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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: thunderstarter on 04 August 2008, 13:43
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Hi guys, Im new on this forum, so appologies if this has been discussed countless times before!
Basically I have an 08 plate edition 30 gti. It has the touch screen sat nav with 6 cd in the centre arm rest and multifunction steering wheel (which has a phone button on it). Id like to upgrade to have an ipod either in the armrest or in the glove box. I got a price from VW for the replacement ipod connection in the armrest and it was £250 for the part alone!!!! plus ive since read on forums that you cant actually control your full playlists from the head unit! Which is quite frankly a waste of time.
So are there any other options available that would allow you to control full playlists from the Head unit?
On the bluetooth phone front, Id like to avoid installing a Parrot if possible as I hate clutter on the dash. Ive found this link from a thread:
http://www.octavia-vrs.com/technical/bluetooth.html
Has anyone else installed this in their GTI? It looks very complex!?!? Or are there other options to consider?
Many thanks for any help
Im based in West Yorkshire, so if anyone can recommend good auto electrical installers locally to carry out any work that would be great, its not something id want to attempt myself.
Cheers
Dan
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Firstly hello and welcome.
The bluetooth link is from a guy who is a member of this forum (vrStu), he supplied and fitted the kit on my car, I can highly recommend him. With the RNS-510 and MFSW this will work very well (i.e. Control via either the touchscreen or the MFSW and Highline display).
On the ipod front I would try either: -
Updated VW version (not the one your dealer will be offering, this one allows full touchscreen direct track access) -
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1131_Volkswagen-MDI-Multimediainterface-MEDIA---IN-Golf-5-V.html
Or aftermarket (control via the Highline display and MFSW) - http://www.dension.com/GW100.php
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I've got the factory Sat Nav (MFD2) with the iPod connector and as you say, you can not display artists/albums/tracks, only the playlists you programme in the iPod which are numbered 1 - 6 in the unit (1 - 5 for individual artists/albums and 6 for the whole iPod content). Agree it's poor and a bit of a bummer. As far as the RNS510 Sat Nav unit is concerned, you may be able to download software to give you a speed camera database but with some functionality missing (audio warning). Try looking here for further info:
http://vwnavi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=80aa13b2e64ce3f148addbd6916909e0&f=51
I'm ordering the OEM Bluetooth kit from Stu this week as I prefer the clean factory fit look. PM Stu and he may even be able to assist with the install :undecided:
I'm sure some others on the forum have done the install with no problems. No doubt they will post in response. You do need access to a VAG.com to code the unit to the ECU. I'm sure you will get more info if you search further on the forum:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?action=search2
Cass
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I have Stu's Bluetooth :)
It rocks and is by far the best method in the Golf.
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Firstly hello and welcome.
The bluetooth link is from a guy who is a member of this forum (vrStu), he supplied and fitted the kit on my car, I can highly recommend him. With the RNS-510 and MFSW this will work very well (i.e. Control via either the touchscreen or the MFSW and Highline display).
On the ipod front I would try either: -
Updated VW version (not the one your dealer will be offering, this one allows full touchscreen direct track access) -
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1131_Volkswagen-MDI-Multimediainterface-MEDIA---IN-Golf-5-V.html
Or aftermarket (control via the Highline display and MFSW) - http://www.dension.com/GW100.php
Thanks to everyone for their info. Steve, that KUFATEC unit looks like the monkey Im after! If it replaces the cd changer in the arm rest than thats the option I wanted and if it shows track info on the head unit then even better!!!
I could do with finding out a bit more info on the Bluetooth kit that Stu offers. Coding ECU's etc is starting to freek me out! :-) Does it invalidate warranties?
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Has anyone got any contact details for stuVRS? Ive tried to find a PM or email btn on this forum but there does seem to be one.
Has everyone fitted these units themselves? Ive noticed Steve, you said you had done yours yourself. CocoPops did you fit yours?
Ta
Dan
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Thanks to everyone for their info. Steve, that KUFATEC unit looks like the monkey Im after! If it replaces the cd changer in the arm rest than thats the option I wanted and if it shows track info on the head unit then even better!!!
I could do with finding out a bit more info on the Bluetooth kit that Stu offers. Coding ECU's etc is starting to freek me out! :-) Does it invalidate warranties?
The bluetooth kit vrStu is selling use VAG parts so I can't see any reason why it would affect the warranty unless it maulfactioned and damaged another part (which is not difference to any other type of car kit, if anything I think this is probably the safer option).
VrStu Installed mine, the coding is the reason I went down to see him to get it installed but as you are a quite a bit further north thats probably not a practical option.
To contact him PM him on here (but you will need to have 10 posts first) or just click on the contact me button on the top of the bluetooth install page on his website.
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thanks for the rapid reply and advice Steve.
Cheers
Dan
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thanks for the rapid reply and advice Steve.
Cheers
Dan
No probs, it's helps me while away the afternoon at work. :wink:
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Sorry to hijack the thread but does the OEM bluetooth work without Sat Nav?
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Sorry to hijack the thread but does the OEM bluetooth work without Sat Nav?
Yep as long as you have the Highline display.
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thanks for the rapid reply and advice Steve.
Cheers
Dan
No probs, it's helps me while away the afternoon at work. :wink:
Steve, what interface do you use for your ipod? Is it the standard factory fit or one of the Kufatec or Dension units you mentioned?
Next thing I need to find out is if the Bluetooth and Kufatec units conflict with each other. No reason why they would, but worth checking out before purchase.
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Steve, what interface do you use for your ipod? Is it the standard factory fit or one of the Kufatec or Dension units you mentioned?
Next thing I need to find out is if the Bluetooth and Kufatec units conflict with each other. No reason why they would, but worth checking out before purchase.
I don't have the iPod adapter with mine, I just use a few SD cards to hold the music and put some on the Hard Disk as well. But if I had the choice I would probably go for the Kufatec VW MDI, as you said it fits where the CD changers goes plus it can also support USB sticks as well.
One thing to note is the Kufatec kit doesn't come with the iPod lead, you need to get this from the VW dealer, it's costs £22 IIRC.
Also the MDI and Bluetooth do work together fine.
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Blimey, I dont actually know which Head Unit I have! If its the touch screen sat nav, which unit it is it likely to be? Dont be telling me I had a hard drive hiding behind the dash all this time and SD card slots!!!! :-)
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Can you have Cd multichanger, sat nav and ipod in the same set-up, i thought you could only have one or the other because of the lack of aux inputs, or is that what the dension unit does, allowing more then one aux device?
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Can you have Cd multichanger, sat nav and ipod in the same set-up, i thought you could only have one or the other because of the lack of aux inputs, or is that what the dension unit does, allowing more then one aux device?
The VW MDI iPod adapter is a direct armrest replacement for the CD Changer, so I believe it would be one or the other in this case.
The Dension kit however has an add-on to allow you to retain the CD Changer (I think it's about another £30).
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Blimey, I dont actually know which Head Unit I have! If its the touch screen sat nav, which unit it is it likely to be? Dont be telling me I had a hard drive hiding behind the dash all this time and SD card slots!!!! :-)
Touchscreen nav which looks like this: -
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/1046_2.jpg)
Has a 30GB hard disk (about 18GB usable for music) and the small slot below the screen is for SD cards upto 4Gb in size.
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am I right is saying the Dension unit has the ipod sitting in the glove box? where as the Kufatec item is neater in the arm rest.
Im not bothered about dropping the 6 cd changer to be honest. CD's will be dead in another year or so, its about time car manufacturers started fitting this sort of kit as standard. How long have ipods been around now?
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Blimey, I dont actually know which Head Unit I have! If its the touch screen sat nav, which unit it is it likely to be? Dont be telling me I had a hard drive hiding behind the dash all this time and SD card slots!!!! :-)
Touchscreen nav which looks like this: -
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/1046_2.jpg)
Has a 30GB hard disk (about 18GB usable for music) and the small slot below the screen is for SD cards upto 4Gb in size.
Im checking my paperwork tonight then, as Im sure I was sold a car with touch screen nav (mine was a prebuilt brand new car).
.... and my sat nav dont look anything like that!
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am I right is saying the Dension unit has the ipod sitting in the glove box? where as the Kufatec item is neater in the arm rest.
Im not bothered about dropping the 6 cd changer to be honest. CD's will be dead in another year or so, its about time car manufacturers started fitting this sort of kit as standard. How long have ipods been around now?
The dension could be installed anywhere, but the standard place to put it is the glovebox.
The Kufatec is OEM VW hence the nice armrest integration.
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Does anyone know if the kufatec setup will work with an iPhone?
Thanks
uz
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I did try plug a iphone in to it and it did charge it but not sure if it will work any better than a normal ipod... which by the way is a total pile of cack!
Mine has been sat in the slot for about 6months now not getting any use.. so when i tried to use it the other day, and find that it has actually killed my ipod i was not happy. Dont waste your money on 1!!
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Cheers for the info R32.
The battery on my iPhone isnt great, so I thought rather than have a charger that plugs into the cigarette lighter it'd be neater to retro-fit an armrest which my car turned up without even though one was ordered, and run the ipod lead into there....
Decisions, decisions :undecided:
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I did try plug a iphone in to it and it did charge it but not sure if it will work any better than a normal ipod... which by the way is a total pile of cack!
Mine has been sat in the slot for about 6months now not getting any use.. so when i tried to use it the other day, and find that it has actually killed my ipod i was not happy. Dont waste your money on 1!!
R32, I think we are talking about different iPod adapters, I presume you are referring to the standard VW pile of sh!t one with the playlist access only?
The new VW OEM MDI version from Kufatec is for the newer generation RCD310 & 510 + RNS510 (all touchscreen headunits) and I understand does work with the iphone and allows direct track/album/artist access with song info on the screen.
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I did try plug a iphone in to it and it did charge it but not sure if it will work any better than a normal ipod... which by the way is a total pile of cack!
Mine has been sat in the slot for about 6months now not getting any use.. so when i tried to use it the other day, and find that it has actually killed my ipod i was not happy. Dont waste your money on 1!!
R32, I think we are talking about different iPod adapters, I presume you are referring to the standard VW pile of sh!t one with the playlist access only?
The new VW OEM MDI version from Kufatec is for the newer generation RCD310 & 510 + RNS510 (all touchscreen headunits) and I understand does work with the iphone and allows direct track/album/artist access with song info on the screen.
Ahh i see.. I must have got that wrong then, as I was refering to the one without the touch screen options... mine is just the basic one. But it does charge the phone none the less.
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Steve, do you have the kufatec one? If so, is it worth the money?
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Steve, do you have the kufatec one? If so, is it worth the money?
I don't have it but if I was in the market for an iPod adapter then this would be my choice. I like the way it integrates into the arm and the touchscreen.
I can't see me using it enough given I have a load of SD cards and the 18GB space on my RNS-510 Hard Drive.
The only negative have just read on Vwnavi.com is it can be a bit slow going between pages of track and album lists.
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Has anyone got any contact details for stuVRS? Ive tried to find a PM or email btn on this forum but there does seem to be one.
Has everyone fitted these units themselves? Ive noticed Steve, you said you had done yours yourself. CocoPops did you fit yours?
Ta
Dan
I fitted my bluetooth kit which was supplied by Stu. If you're confident in removing some of the interior trim and stereo then you should be ok. Stu's guide is very good and easy to follow. All done in a couple of hours. Had it coded for free while the car was with VW for some warranty work.
I just need to find a cheap RCD510 now!
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Does anyone know if the kufatec setup will work with an iPhone?
Thanks
uz
As far as i recall, the factory fit iPod which is fitted in the centre armrest will not close properly with the iPhone or similar sized iPod devices such as the iPod Touch. I have the iPod nano (only got a little one :shocked:) and it's OK with that, but anything bigger and the arm rest cannot be fully closed. If the Kufatec setup is the same as the factory fit, you are also likely to have this problem.
Cass
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Does anyone know if the kufatec setup will work with an iPhone?
Thanks
uz
As far as i recall, the factory fit iPod which is fitted in the centre armrest will not close properly with the iPhone or similar sized iPod devices such as the iPod Touch. I have the iPod nano (only got a little one :shocked:) and it's OK with that, but anything bigger and the arm rest cannot be fully closed. If the Kufatec setup is the same as the factory fit, you are also likely to have this problem.
Cass
Someone on this forum recommended a cable (called cablejive) as an extension cable, which can fit into the ipod adapter in the armrest - the cable allows you to control the iphone, charge it and it lays down in the armrest so you can close the lid. Will be ordering this today so will see what it's like.