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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: 2007GTI on 15 September 2008, 22:12

Title: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: 2007GTI on 15 September 2008, 22:12
after the review of the scirocco they said that the GTI is now obsolete! I.e why would you buy one now when the scirocco is priced so closely. Cheeky fu€ks!  :undecided:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 15 September 2008, 22:16
Because it is a different car IMO.. Have you sat in the Scirocco yet? Very cramped for a start..
Much prefer the looks of mine too..
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: 2007GTI on 15 September 2008, 22:19
yeah I've driven one, see my very brief review which Phil kindly locked!

I can hear the keys clanging already!
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: I_Love_Candy on 15 September 2008, 22:26
the best line was

"Only a fool would buy a 3 door Gti"

 :laugh:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 15 September 2008, 22:27
Well that's good ole Fifth Gear for you - all a bunch of Max Power rejects - even that floosy "Vicky Bollox Henderson".  What anyone sees in that slapper is beyond me!  :sick:  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: 182_blue on 15 September 2008, 22:27
when's is it on again, I missed it
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 15 September 2008, 22:28
when's is it on again, I missed it

Sunday mornings, 10am on five.  :smiley:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: 182_blue on 15 September 2008, 22:29
when's is it on again, I missed it

Sunday mornings, 10am on five.  :smiley:
cheers :-)
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 15 September 2008, 22:49
Or just go on here tomorrow mate and watch it..  :wink:
http://fifthgear.five.tv/
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Makefish on 15 September 2008, 23:13
I took a look at the Scirrocco earlier today and I must say that it does look very cramped inside, absolutely no good for 'family man' (which is me  :embarassed:) whereas the Golf can fit that requirement more readily.

Have actually fallen for the new Passat CC but I'm not sure if I'm old enough to have one  :wink:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: RedRobin on 15 September 2008, 23:43
I took a look at the Scirrocco earlier today and I must say that it does look very cramped inside, absolutely no good for 'family man' (which is me  :embarassed:) whereas the Golf can fit that requirement more readily.

Have actually fallen for the new Passat CC but I'm not sure if I'm old enough to have one  :wink:

....I'm old enough for the Passat CC and it is a very elegant car. I've also test driven the Scirocco - Review+25pics : - http://biali.ritey.com/forum/index.php?topic=109.0 (http://biali.ritey.com/forum/index.php?topic=109.0)

But, do you know what? - I prefer the GTI as it's a much better allrounder imo.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Cass on 16 September 2008, 00:37
But sadly, isn't the Mk V obsolete if the dealers aren't taking any more orders :embarassed:

Cass
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Saint Steve on 16 September 2008, 08:25
My wife loved my new Passat dsg 170 before i got shot of it, was a very comfortable cruiser, good family Bus, but god dam boring to live with!.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: synnea on 16 September 2008, 08:34
the best line was

"Only a fool would buy a 3 door Gti"

 :laugh:

I had such a laugh when I heard him say that. Typical fifth gear rubbish instantly dismissing how good the GTI is. Scirocco is a lovely car and I agree it does feel cramped but the cars both fulfill different needs, especially practicality wise.

There is place for a scirocco GTI / .:R variant (should they make one) and a Golf GTI. It's nice to have the option of both. But to suggest you are a fool to buy a GTI it just ridiculous.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: pw motorsport on 16 September 2008, 08:38
You will have to wait if you want to fit aftermarket wheels to the new scirroco.
From what I can see the hub fitting for the wheels is 5x125 pcd, very helpfull?
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Peskarik on 16 September 2008, 08:46
the best line was

"Only a fool would buy a 3 door Gti"

 :laugh:

once they were saying different things....

well, I better be a fool with 3door GTI, but at least I stand by what I say.

Really, these programs are pure entertainment, and no informational content.
I stopped watching TV long ago. The only thing I'd watch is some crazy stunt by Top Gear fools.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: dubburke on 16 September 2008, 08:47
The scirocco is a lovely car, but it is for single people, the practability of the golf best suits your average person, the boot looks tiny :laugh:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: WobGTI on 16 September 2008, 08:50
hmmm, i could never buy the scirocco for work....

i mean just look at the sales of the old golf vs old scirocco, still basically the same style..
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 16 September 2008, 09:14
For those who missed it...
http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain.jsp?mnk=410&id=262&description=VW+Scirocco
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 16 September 2008, 09:27
...........but come on how many of you have entered the competition for the 911  :rolleyes: :grin: i know i have. :wink:
Have the dealers def stoped orders for the GTi now then ??.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: markymark on 16 September 2008, 10:26
...........but come on how many of you have entered the competition for the 911  :rolleyes: :grin: i know i have. :wink:
Ohhhh yeah! :cool:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Pirelli_P on 16 September 2008, 10:41
...........but come on how many of you have entered the competition for the 911  :rolleyes: :grin: i know i have. :wink:
Ohhhh yeah! :cool:

haha yeh same. Though I have a sneaky feeling I might actually win this one! lol
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Top Cat on 16 September 2008, 10:46
I love the querky looks of the new scirroco, as for it being to small thats alright for me i pull a face if mrs top cat wants to get in the gti me being so anal so its not a prob for me.
I will only swap the gti for one though if a 2.0 R version becomes available.  :drool:
My name will be first on the list.  :laugh:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: John007 on 16 September 2008, 11:12
Golfs have always held there values better than the scirroccos, I guess coz this is new there will be lots of hype, give it a Year or two and they will praise the Golf again.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: RedRobin on 16 September 2008, 12:34

....Having test driven and photographed the new Scirocco, I was astonished by just how much wide-angle lens filming they did of it on the prog - They made it look more elegant than it is in real life. It's a good car but it won't win any beauty parades imo - Bulbous and too Peugeot-like from some angles.

I can see what they were trying to say in comparing it with the 3-door GTI, but it's simply not true - The 'Rocco boot is tiny and steps up, and at exactly 6ft 0ins my head just touches the roof in the very claustrophobic back and you couldn't possibly seat 3 in the back.

It's best described as a GTI Golf Coupe but the 3-door GTI is still a better allrounder. It would need to be modified to be more exciting in my opinion - Lower it, Milltek it, Revo it.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: synnea on 16 September 2008, 13:05
...........but come on how many of you have entered the competition for the 911  :rolleyes: :grin: i know i have. :wink:
Have the dealers def stoped orders for the GTi now then ??.

yes, my local dealer has anyway. I used to work there and was told so by the guys I know. They were told directly by VW no more orders for GTI. Thats a dealer here in N Ireland anyway. They reckon VW have stopped GTI orders to try push on sales of the scirocco. I feel even happier now to have my own GTI :)
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: RedRobin on 16 September 2008, 13:12

....So, if it hasn't already been said, 'previously used' Mk5 GTI's purchase prices may hold well, although perhaps not in the current economic climate. We'll have to wait for all the knee-jerking to subside - It always does! It's cyclic.

Stay cool and don't panic with the sheep. :afro:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 September 2008, 13:38
You will have to wait if you want to fit aftermarket wheels to the new scirroco.
From what I can see the hub fitting for the wheels is 5x125 pcd, very helpfull?

No they aint!  The new Rocco wheels are 5/112 - so identical to the Mk5 Golf - on which the new Rocco is built!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: dan_apps on 16 September 2008, 13:46
im at work at the mo so i cant have a look back on the five website but i remember when the mk5 gti came out they were praising it as being the best car on the planet!!! what a bunch of knobbers!
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Top Cat on 16 September 2008, 13:50
im at work at the mo so i cant have a look back on the five website but i remember when the mk5 gti came out they were praising it as being the best car on the planet!!! what a bunch of knobbers!


Yeh and it is mr monster.  :huh: :drool:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: dan_apps on 16 September 2008, 13:58


Yeh and it is mr monster.  :huh: :drool:

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agreed.
wondered how long it would be before you were abusing me again!  :tongue:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Top Cat on 16 September 2008, 14:08


Yeh and it is mr monster.  :huh: :drool:


agreed.
wondered how long it would be before you were abusing me again!  :tongue:
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be careful what you say dude, you missed a right thread last night in chat nonse 4 pages in 5 mins removed pronto thank god.  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 September 2008, 14:11
Yeh and it is mr monster.  :huh: :drool:


agreed.
wondered how long it would be before you were abusing me again!  :tongue:

be careful what you say dude, you missed a right thread last night in chat nonse 4 pages in 5 mins removed pronto thank god.  :grin: :grin:

I think you TC were the one who needed to be thankful!  :grin:  If I've ever seen a thread backfire so sweetly, that was it!  :evil:

Cracking thread thou . . . .
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Top Cat on 16 September 2008, 14:13
Shuuuush.  :cool:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: dan_apps on 16 September 2008, 15:08
copy + paste + PM me!!

will that work?

i need the goss!!!
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 September 2008, 16:02
copy + paste + PM me!!

will that work?

i need the goss!!!

You'll have to sweet-talk Dinx - she might have only "soft deleted" the thread!
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: SteveP on 16 September 2008, 19:57
copy + paste + PM me!!

will that work?

i need the goss!!!

Ditto, What have you done this time TC???
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Top Cat on 16 September 2008, 19:59
copy + paste + PM me!!

will that work?

i need the goss!!!

Ditto, What have you done this time TC???

Cant hear you the Footy is on  :drool:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: brian g on 17 September 2008, 22:01
back to the 5th gear bashing :angry:

why do you think they keep messing about with the format/presenters

of course because it's mince

I sky+ it, watch any new interesting cars and fastforward the rest

since i'm a 3 door GTi owner, I laughed at the comments and though what a load of bollox
the 3 door Gti didn't become undesirable over night and is still a looker IMO and if the rocco was made by anybody else but looked exactly the same do you think they'd still make those ridiculous statements

I allways preffered the golfs to all the Scirrocos including the present one that just doesn't look like a VW to me, it looks like a FIAT :grin:. I mean is a coupe just a hatchback with a crap boot and no headroom for rear occupants
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Bobnaldo on 17 September 2008, 22:11
I just wish they'd stop saying its only £90 more,

when you spec up the Scirocco to the same spec as the GTI inc free leather and then add in the discount you can get for the GTI,

it ends up being about £3k plus more which is a fair whack.
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 18 September 2008, 12:37
I just wish they'd stop saying its only £90 more,

when you spec up the Scirocco to the same spec as the GTI inc free leather and then add in the discount you can get for the GTI,

it ends up being about £3k plus more which is a fair whack.

Exactly.

And it is considerably less practical than the GTI.  The two cars are aimed at very different markets, so to compare the two directly is a big no-no, and simply shows how far FG has to stoop in their journalistic endeavours!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: RedRobin on 18 September 2008, 14:41
I just wish they'd stop saying its only £90 more,

when you spec up the Scirocco to the same spec as the GTI inc free leather and then add in the discount you can get for the GTI,

it ends up being about £3k plus more which is a fair whack.

Exactly.

And it is considerably less practical than the GTI.  The two cars are aimed at very different markets, so to compare the two directly is a big no-no, and simply shows how far FG has to stoop in their journalistic endeavours!  :rolleyes:

....I couldn't agree more, T_T! :afro:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: andrewparker on 18 September 2008, 15:03
Plus it seems fairly pointless comparing the Scirocco against a car that they surely know is soon to be replaced!
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 18 September 2008, 16:10
Plus it seems fairly pointless comparing the Scirocco against a car that they surely know is soon to be replaced!

Sadly, that modus operandi seems to be the only way which those types of journos can justify their existance!  :rolleyes:

VBH is just a waste of good oxygen!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: anyone see Fifth Gear tonight?
Post by: ben1.8T on 18 September 2008, 16:21
I see that personally I think thats crap engine maybe the same the style of the car is completly different though. I dont actually like 5th gear and actually feel like a trator to Top Gear if I watch it.  :laugh: