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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: R32UK on 16 May 2008, 09:06
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Simple scenario. Driving along a single carriageway, national speed limit. Come round a bend to a crappy 4x4 doing 40mph. Pull out and over take. Coming the other way is a copper, just as I pull out to overtake he is coming over the crest of a hill. As I pull in he passes me approximately 3sec later, so it was a very easy overtake and tbh didnt even require me to change down a cog or use full throttle.
My spidey senses got me to look in the rear view and sure enough I see him slam on his brakes, followed by some reverse lights, promptly followed by some blues. Now I only live a very short blast down a country road from here so I was very tempted to see him off :rolleyes: only 6 cars ahead of me prevented this. So he inevitably catches up, and pulls me. The he gets out of his car and shouts "GET OUT OF THE CAR YOUNG MAN". Just to make this a little simpler to explain, everything he says from this point onward is SHOUTED at me. Every question he asks, he doesnt wait for an answer but decideds the next question is more important than my answer!
It was the first question that really got me.. "Tell me why you should still have a driving licence?" answer: "Because I have been driving for 10yrs never been pulled and I havent done anything wrong!". This just seemed to wind him up more... on went the questions. he actually cautiond me as I stepped into the car, which I am guessing is a scare tactic... but im nobody's fool and knew he could never do me for anything but rather than waste more of my time and of course every other tax payers I decided the best thing was to keep quite and let him carry on talking his sh1t about how I should over take people.. Anyway to wind this up he told he was going to let me go (what a f%*king suprise). So after another patrol car had been out and checked my car over.. (itsa 57 plate btw what could possibly be wrong with it???) He then told me next time I wont be so lucky and told me I could go! The Tw4T!!
The whole episode took approx 30mins if you include the time it took to do the checks... and probably cost the tax payer a fair whack if you take into account that it took three of the t1ts that long to work it out!
And then people wonder why others say coppers are kn0b5.. this is a prime example of the kind of crap they do up my way! I hate to think what would have happened if i had spoken to him in the same tone he had spoken to me. Taking into account that I never even went over the 60mph speed limit probably would have spent the night in a pig sty.
I think next time I will use my instincts and just push the fast pedal to the metal :angry:
*rant over*
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How close were you to the crest of the hill and how close was you to the Police car?
if you overtook a car before the crest of a hill with a car coming the other way you're lucky he din't do you for careless driving.
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i reckon hes been reading your previous posts about "what car have you beat in a GTi" :laugh: :laugh:
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bar stewards!!!
And the police wonder why they have image issues with motorists.
The problem is you can't do anything, complain with their badge numbers and you would probably spend the next year getting stopped weekly and nothing would happen to the officer.
I feel for you, but glad it worked out in the end
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How close were you to the crest of the hill and how close was you to the Police car?
if you overtook a car before the crest of a hill with a car coming the other way you're lucky he din't do you for careless driving.
A good 3 sec before he passed me after I had completed the overtake. Just to give you some idea i drive this road 4x a day. Its about a 2mile strech and have actually overtaken up to 6 cars on this strech (not in one go ofcourse). I just wish they would make it clearer what the speed limit is!! The number of people who do 30 onthis strech is a joke!! With traffic coming the other way, sometimes its just not possible.
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i reckon hes been reading your previous posts about "what car have you beat in a GTi" :laugh: :laugh:
If he had read that he would have kept well away. The fact is I was having quite a quiet little cruise home, and not driving enthusiastically at all. Let that mo'fo' try get me again... im leaving him and his vectra estate for dust!!!
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Doesnt suprise me at all, you get good and bad one's - obviously in a bad mood and wanting to make a point.
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I'm dreading the day I get pulled for no reason, because I have absolutely no patience with, or tolerance for idiots, whether uniformed or not.
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I'm dreading the day I get pulled for no reason, because I have absolutely no patience with, or tolerance for idiots, whether uniformed or not.
I feel exactly what your saying there topher!! But having had many many incidents with the T1T5 involved (not driving related) i have realised that unless you want them to waste more of your time the best thing to do is to say as little as possible, dont raise your voice and act as innocent as possible. I am speaking from lots of experience here.. and have tried all possible routes... Never been charged for anything either may I add but have spent a few nights banged up for trying to stick to my guns on principle. They are just power crazed kn0bs... dont stoop to their level they can be even worse once they have got the cuffs on.
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lol.. I don't shout or scream or get abusive, I'm just a naturally sarky and patronising cnut at the best of times... which I know from experience only winds the power-tripping jobsworth minority of coppers up even more :grin:
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How close were you to the crest of the hill and how close was you to the Police car?
if you overtook a car before the crest of a hill with a car coming the other way you're lucky he din't do you for careless driving.
A good 3 sec before he passed me after I had completed the overtake. Just to give you some idea i drive this road 4x a day. Its about a 2mile strech and have actually overtaken up to 6 cars on this strech (not in one go ofcourse). I just wish they would make it clearer what the speed limit is!! The number of people who do 30 onthis strech is a joke!! With traffic coming the other way, sometimes its just not possible.
Seems like you just got a jobsworth out to assert his power over someone with a nice car.
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How close were you to the crest of the hill and how close was you to the Police car?
if you overtook a car before the crest of a hill with a car coming the other way you're lucky he din't do you for careless driving.
A good 3 sec before he passed me after I had completed the overtake. Just to give you some idea i drive this road 4x a day. Its about a 2mile strech and have actually overtaken up to 6 cars on this strech (not in one go ofcourse). I just wish they would make it clearer what the speed limit is!! The number of people who do 30 onthis strech is a joke!! With traffic coming the other way, sometimes its just not possible.
Seems like you just got a jobsworth out to assert his power over someone with a nice car.
Yeah well next time hes gonna have to catch me!! then we will see who the daddy is... I aint getting caught by No Vauxhall! :evil:
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Cant you get into more trouble if you speed off? :huh:
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Cant you get into more trouble if you speed off? :huh:
Only if they catch you :wink:
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Unless you're mad or lucky, they almost always will catch you.
Don't forget - you're on your own - they can call in as many friends as they like - and they have toys like the stinger :laugh:
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Unless you're mad or lucky, they almost always will catch you.
Don't forget - you're on your own - they can call in as many friends as they like - and they have toys like the stinger :laugh:
3 times previously they have tried and failed, so i think I will take my chances. im not mad so im not going to risk my life but if they aint got my plate and im a stones throw from home then im gonna punch it. Esp as i always have the batcave at the ready :wink:
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Does the crest of the hill have the solid white line coming up to it?
I can't see the plods issue if you indicated overtook pulled in before any overtaking restrictions and then there was another 3 seconds before he passed you as you would have been around 150yards apart as you pulled back in.
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Nope. just a usual dotted white line and no overtaking restrictions. i have been thinking about why he wouldbe so pi$$ed off and the only conclusion I can come to is that as I was on his side of the road as he came over the crest of the hill my xenons would have probably been shinning very brightly into his eyes. That maybe why he was fuming when he finally caught up... but who knows, maybe he was just pi$$ed at the fact that I was in a VW and he was in a crappy Vauxhall!! Tw4T!!!
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I get pulled from time to time, sometimes for my driving but mostly because of my age. Being quite young they seem to like to pull me for a few checks which really really pisses me off!! Like people say you get good cops and bad cops but invariably they are complete idiots who I have no time for whatsoever. I have a theory that the idiots were bullied as children and they are getting revenge on motorists. I got wound up and lost my cool once and that just got me into more trouble. If I get pulled now I just keep calm and agree to everything they say.
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Only ever been pulled over twice, once for having someone on my roof (dont ask, long story) and the other was for not having a seat belt and apparently not having insurance (which I did) so I guess I have been pretty lucky with the fuzz. I bet get pulled on my way to Loughbough tonight now lol :D
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Guess you'll just have to put this down to experience. Pointless getting wound up about it. If you haven't contravened any road traffic legislation and your driving didn't warrant being done for due care or recklessness, then there's no way you could get done. Winding up plod is another matter though :shocked:
Don't forget if you try to leg it, they will simply check your plate and arrive at your home address. Some cars have video and there are plenty of CCTV cameras about these days (public and private systems). Not worth the hassle IMHO.
Cass
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Yeah, what Cass said, if he was coming the other way he would have had your plate looking back on the CCTV in his car (which more and more have these days, and they will def have it if their traffic police).
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Unless you're mad or lucky, they almost always will catch you.
Don't forget - you're on your own - they can call in as many friends as they like - and they have toys like the stinger :laugh:
3 times previously they have tried and failed, so i think I will take my chances. im not mad so im not going to risk my life but if they aint got my plate and im a stones throw from home then im gonna punch it. Esp as i always have the batcave at the ready :wink:
Lol :laugh:
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exactly, if it was me and i wasnt coming upto a brow of a hill or something, id try get away too. without being stupid obviouslly. park in someones drive and turn off your lights.. (if dark) :)
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on a positive note, if they did have cctv on board at least it would mean a new clip of a top golf on Roadwars (sky three). Getting fed up with the all the repeats recently on freeview :D
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Is the batcave your garage, thats a cool name for it if it is. :wink:
I'm having a batcave built soon for my GTI and I'll be able to polish it when the suns out!
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There are good and bad in every job - after all police officers come from society .....
The caution as you get out is standard and not a scare tactic - something the law now requires .....
I am a traffic cop - but like most in traffic I love cars and am realistic about 'nice' cars, roads and drivers :wink:
I got stopped a couple of weeks ago driving my dads 20 year old Metro (whilst waiting for the Ed 30 to be delivered !). The guy who stopped me (100m from where I had just finished work!) was polite but kept me waiting for the checks to come back as he didn't think I had insurance. I just wanted to get home but at least he was polite.
As for making off .... not hugely advisable - it's not just Stinger you have to worry about but TPAC .... i.e. ramming/blocking of your pride and joy. I am sure most people on here wouldn't consider it - I hope !!
If you are not happy with the way a police officer talks to you or they are plain out of order with their manner - and I would stress that you haven't 'asked' for it ..... then complain - simple as that. All complaints no matter how minor are dealt with and the officers Inspector will get seriously fed up if he keeps getting complaints about an officers attitude to deal with .....
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....Anyone who tries to do a runner from a police car is frankly stupid and deserves to lose their licence and more. The reality is that the police have all sorts of means at their disposal and will catch you sooner or later even if it's another day and then the charges against you will be a whole lot worse. If you think that the officer is in the wrong, just report it all afterwards through the appropriate channels.
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I am a traffic cop - but like most in traffic I love cars and am realistic about 'nice' cars, roads and drivers :wink:
Is it true traffic cops turn a blind eye to cars going 80 MPH on a sensible road such as a dual carriageway?
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I am a traffic cop - but like most in traffic I love cars and am realistic about 'nice' cars, roads and drivers :wink:
Is it true traffic cops turn a blind eye to cars going 80 MPH on a sensible road such as a dual carriageway?
....It's not just about the type of road (dual carriageway) is it. Style of driving (tailgating for example) and traffic density are just two of all the other factors. Wet road?
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I hate the tossers that tailgate. I always make a habit of slowing down further just to prove a point.
I'm referring to driving at 80 MPH on a dry day, very good visibility and sparce traffic. Obviously travelling fast when wet/high traffic density is a very bad idea.
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I am a traffic cop - but like most in traffic I love cars and am realistic about 'nice' cars, roads and drivers :wink:
Is it true traffic cops turn a blind eye to cars going 80 MPH on a sensible road such as a dual carriageway?
I do ... so long as the dual carraigeway is a 70 limit ...... but I am only one individual .... :wink:
I would think most officers have something far better to do than stopping a driver doing 80 in a 70 - unless you go past them at 80 as that implies you are not paying attention to what is around you ....
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That's what I thought. Cheers matey. :cool:
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My 2 pence worth is that I'm sure any traffic Policeman who has been to a road accident would try to recommend to any people he came across driving fast or reckless to slow down a bit.
I watched a TV program recently where a young girl who was a passenger in a car that had rolled over died while holding an officers hand as he kept her company waiting for an Ambulance to attend.
Where I live, althought the speed limit is 35mph, there have been a lot of fatalities involving young people in high powered cars. With it being a small Island, you sometimes know of the person involved, and that makes it hit home and you appreciate what the Police have to deal with. Even though you may be p$ssed of at being stopped, being polite and honest will always pay off.
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I appreciate all the replies and the advice too. Im not a lunatic so I am not going to risk my life getting away from them... but in this instance I would have got to my junction and turned off... up a short hill and by then he would have been pretty good to guess which way I have gone.
I knew he would have cctv in his car (being a traffic cop) which is why I was quite confident if i took the matter further i.e a complaint I would have asked them to track down the driver I over took and ask him his opinion on my driving. Either way he wouldnt have got me. im not saying its the right thing to do.. its just what I would do as i know my area very well and know that he simply wouldnt know where i went. so regardless of him turning up at my house there aint shizzel he can do about it. :grin: :grin:
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Story I've heard, second-hand but from someone who was apparently 'there', I'll leave it up to yourselves to decide whether it's true, or how much truth is in it.
(I told this story to my brother, he's an ex-bike cop and he says that when you're on a bike you're a biker first and a bobby second.)
Anyway - this lad and three or four of his mates were on their motorbikes, fairly high-powered stuff, on a weekend jaunt. They always behave very sensibly in town and when there's traffic around but would let rip in the country.
They were doing 30 in a 30 limit and noticed that a couple of police motorcyclists were behind them / following them. They weren't doing anything wrong so weren't concerned. The police followed them for about 15 minutes through a variety of road conditions and obviously decided these lads were good motorcyclists.
They then hit a national speed limit area and naturally the lads increased their speed up to 60, but no more as there were police behind them.
One of the police motorcyclists then overtook them, and started slowing down. The lads were a bit confused by this, but as there were no signals from the police they would overtake when they could, but stick to 60.
This overtaking / slowing down happened 3 or 4 times in the countryside, one of the lads got p!ssed off and just thought foook this, and really let rip, overtaking the police motorcyclist in front.
Anyway - the police started racing the lads, hitting 100-120 mph on country roads. This went on for miles and miles.
They hit a town and the police peeled off, giving the lads 'thumbs ups' but reminding them also to 'calm down' with hand signals (think Harry Enfield's Scousers :smiley:)
Just shows you - the police are human too - and so long as you are seen to be behaving yourself you'll be left well alone.
M
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Story I've heard, second-hand but from someone who was apparently 'there', I'll leave it up to yourselves to decide whether it's true, or how much truth is in it.
(I told this story to my brother, he's an ex-bike cop and he says that when you're on a bike you're a biker first and a bobby second.)
Anyway - this lad and three or four of his mates were on their motorbikes, fairly high-powered stuff, on a weekend jaunt. They always behave very sensibly in town and when there's traffic around but would let rip in the country.
They were doing 30 in a 30 limit and noticed that a couple of police motorcyclists were behind them / following them. They weren't doing anything wrong so weren't concerned. The police followed them for about 15 minutes through a variety of road conditions and obviously decided these lads were good motorcyclists.
They then hit a national speed limit area and naturally the lads increased their speed up to 60, but no more as there were police behind them.
One of the police motorcyclists then overtook them, and started slowing down. The lads were a bit confused by this, but as there were no signals from the police they would overtake when they could, but stick to 60.
This overtaking / slowing down happened 3 or 4 times in the countryside, one of the lads got p!ssed off and just thought foook this, and really let rip, overtaking the police motorcyclist in front.
Anyway - the police started racing the lads, hitting 100-120 mph on country roads. This went on for miles and miles.
They hit a town and the police peeled off, giving the lads 'thumbs ups' but reminding them also to 'calm down' with hand signals (think Harry Enfield's Scousers :smiley:)
Just shows you - the police are human too - and so long as you are seen to be behaving yourself you'll be left well alone.
M
There are SOME decent cops out of there that will let you have a bit of fun in an safe environment but don't forget there are also some right tossers out there too.
Nice to read the story anyway, if it's true that is. :smiley:
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I get pulled from time to time, sometimes for my driving but mostly because of my age. Being quite young they seem to like to pull me for a few checks which really really pisses me off!! Like people say you get good cops and bad cops but invariably they are complete idiots who I have no time for whatsoever. I have a theory that the idiots were bullied as children and they are getting revenge on motorists. I got wound up and lost my cool once and that just got me into more trouble. If I get pulled now I just keep calm and agree to everything they say.
same here, i got pulled 14 times in my first 1 1/2 years of driving, ive been driving about 4 years now and am well over 20 times, also i have only ever been proscuted once for doing between 95 and 105 on the motorway, got 5 points. and a 150 pounds fine, but i have had a crash and wrote of my ctr :embarassed: :embarassed: 6 month ban :sick:
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I personally do not have any issues with the cops. My mom got her first ever speeding fine in the GTi (Heaven knows how..She drives the thing like its a Corsa) and I think that what the cops do is good.
Obviously in your case R32UK you got a bad cop. But maybe you should rather not let this get to you. Lay a complaint and in the big picture. We all have bad days. Just be happy that the plod has left you alone with all the races you have had. And that you have had a few lucky escapes.
And maybe check the Xenons... Maybe they are a bit off centre :wink:
Mike
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same here, i got pulled 14 times in my first 1 1/2 years of driving, ive been driving about 4 years now and am well over 20 times, also i have only ever been proscuted once for doing between 95 and 105 on the motorway, got 5 points. and a 150 pounds fine, but i have had a crash and wrote of my ctr :embarassed: :embarassed: 6 month ban :sick:
FOOK ME JOE !
And I thought my insurance on my new toy was high, I've got goose bumps thinking what yours is ! lol :D
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In a couple of words.... Copper B@stards...
They are over officious and zealous eager tossers who try their damnest to achieve their monthly pulling targets :evil:
Meanwhile, the blind old fecker who pees his pants whilst driving, cant see for his bi-focal glasses, cant judge the speed of the road and steps on his brakes at the merest inflection of a fly on his windscreen whilst reaching for his Wuthers Originals, who most probably is also still drunk from the night before on whisky or furniture polish gets away scot free whilst causing total chaos and caranage behind him.... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Alternatively and in my calmer moments of reflection......the traffic cops are lovely people and its only the very few who spoil what would be an otherwise untarnished barrel of apples. :laugh:
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In a couple of words.... Copper B@stards...
They are over officious and zealous eager tossers who try their damnest to achieve their monthly pulling targets :evil:
Meanwhile, the blind old fecker who pees his pants whilst driving, cant see for his bi-focal glasses, cant judge the speed of the road and steps on his brakes at the merest inflection of a fly on his windscreen whilst reaching for his Wuthers Originals, who most probably is also still drunk from the night before on whisky or furniture polish gets away scot free whilst causing total chaos and caranage behind him.... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Alternatively and in my calmer moments of reflection......the traffic cops are lovely people and its only the very few who spoil what would be an otherwise untarnished barrel of apples. :laugh:
LMAO I just spilled diet coke all over my desk reading that, well made me burst out laughing! Loving the bit about Wurthers, those adverts make the old man look dodgy handing young kids sweeties!!!
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I think thats why I havent seen one of them adverts in a good few years ! :D
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6044/1209385744052ut8.jpg)
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Brilliant!
I was considering putting that up :laugh: :grin:
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LMAO thats funny!
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A friend of mine is a (non-traffic) policeman in the North East.
He admits to being a terrible driver when he's driving his own car. Recently he got pulled for speeding (and it was serious speeding, something like 50 in a 30 or something like that).
Anyway - the cop who pulled him actually knew him, gave him an absolute b*llocking for about 15 mins. Didn't book him in the end, "discretion is the better part of valour" I suppose, but hopefully it's taught him a lesson.
M
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Im sure it would have been different if it was just joe public driving. one rule for them.. another for the rest of us! No offence to your mate but if he is a copper and is driving at that speed in public then he really should be in trouble more than any of us deserve...
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Im sure it would have been different if it was just joe public driving. one rule for them.. another for the rest of us!
....No, not necessarily. The last two times I've been stopped it was for well over 90 and on the last occasion I was followed for about 10 miles. I didn't get tickets or fines but was driving 'text book' style as trained. Discretion was used in both cases, I'm very glad to say. It has slowed me down in the UK though!
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50 in a 30 would almost definately get you points if not a ban if you were pulled by a kn0b jockey like I was. I can see the reason for discretion being used on a motorway as conditions can vary quite a bit. but on a 30... I cant see anyone getting away with that tbh.
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but on a 30... I cant see anyone getting away with that tbh.
unless you're a bobby who knows the bobby who's pulled him :huh: