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Title: model and year?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 08 August 2008, 06:24
Quick question guys I have what I thought was a 2005 (55) DSG engine code AXX. First registered 05/09/2005.

I have just noticed that the VIN has "1K6" in the code, does this mean that the car is actually a 06 model?   :rolleyes:




Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: ub7rm on 08 August 2008, 07:40
I believe it does.....

Do you have the radio ariel on the roof or is it built in?

Mine's an 05 and presumably one of the early ones as it doesn't have the roof aerial, at work there is another 05 which does have the roof aerial so I presume that they changed the spec somewhere early 2005?

Sorry to hijack but when did the engine change from AXX and whats the difference?  Am I right in thinking the cam lobe wear problem doesn't affect the early models (ie mine!)
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: bacillus on 08 August 2008, 07:51
put your vin in here and see what comes out...

http://www.abvwc.org.uk/vw_vin.htm
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 August 2008, 09:20
Quick question guys I have what I thought was a 2005 (55) DSG engine code AXX. First registered 05/09/2005.

I have just noticed that the VIN has "1K6" in the code, does this mean that the car is actually a 06 model?   :rolleyes:

Are you sure the "1K6" is actually in the 17 digit VIN, rather than listed as a separate "TYP" code on the VIN sticker?

Because normal Golf Vs (which are built at Wolfsburg) have the following VINs - WVWZZZ1KZ@W****** - where the "@", or 10th digit indicates the model year, and the last six asterixes are merely the numeric serial number.

The "TYP" code of "1K6" consists of two separate parts - the "1K" indicates the basic type of vehicle - in this case a Volkswagen Golf Mk5, built on the A5 (or correctly termed "PQ35") platform.  The "6" indicates that it is a right-hand drive car.

HTH
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 08 August 2008, 09:28
Thanks TT, yes its in the long vin number at the 10th digit place.

Aerial looks built in, cant say i have paid too much attention to it..will have another look, however I am sure that TT is correct in these matters....therefore its an 06  :cool:

Does that mean, when I come to sell the car, that I can legitimately market it as a (55) 06 ? probably not eh? the year tends to mean its year of registration, doesn't it?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: AlanD on 08 August 2008, 09:47
Mine has 2 ariels on top of the car and in the rear heating element. It switches between the two depending on which one has best signal (so I have been told).
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: RedRobin on 08 August 2008, 10:18
put your vin in here and see what comes out...

http://www.abvwc.org.uk/vw_vin.htm

....Is it a wise idea to let others know your full VIN # on the internet? [in old cynic mode]
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 August 2008, 10:26
Mine's an 05 and presumably one of the early ones as it doesn't have the roof aerial, at work there is another 05 which does have the roof aerial so I presume that they changed the spec somewhere early 2005?

A roof aerial won't necessarily indicate any change in model year.  :rolleyes:  It probably indicates differing levels of communications kit fitted (radio/GSM prep/SatNav).

Sorry to hijack but when did the engine change from AXX and whats the difference?

I think it was for the 2007 model year, but I can't find a definative answer.  :embarassed:

Am I right in thinking the cam lobe wear problem doesn't affect the early models (ie mine!)

Not sure on this.  I have strong suspicions that it is nothing to do with the actual engine code, but more to do with the mod-happy Yanks, who refuse to use the higher spec LongLife 3 oils, which were specifically developed for the FSI engines.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: RedRobin on 08 August 2008, 10:44
....We discussed this in great detail in another thread - Perhaps it was on Tyresmoke. I'll see if I can find the thread. Long story short is that none of us here in UK found that our VW dealers could locate the issue about a month ago. The VW doc about it originated across the pond, so T_T isn't telling porky pies :wink: :grin:.
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 August 2008, 10:46
Thanks TT, yes its in the long vin number at the 10th digit place.

Ohhh - that a little confusing.  So just to clarify, your VIN looks like: "WVWZZZ1KZ6*******", and 1K6 is NOT in your actual 17 digit VIN ???

Aerial looks built in, cant say i have paid too much attention to it..will have another look, however I am sure that TT is correct in these matters....therefore its an 06  :cool:

Yup, a 2006 "model year".

Does that mean, when I come to sell the car, that I can legitimately market it as a (55) 06 ? probably not eh? the year tends to mean its year of registration, doesn't it?  :rolleyes:

Hmm, in the UK, we are quite strict on dates when selling cars.

The established practice (before the numeric year plates were introduced) was to advertise the car by registration letter and registration year - for example - a "1999 T-reg".

For these new plates, the same logic follows, but due to the twice-yearly plate changes, can throw an element of confusion.  Let's take a car registered on 1st February 2006 - this may have a plate something like GE55 XYZ - so you could/should advertise the car as something like "2006 55-plate".

In your specific instance, I'm guessing that your car was registered during the period of 1st September 2005 to 31 December 2005 - if so, you must advertise it as "2005 55-plate".  Of course you can also list it as a "2006 model year", but being as the average UK motoring public won't know about automotive model years, you will need to explain that the model year indicates the programmed minor changes in specification at the production line.  I personally don't know what the 2006 m/y changes were, but for the 2007 m/y, the changes included silver knobs for the radio/SatNav, and deletion of a colour option (to name a couple).

HTH
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 August 2008, 10:50
Mine has 2 ariels on top of the car and in the rear heating element. It switches between the two depending on which one has best signal (so I have been told).

What - two on the roof  :huh: - or one on the roof and one in the rear screen?

Anyway, the multiple aerial configuration improves reception, but requires a separate aerial amplifier (usually mounted within the tailgate), and the head unit needs to be appropriately coded (via VAS505* or VAG-COM).  Audi have been using this system for years, and they call it the "Diversity antenna".
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: RedRobin on 08 August 2008, 10:51
....I'd be inclined to state "06-Build, 05-plate" (if post July 05) as being more precise and accurate. Afterall, I doubt you'd be selling a GTI to any old Jo who wasn't a car enthusiast.
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 August 2008, 10:54
put your vin in here and see what comes out...

http://www.abvwc.org.uk/vw_vin.htm

....Is it a wise idea to let others know your full VIN # on the internet? [in old cynic mode]

Its not wise at all to post your VIN anywhere on the internet (forums, bulletin boards, usenet, blogs, etc) - but that UK site is OK, as it doesn't physically "post" the detail for posterity.  Just make sure your own anti-virus/anti-spyware and firewall are functioning, and if you want to be really cautious, clear all your cookies and browser history.
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: RedRobin on 08 August 2008, 10:55
put your vin in here and see what comes out...

http://www.abvwc.org.uk/vw_vin.htm

....Is it a wise idea to let others know your full VIN # on the internet? [in old cynic mode]

Its not wise at all to post your VIN anywhere on the internet (forums, bulletin boards, usenet, blogs, etc) - but that UK site is OK, as it doesn't physically "post" the detail for posterity.  Just make sure your own anti-virus/anti-spyware and firewall are functioning, and if you want to be really cautious, clear all your cookies and browser history.

....Cheers, T_T :smiley:
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 08 August 2008, 11:04
....I'd be inclined to state "06-Build, 05-plate" (if post July 05) as being more precise and accurate.

But that would still be misleading, and missing the point, and is the basic issue of peeps confusing "calender years" and "model years".  To use your specific example RR, an "06 build" could indcate that the car was built during the entire calendar year of 2006 (which is fine and legal, but is unclear because it doesn't indicate the specific model year); and it could include either a 2006 model year or 2007 model year!  :nerd:

Afterall, I doubt you'd be selling a GTI to any old Jo who wasn't a car enthusiast.

Oh - I dunno.  Whilst in our hearts, here on GolfGTI forum, I'm sure we'd all like our beloved GTIs to go to an "enthusiast" - I would put money on the fact that probably most GTIs are sold to anybody (reps, lease cars, even rentals in Europe) - afterall, Mrs Tamer isn't an "enthusiast".  There is only room for one petrol-head in Teutonic Towers!  :grin:
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: RedRobin on 08 August 2008, 11:08
....Then I would write "06-spec, 05-plate" - But I see your point.

I sold my BMW to an enthusiast, but again I see your point.
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: RedRobin on 08 August 2008, 11:11
....Found the doc - Note it's American : -

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/type17volkswagen/FuelPressureRVU20-08-02_Page_1.jpg)

I printed it and took it to my very helpful VW dealer and he couldn't find anything on their system or network about it. As I said, this was about a month ago.
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: AlanD on 08 August 2008, 11:15
Sorry, Friday morning maddness.

Iv got one on top and one in the rear section. Iv recently replaced my HU and there are 2 are inputs (Im not just using the one on the top).
Title: Re: model and year?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 08 August 2008, 11:19
TT...you seem very well informed, don't suppose you have any information on that steering rack issue? I was in search of a technical bulletin number on here the other day, sadly no one had any information to allow me to present it to my dealer?  Hey I've just hijacked my own post! :)