smiley:
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Their sudden move towards APR doesn't surprise me. A ready made pump sealed and ready to go will make it easier to fit and save time and effort on JKM's side.
I'd still like some clarification on the true reason behind the shift though. :smiley:
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If I get some spare cash lying about I could be tempted - at least I can then look to keep the car until the new GTI-R is realeased and on the roads which is going to be another year or so I suppose... Mmmmm, lets see whats left in the kitty once the house is done :rolleyes:
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6 big ones !!! you might aswell get an ED30 ! :laugh:
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6 big ones !!! you might aswell get an ED30 ! :laugh:
Exactly, you could sell your GTI, buy a ED30, mod that and STILL have change... :grin:
Or probably even buy an S3.. :shocked:
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My GTI is fully loaded and I would expect a sway to an ED30 would be around £5k when a K04 conversion would be around £3k as I have Stage 2 mods already
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But the residuals on the Ed30 would be a lot better mate and you would also have the ED30 spec to go with it. 3k isn't THAT bad really, but 6k is.. :shocked:
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I see your point - would need xenons though :cool:
Anyway, house project first and then could be tempted with a mk6 anyway as I will be due for a swap about then (bearing in mind DINK is going out the window early next year)
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JKM appreciate that some people would like to know more about why we have made the switch from KMD & Autotech TFSI fuel pump internals, over to the complete APR pre built and tested unit.
Where we have been using KMD/Autotech internals I will detail what process we have been going through for each fuel pump prior to sending it out to a customer, so you will get a feel for the process that needs to be run through by JKM to ensure that the pumps are of sufficiently high quality to sell to a customer.
After receiving the fuel pump internals from the manufacture (say for example KMD) we first check the machined parts for known manufacturing problems by measuring and a general visual inspection – any problems here and the pump internals are rejected.
We then hand assemble the parts together and with a light lubrication between the piston and bore, the clearance and general feel is assessed. The internals are then hand assembled into a test fuel pump body - any problems here and the pump internals are rejected.
Assuming that all is good on the above, we can then begin an up rated fuel pump internal build into a brand new OEM pump.
Cleanliness is paramount here as any debris etc will ruin the piston shaft. This is something that we only do in an extremely clean environment to ensure the utmost quality.
Once the fuel pump is built, we then move onto the next main step – Testing.
To ensure that each TFSI fuel pump that we supply is of the highest quality we have been testing each pump built by JKM, on our own TFSI car.
Therefore every time we build a new pump Kates nice new shiny Mk5 GTI is pulled apart and the test pump is installed for performance testing under load. Following the install we analyse each fuel pump in detail.
We will look at the fuel pumps Quantity Valve differential angle, Total Compression volume, Fuel pressure and more – again comparing the results against known good units.
With our experience of these pumps it is possible to analyse the results and detect possible problems with internal clearances as a result of machining tolerances, but this is a very complex area. If we suspect problems we will remove the fuel pump, disassemble and inspect it again – any problems found here and the pump internals are rejected.
Following all of the above, assuming that the built TFSI fuel pump is functioning correctly, we will remove the fuel pump from our test car, seal it into a bag and box it and send out to the customer.
The main reason we have chosen to swap from KMD/Autotech is that the above is very costly to us (time wise) to get a good pump together. We have sometimes had to build 3 pumps to get 1 good unit.
We appreciate quality engineering, which APR provide with their fuel pump,
Our equivalent of the APR test rig, is our own MK5 Golf GTI engine and our diagnostics knowledge.
(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Misc_Performance_pictures/APR%20Pump/pumptest.jpg)
APR does have a superior hardware design, changing much more than just the piston and bore. The complete internals are re-engineered, right down to the balanced seal rings and main spring assembly. This design puts less stress on the rear balanced seal than the other pump solutions – the APR pump design is along the same route as the OEM pump only obviously containing larger internals for increased fuel volume.
APR route out bad pumps themselves during testing at their own facility, and the pumps have even been used by VW Motorsport on the VW Scirocco GT24 which won the ADAC 24h Race without any fault.
For those interested more information on this can be found here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3855643
JKM will only bring to market the quality items. If we find that the quality of an item is not acceptable we will first try and work with the supplier for a solution but ultimately if we would not be happy to use the product on our own car we will not sell it to a customer for use on their car.
For JKM the up rated internals route (only) is too inconsistent from the manufacturers.
APR provide a quality fuel pump out of the box, and the customer is in the knowledge that there will be no issues.
The APR pump can be bought in 2 ways; we will be updating our website shortly to include the cheaper core exchange route.
1) An outright buy of an APR pump, where by you can remove your stock TFSI pump and retain it somewhere safe and simply install the APR pump. This route costs £624+Vat excluding postage back to you.
2) The second route is a core exchange, where by if you send us your TFSI pump we will send it to APR for a pre built unit, this route costs £509+Vat excluding postage back to you and you are responsible for postage of your pump to JKM intially.
For those customers already with a JKM built KMD or Autotech pump, you do not need to worry as we have done the above testing process on your pump to ensure you have a good unit. I hope this helps clear up the questions in this area and hopefully you will appreciate why we have made the switch to the APR unit.
For those who wondered, our own car does use an APR fuel pump but the K04 conversion car that has been on long term testing (20,000 miles) has been, and is still using a KMD pump without fault.
JKM
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High quality info, JKM!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: - Five Star Quality!
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Top answer from JKM - impressed me :cool:
Confirmed what I said in my earlier post too :wink:
It puts my mind at rest about my Autotech one too. Knowing that there isn't an inherent fault is always good news. :smiley:
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Now you know why I, and others, have been praising JKM for months :smiley:
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Now you know why I, and others, have been praising JKM for months :smiley:
all they need to do is open up another site in South Wales and job's a good 'un :grin: :grin:
been very helpful with regards to a Milltek for my car - so much i may even make the trip down to them :afro:
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It's people like them that hold the future of the British car industry.
I wonder if they have thought about building a car, I'll bet they have.
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It's people like them that hold the future of the British car industry.
I wonder if they have thought about building a car, I'll bet they have.
....I think they have a Mk2 GTI.
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I was thinking about a brand new car from the ground up. People will buy a fast, cheap and practical electric car for instance. It's just the time to give the old manufacturers a run for their tied-up money.
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yea, but it costs millions and millions to design a car, jkm dont actually manufactur anything themselves. they sell already manufactured things like apr pump, i/c, etc etc, they are a garage, like awesome. please correct me if im wrong :smiley:
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It's the enthusiasm that counts. To be bothered to pen a long reply to this forum indicates the right sort of chaps.
There's plenty of money about looking for a safe home. Why not invest in a new car company?
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It's the enthusiasm that counts. To be bothered to pen a long reply to this forum indicates the right sort of chaps.
There's plenty of money about looking for a safe home. Why not invest in a new car company?
They only explained why they are using a different fuel pump they haven't discovered a new type of energy that is going to change the world.
And im guessing, but if the turbo upgrade costs about 3500 grand then, for them to build you a car from scratch you are looking at about 10 00000 :laugh: :lipsrsealed:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
not checked there prices TBH, BUT i do find the whole VW tuning scene very expensive compared to other marques tuners :undecided:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
not checked there prices TBH, BUT i do find the whole VW tuning scene very expensive compared to other marques tuners :undecided:
its like any car, you buya ford and parts and work wont cost as much, you buy a porsche and its stupid amounts of money to tune, higher up the car, more expensive to mod, thats how i see it :smiley:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
not checked there prices TBH, BUT i do find the whole VW tuning scene very expensive compared to other marques tuners :undecided:
its like any car, you buya ford and parts and work wont cost as much, you buy a porsche and its stupid amounts of money to tune, higher up the car, more expensive to mod, thats how i see it :smiley:
well, yes, but when a company makes a intercooler for one marque at say £400, but then makes a very simillar sized one (if not smaller and nothing more technically different to justify expense) for say a VW then charge £700 + i cant see how they get away with it !!, well i can because the owners are prepared to pay for it, but you wouldnt pay more for your petrol than say a Ford owner would you ?
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
not checked there prices TBH, BUT i do find the whole VW tuning scene very expensive compared to other marques tuners :undecided:
I don't agree. Look at JKMs price for the R32 front brakes (link in the original post) - JKM want £700 + VAT. These same bits can be got a fair amount cheaper elsewhere. :rolleyes:
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i understand what your saying, but thats just usually how the world spins.
a good example of this:
my friend works in JJB (:lipsrsealed:) and they have some addidas trainers in there in red and blue, the red ones are priced 10 pounds more expensive because they are more popular. but cost the exact same to make.
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
not checked there prices TBH, BUT i do find the whole VW tuning scene very expensive compared to other marques tuners :undecided:
I don't agree. Look at JKMs price for the R32 front brakes (link in the original post) - JKM want £700 + VAT. These same bits can be got a fair amount cheaper elsewhere. :rolleyes:
also most things that people buy on here can be found alot cheaper with abit of research, as TT has pointed out with JKM, also awesome sell the ed30 front splitter for 70 pounds more than VW. :shocked:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
not checked there prices TBH, BUT i do find the whole VW tuning scene very expensive compared to other marques tuners :undecided:
I don't agree. Look at JKMs price for the R32 front brakes (link in the original post) - JKM want £700 + VAT. These same bits can be got a fair amount cheaper elsewhere. :rolleyes:
also most things that people buy on here can be found alot cheaper with abit of research, as TT has pointed out with JKM, also awesome sell the ed30 front splitter for 70 pounds more than VW. :shocked:
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
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And How much is this Wonderful mod gonna cost?? and what other parts are replaced to "cater for this mod".
£6171.10 Including Vat
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K04-upgrade.htm#ad
Wow - waaaaaaayyyyy over priced. In fact, all of JKMs prices seem to be OTT. :rolleyes:
not checked there prices TBH, BUT i do find the whole VW tuning scene very expensive compared to other marques tuners :undecided:
I don't agree. Look at JKMs price for the R32 front brakes (link in the original post) - JKM want £700 + VAT. These same bits can be got a fair amount cheaper elsewhere. :rolleyes:
also most things that people buy on here can be found alot cheaper with abit of research, as TT has pointed out with JKM, also awesome sell the ed30 front splitter for 70 pounds more than VW. :shocked:
Agreed, but JKMs £700 for the front brakes is really taking the p!ss when you can get the same stuff for around £550 - even less with the forum discount - http://www.vwspeed.co.uk/volkswagen/vw-parts/Mk5_Golf_R32_345mm_Front_Brake_Kit-2224-323.html. So how do JKM justify an extra £150 ???
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including fitting?? :undecided: :huh:
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the thing is we need more info like this to help us realise such price differences, plus there needs to be more group buys :cool:
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including fitting?? :undecided: :huh:
Nope. It is £700 + vat, for collection only, and another £100 + vat for fitting.
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tfsibrakes.htm
The exact same kit which VW Speed supplies for a "retail" price of £548.90 + vat.
So I ask again, why the massive price difference? We arn't talking about 10, 20, 30 or even 50 quid - but more than £150 difference. :shocked: :rolleyes: I know businesses have to make a profit to survive, but that really is taking the p!ss.
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The JKM Big Front Brake Kit includes ALL of the Genuine OEM items that are required to complete the conversion - rather than cheaper alternative kits on the market.
The JKM kit also Includes the 4 brake caliper Guide pins (Rather than you having to remove them from your existing calipers as per other kits available)
2 x OEM 345 x 30mm Vented brake disks
2 x OEM Single piston Brake calipers (choice of colours)
2 x OEM Brake pads (Including wear indicator)
2 x OEM Brake pad retaining springs
2 x OEM Caliper carriers
2 x OEM Brake lines
2 x OEM Splash shields
4 x OEM Brake caliper Guide pins
Plus all required OEM mounting brackets for this conversion
If any one wants individual prices for the parts listed against this list then I am happy to spend my time doing so.
Kate
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I got mine sourced brand new for even less than VW Speed's price!
But waiting for a couple of missing bits to be sent this week. Can't wait to have them fitted!
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Or £555 delivered from here: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=186468
EDIT: beat me to it chungster :P
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The JKM Big Front Brake Kit includes ALL of the Genuine OEM items that are required to complete the conversion - rather than cheaper alternative kits on the market.
The JKM kit also Includes the 4 brake caliper Guide pins (Rather than you having to remove them from your existing calipers as per other kits available)
2 x OEM 345 x 30mm Vented brake disks
2 x OEM Single piston Brake calipers (choice of colours)
2 x OEM Brake pads (Including wear indicator)
2 x OEM Brake pad retaining springs
2 x OEM Caliper carriers
2 x OEM Brake lines
2 x OEM Splash shields
4 x OEM Brake caliper Guide pins
Plus all required OEM mounting brackets for this conversion
If any one wants individual prices for the parts listed against this list then I am happy to spend my time doing so.
Kate
Kate - that is nigh-on EXACTLY the same as what VW Speed supplies - all brand new genuine OEM official VW bits - so you really are barking up the wrong tree if you try to state that only yours are genuine, and all the others are "cheaper aftermarket kits"!
Actually, VW Speed does not supply the hoses, which will be about £15 per side, and the guide pins are a non-wearing part, and so can be re-used from your existing calipers without any detriment.
I'm sorry, but how can anyone recommend purchasing from you when the identical stuff can be had from more than one other place with a saving of over £150 ?
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I got mine sourced brand new for even less than VW Speed's price!
But waiting for a couple of missing bits to be sent this week. Can't wait to have them fitted!
What was not in the kit then? :smiley:
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I got mine sourced brand new for even less than VW Speed's price!
But waiting for a couple of missing bits to be sent this week. Can't wait to have them fitted!
What was not in the kit then? :smiley:
The bit that goes from flexi hose into the piston housing!
we had the wheel / discs / caliper off the car. then we looked at how the new flexi hose gets routed, and realised "that ain't gonna screw into the caliper now is it....we're missing a bit doh"
cue a few choice words and off to a parts place to see if they had some. but no luck.
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I got mine sourced brand new for even less than VW Speed's price!
But waiting for a couple of missing bits to be sent this week. Can't wait to have them fitted!
What was not in the kit then? :smiley:
The bit that goes from flexi hose into the piston housing!
we had the wheel / discs / caliper off the car. then we looked at how the new flexi hose gets routed, and realised "that ain't gonna screw into the caliper now is it....we're missing a bit doh"
cue a few choice words and off to a parts place to see if they had some. but no luck.
You actually need the proper flexy hoses then, rather than trying to find an adapter - because the calipers have completely different fixings (GTI caliper has a side banjo, and the 345 caliper uses an end fitting). Part no 1K0 611 701 M for both sides. About £15 a piece.
HTH
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BMW and Porsche tuners are rip offs but they no that fools will pay that much, so they charge it and fools will buy it ! :sick: :laugh:
I spent about £3600 on a full system on my CSL then i changed just the backbox for a daft Gruppe M one @ £1800 !!!!
Daft why, because it was the loudest, droneist, tinny sounding exhaust i ever heard.
Definatly always shop around for parts when tuning and if possible go direct to the manufacturer, i find VW parts okay in modding price, but the Brakes are ridiculously priced !
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Before this spirals into something it doesn't need to be, can we drag this back on topic. Something about turbos wasn't it?
Feel free to start a new thread 'best place to get R32 brakes' or similar :tongue: .. would be a much better way to keep the forum informed of where to get the best deals.
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back on topic :laugh:
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this is getting very very sad now, pages being deleated, locked topics, weve already lost one very decent member because of all this (newgolf) and im affraid that others will soon follow :sad:
Not really it had got a bit out of hand and horribly off topic. Standard modding procedure on the other forums I use for cars and photography.
Anyhoo turbo kit looks cool as. Hopefully they'll still offer it in 2022 when I'll be able to afford a MKV Gti.
Nick