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Title: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: vw_sales on 09 April 2008, 16:43
New Golf GTI Pirelli specification
The Golf GTI Pirelli has the same high specification as the outgoing Edition 30,
including six airbags, 2Zone electronic climate control, darkened rear light clusters
and body-coloured front, rear and side spoilers. The Pirelli also has the following
features which differ to those on the Edition 30:
Exterior
• 18” ‘Pirelli II’ alloy wheels and 225/40 R18 Pirelli tyres. (Fig 1)
• Tinted rear windows
• Metallic/pearl effect paint as standard
Interior
• Sports seats – outer sections in ‘Vienna’ leather; centre of seats in Alcantara
with tyre tread pattern (Fig 2)
• Yellow stitching on steering wheel, gear knob, handbrake, seats and
headrests (Fig 3)
• Pirelli lettering on front head restraints
• Front centre armrest with storage compartment
Page 2
Colours
The GTI Pirelli will be available in the following colours:
• Reflex Silver metallic
• Diamond Black pearl
• Blue Graphite pearl
(Metallic/pearl effect is free of charge)
Options
Options for the GTI Pirelli will be the same as for the Edition 30, except for tinted glass
and front centre armrest (which are now standard) and colours (details above).
Pricing
Prices for the Golf GTI Pirelli will be the same as those for the Edition 30:
Trim Engine and bodystyle Basic RRP VAT Total RRP OTR
Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd Man 3dr £18,561.70 £3,248.30 £21,810.00 £22,555.00
Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd Man 5dr £18,987.23 £3,322.77 £22,310.00 £23,055.00
Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd DSG 3dr £19,693.62 £3,446.38 £23,140.00 £23,885.00
Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd DSG 5dr £20,119.15 £3,520.85 £23,640.00 £24,385.00
Production
Production of the Golf GTI Pirelli will start from week 19 (5 May 2008), and the first
vehicles will arrive in the UK in June.


The popularity of this model and the planned arrival of the Golf MK6 in early 2009,
mean 2300 examples of the Edition 30 will have been produced by the end of its life. It
was an honest mistake that the model exceeded its planned volume restriction and it
was never Volkswagen’s intention to mislead customers.
Page 3
To address potential customer concerns about effects this may have on residual
values, Volkswagen has been in contact with CAP, Glass’s and Emmox. They do not
foresee an impact on resale values.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: joesgti on 09 April 2008, 16:48
cool, id have one in silver, stick some bbs ch alloys on and id have a nice ed30 :tongue:

why are they not doing it in that yellow, it was pure sex!!!

also are these being numbered?? like the anni?? if so why wasnt the ed30 as i believe that numbering them makes them far more exclusive to the owner  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: SteveS on 09 April 2008, 16:52
yeah they should have had numberes!
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Russ.C on 09 April 2008, 16:55
Not a bad package compared to the ED30 now you ain't got to have it in yellow!  :sick: (might be nice in the blue)  Not sure on that yellow stitching though! And I don't think I'd want 'Pirelli' stamped on the inside and outside of my car! Nice to get the tints and armrest included to! Anyone interested in one?
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 April 2008, 17:23
 :shocked:. 2300 sales of ed30 to approx 3500 to 4000 GTi's, doesnt make ed30 that much more exclusive does it?  :sad:

Vw sales, do u know what is actually the resale value of both ed30 and standard GTi??? in percentage . Would u as a dealer offer more for an ed30  then a standard GTi, or would u treat both the same as in condition, mileage, and factory fitted extras which seems to make most difference.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: vw_sales on 09 April 2008, 17:43
ed 30 is probably worth 500 more than the gti.

But i have to add before people go off there nut, there are no figures for the ed 30 yet.

Options dont count in trade figures.

They dont list options in the book.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 April 2008, 18:01
websites do now ask for what extra's are fitted, so i have to disagree with you on this one, and also having recently sold an 05 high spec GTi for £17500, whereas normal condition ones sell for a few grand less. hense why vw resale prices with options vary due to ammount of options on the car. You have to be very silly to chop your GTi for £14k only for the dealer to resale on for £19k because its loaded with extra bits. So extras DO count but dealers wont admit that. More £ in their pocket.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Hurdy on 09 April 2008, 18:02
Yellow is optional anyway and so wouldn't be listed.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 April 2008, 18:04
£500 only between the 2 models, ok im slightly more happy knowing that as a "normal Gti" owner, but if i was an ed30 owner, i would be slightly miffed.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: 182_blue on 09 April 2008, 18:10
£500 only between the 2 models, ok im slightly more happy knowing that as a "normal Gti" owner, but if i was an ed30 owner, i would slightly miffed.

why, i paid the same for my ed30 as i would of the normal GTi , in theory in £500 up  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 April 2008, 18:18
no 182_blue, i mean in years to come, not talking about current figures.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: 182_blue on 09 April 2008, 18:23
i dont understand ?, what does "years to come matter" ?, i paid no more than a normal GTI what does it matter what it sells for in the future ?, also if you sell to a dealer there always going to say its worth no more (or very little) than a normal GTi, a car is worth what someone will pay for it and if in 2 years time for instance someone wants an edition 30 they may or may not pay a premium for it, i personally did not want a GTI and wanted a ed30, and if this was a few years down the line i would have paid a premium to get the better car IMO of course
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: CocoPops on 09 April 2008, 18:35
An honest mistake to build 800more cars than originally planned and announced?!?

That nearly a 50% overrun!!!
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Hurdy on 09 April 2008, 19:26
It doesn't really bother me whether they overmade. It bothers me that they can say it was a mistake :angry:

I can't really see that theextra production will affect residuals, just the image of the Edition 30 being a 1500 ltd edition run.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: R32UK on 09 April 2008, 19:33
As a potential buyer of a Gti in the future.. I would have to say that a car that is part of a limited run of 1500 does sound slightly more appealing! However if you were looking to buy a ED30 and there were loads for sale... its natural that the price you end up paying will be a little lower. The opposite would definately true if there were only a few listed for sale... its all down to supply and demand. Who knows how many of them are still on the production line??

But the release of the Pirrelli edition certainly means the Ed30 will not be as exclusive as once originally though.. A shame really as VW seems to (as usual) be more interested in just flooding the market and keeping their pockets lined.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: topher on 09 April 2008, 19:41
'mistake' ... lol

shows how naive they think Joe Public is.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Steve78 on 09 April 2008, 20:40
'mistake' ... lol

shows how naive they think Joe Public is.

It amazes me that people are that bothered.  Who buys a car as an investment anyway?  It's still a limited edition, regardless of numbers.  And if people really want to buy something exclusive, then don't buy a Volkswagen.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: telboy on 09 April 2008, 20:47
Never been a fan of Pirelli tyres, surely if you have a Pirelli GTI you'd look stupid putting anything other than Pirelli boots on it?????

As a limited edition (there I go again, using the word edition), the ed30 according to my mate in the trade will always be far more in demand than the Pirelli version, I guess time will tell.

All I know is, the ed30 with Bluefin is an awesome car and I would time and time again buy the ed30 over the Pirelli GTI.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: 182_blue on 09 April 2008, 20:54
'mistake' ... lol

shows how naive they think Joe Public is.

It amazes me that people are that bothered.  Who buys a car as an investment anyway?  It's still a limited edition, regardless of numbers.  And if people really want to buy something exclusive, then don't buy a Volkswagen.

 :cool: :cool: there speaks a man with sense , live for today folks as tomorrow may never come  :smiley:

ps, the ironic thing is posts like this really dont help the situation, and only serves to draw peoples attention to it, in theory your devaluing your own car LOL
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: vw_sales on 09 April 2008, 21:07
websites do now ask for what extra's are fitted, so i have to disagree with you on this one, and also having recently sold an 05 high spec GTi for £17500, whereas normal condition ones sell for a few grand less. hense why vw resale prices with options vary due to ammount of options on the car. You have to be very silly to chop your GTi for £14k only for the dealer to resale on for £19k because its loaded with extra bits. So extras DO count but dealers wont admit that. More £ in their pocket.


What web site are those then, i'll tell you which ones, the ones you as a consumer have to pay for.

Take it from someone who does this for a living, if you buy a car as a standard car lets say £ 20k, and you put on that car leather £ 1800, dvd nav £ 1800, That now makes the car value £ 23600, if in three years you trade it to a dealer, you car that cost you £3600 more with those options is worth a touch more than the guy who took the standard car.

Options are a choice, its a personal thing, yes selling it privatly it looks more atractive if it has those things, but only to some one looking for them.

Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 April 2008, 21:22
so why is it ive bought and sold back 2 vw's , 1x passat sport and 1x Mk5 GTi and a higher resale price then whats book price. Could be a rare good dealer or an honest one, or are you one of the dishonest dealers. PLease check glasses guide online and it asked for factory extra's fitted. Sorry vw sales, your like the rest of the car dealers, rip off merchants, My local vw dealer has sold both my cars on both making at least 2 grand on each sale but also giving me more then book price.
So your saying, sorry mate, ill give you £14500, cus its on 05, then cus its loaded with extra's put on the forecourt after he's gone for £18995.Or would you please tell us why some GTi's are worth £2000 more of the same age on a second hand forecourt. "yeah this one has sat nav and Leather and xenons" and "yea this ones hasnt got any of those " hense the price increase.
Im glad im not local to your dealership if thats how you operate, i bet you loose loads of possible bussiness.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Hurdy on 09 April 2008, 21:25
Steady guys!
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 April 2008, 21:32
sorry hurdy, i hate dealers that give you all the b4llsh!t in the world about it makes f4ck all difference in resale. total b$llocks :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: neg on 09 April 2008, 21:34
A car with options might not 'trade' for more but it should be easier to sell as its more desirable ... hence why a dealer may pay over standard book price knowing that they will make more and sell it quicker.

I like the sound of the Pirelli but not sure I want it branded on the car, can you confirm the stitching is yellow on all colours?
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Greenouse on 09 April 2008, 21:38
Im well chuffed I've just PAID for centre arm rest and tints  :embarassed: Nice one VW  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 09 April 2008, 21:40
A car with options might not 'trade' for more but it should be easier to sell as its more desirable ... hence why a dealer may pay over standard book price knowing that they will make more and sell it quicker.

I like the sound of the Pirelli but not sure I want it branded on the car, can you confirm the stitching is yellow on all colours?

it will be yellow  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: k4ith on 09 April 2008, 22:16
2300 a well maybe Vw will send me a wee number now to comemorate it lol, really couldn't give a sh@t how many they make its a better package all round than the gti, hence why i never bought one when they first came out.I knew the ed30 was worth waiting for as the orig mk5gti didn't live up to my expectations.
If you now your VW's you can spot an ED30 over a gti a mile away(well i can)But Phil's correct you will always come of 2nd best to a dealer as at the end of the day less for you = more for them, its there job they need to earn wether its by hook or by crook so i dont really get offended but I always sell privately as i always get more.
As for the Pirrelli i would buy it over the gti, but yellow stitching hmmm.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: topher on 09 April 2008, 22:21
'mistake' ... lol

shows how naive they think Joe Public is.

It amazes me that people are that bothered.  Who buys a car as an investment anyway?  It's still a limited edition, regardless of numbers.  And if people really want to buy something exclusive, then don't buy a Volkswagen.

i can see why some people might be bothered, doesn't affect me either way so I don't care in the least... i'm only interested in how VW are dealing with the situation.. comedy so far :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: R32UK on 10 April 2008, 09:28
A car is just that.. in the end its always going to depreciate! If you havent worked out the "real cost" of ownership of your cars then you may be in for a shock when you take your year old car back into the dealership and he offers you 5k less than what you paid.

Have also read that used car market (like the rest of the economy) are going to take a real hit over the next couple of years. If like me you leased your car.... I just give it back after 2yrs :smug: No final payments or worrying about how hard its been driven for 2yrs.. just hand back the keys and go shopping for a new one! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: joesgti on 10 April 2008, 09:49
2300 a well maybe Vw will send me a wee number now to comemorate it lol, really couldn't give a sh@t how many they make its a better package all round than the gti, hence why i never bought one when they first came out.I knew the ed30 was worth waiting for as the orig mk5gti didn't live up to my expectations.
If you now your VW's you can spot an ED30 over a gti a mile away(well i can)But Phil's correct you will always come of 2nd best to a dealer as at the end of the day less for you = more for them, its there job they need to earn wether its by hook or by crook so i dont really get offended but I always sell privately as i always get more.
As for the Pirrelli i would buy it over the gti, but yellow stitching hmmm.

why do you dislike the std gti so much???  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 10 April 2008, 10:03
R32uk, i really dont understand why you pay so much money for something that in reality isnt yours at any stage????
 surely your the one thats wasting money?????
A car is just that.. in the end its always going to depreciate! If you havent worked out the "real cost" of ownership of your cars then you may be in for a shock when you take your year old car back into the dealership and he offers you 5k less than what you paid.

Have also read that used car market (like the rest of the economy) are going to take a real hit over the next couple of years. If like me you leased your car.... I just give it back after 2yrs :smug: No final payments or worrying about how hard its been driven for 2yrs.. just hand back the keys and go shopping for a new one! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Steve78 on 10 April 2008, 11:31
2300 a well maybe Vw will send me a wee number now to comemorate it lol, really couldn't give a sh@t how many they make its a better package all round than the gti, hence why i never bought one when they first came out.I knew the ed30 was worth waiting for as the orig mk5gti didn't live up to my expectations.
If you now your VW's you can spot an ED30 over a gti a mile away(well i can)But Phil's correct you will always come of 2nd best to a dealer as at the end of the day less for you = more for them, its there job they need to earn wether its by hook or by crook so i dont really get offended but I always sell privately as i always get more.
As for the Pirrelli i would buy it over the gti, but yellow stitching hmmm.

If the GTI was such a disappointment, why do you love the ED30 so much?  They are essentially the same thing.

Regarding spotting the ED30 over a GTI from a mile away, you must have some incredible eyes.  But in my opinion, the Monza II's on the GTI give it a real edge over the ED30 & R32 in terms of looks.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: vw_sales on 10 April 2008, 11:37
so why is it ive bought and sold back 2 vw's , 1x passat sport and 1x Mk5 GTi and a higher resale price then whats book price. Could be a rare good dealer or an honest one, or are you one of the dishonest dealers. PLease check glasses guide online and it asked for factory extra's fitted. Sorry vw sales, your like the rest of the car dealers, rip off merchants, My local vw dealer has sold both my cars on both making at least 2 grand on each sale but also giving me more then book price.
So your saying, sorry mate, ill give you £14500, cus its on 05, then cus its loaded with extra's put on the forecourt after he's gone for £18995.Or would you please tell us why some GTi's are worth £2000 more of the same age on a second hand forecourt. "yeah this one has sat nav and Leather and xenons" and "yea this ones hasnt got any of those " hense the price increase.
Im glad im not local to your dealership if thats how you operate, i bet you loose loads of possible bussiness.



Sorry mate, missed this, but i'll answer if i can.

Remember i dont make the rules i just follw them.

Basiclly ever car has a trade value, weather it be £ 500 quid or £ 15000, its value is its value, regardless of options.

If you buy a new polo for instance you could get £ 300 discount, so You now get £ 800 trade in price, Your car has not altered, some dont ask for discount, they just accept the £ 500 quid and say thanks.

Now if you buy a high end car you might get up to £ 2000 off, but still the value of your car does not change they lump it together offer you £ 17000 and most, not all but most people think, i paid £ 21000, they have offered me £ 17000, where do i sign.

My advise, always , always , always, always, sell your car privatly, before you go to the dealer, you will save loads.

Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 10 April 2008, 11:44
2300 a well maybe Vw will send me a wee number now to comemorate it lol, really couldn't give a sh@t how many they make its a better package all round than the gti, hence why i never bought one when they first came out.I knew the ed30 was worth waiting for as the orig mk5gti didn't live up to my expectations.
If you now your VW's you can spot an ED30 over a gti a mile away(well i can)But Phil's correct you will always come of 2nd best to a dealer as at the end of the day less for you = more for them, its there job they need to earn wether its by hook or by crook so i dont really get offended but I always sell privately as i always get more.
As for the Pirrelli i would buy it over the gti, but yellow stitching hmmm.

If the GTI was such a disappointment, why do you love the ED30 so much?  They are essentially the same thing.

Regarding spotting the ED30 over a GTI from a mile away, you must have some incredible eyes.  But in my opinion, the Monza II's on the GTI give it a real edge over the ED30 & R32 in terms of looks.
I too like the monza more over the pescara's

If it was put this way then. Normal GTi was the same look as edition 30 and was 1st released out of the two models, had body coloured bumpers, half leather  etc etc, forget the extra hp bit because that really is imaterial tbh.Pescara's,
And then the ED 30 comes along with 18 Monza II alloys, Full leather , black trim to set the two models apart, ok has same 230 hp engine.Which one would you go for???????
 I think the current standard model would get the Most plawdits.

Thats the only thing imo the ed30 is better currently because it has more HP, and gets more attention.  But before the insults fly, i love both cars and wouldnt turn down either if offered with decent spec.

Im not one for chipping and geting the car to do silly speeds. i prefer the way it looks more.   anyone else have any thoughts?
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: R32UK on 10 April 2008, 12:20
R32uk, i really dont understand why you pay so much money for something that in reality isnt yours at any stage????
 surely your the one thats wasting money?????
A car is just that.. in the end its always going to depreciate! If you havent worked out the "real cost" of ownership of your cars then you may be in for a shock when you take your year old car back into the dealership and he offers you 5k less than what you paid.

Have also read that used car market (like the rest of the economy) are going to take a real hit over the next couple of years. If like me you leased your car.... I just give it back after 2yrs :smug: No final payments or worrying about how hard its been driven for 2yrs.. just hand back the keys and go shopping for a new one! :evil:


Why would you want to own something that depreciates?? Plus i find the folowing benifits also help:-

My R32 cost me less than most pay for their GTi's.
I get a brand new car every 2 years.
I dont put down any deposit. (no money tied up in my car)
I dont have to worry about residuals. (MK VI or no MK VI)
I give the car back to VW regardless of how hard/softly its been driven.
I dont pay road tax.
I dont pay for any roadside cover as i get it from VW.
Probably wont even need a new set of tires over the 2 years.

Its simple hassle free motoring, without having to worry about any unexpected maintenance costs... and the most important thing is that I kow exactly how much my 2yrs of motoring in my R32 is going to cost me. I would have to be mad to buy a car!! unless a) I was planning on modding b)I was going to keep it for a long time c) I do galactic miles (which I dont).
 
Its a no brainer :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Steve78 on 10 April 2008, 12:32
R32uk, i really dont understand why you pay so much money for something that in reality isnt yours at any stage????
 surely your the one thats wasting money?????
A car is just that.. in the end its always going to depreciate! If you havent worked out the "real cost" of ownership of your cars then you may be in for a shock when you take your year old car back into the dealership and he offers you 5k less than what you paid.

Have also read that used car market (like the rest of the economy) are going to take a real hit over the next couple of years. If like me you leased your car.... I just give it back after 2yrs :smug: No final payments or worrying about how hard its been driven for 2yrs.. just hand back the keys and go shopping for a new one! :evil:


Why would you want to own something that depreciates?? Plus i find the folowing benifits also help:-

My R32 cost me less than most pay for their GTi's.
I get a brand new car every 2 years.
I dont put down any deposit. (no money tied up in my car)
I dont have to worry about residuals. (MK VI or no MK VI)
I give the car back to VW regardless of how hard/softly its been driven.
I dont pay road tax.
I dont pay for any roadside cover as i get it from VW.
Probably wont even need a new set of tires over the 2 years.

Its simple hassle free motoring, without having to worry about any unexpected maintenance costs... and the most important thing is that I kow exactly how much my 2yrs of motoring in my R32 is going to cost me. I would have to be mad to buy a car!! unless a) I was planning on modding b)I was going to keep it for a long time c) I do galactic miles (which I dont).
 
Its a no brainer :grin: :grin:

Not that I'd ever do what you are doing but I can see why some people do it (although a lot of people prefer to lease something much more prestigious than a Golf!).

It's like renting at the end of the day.  It's dead money, but it's hassle free.

Out of interest, how much do you pay per month?
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 10 April 2008, 12:45
2nd that, how much do you pay?????
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: joesgti on 10 April 2008, 13:48
3rd!! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: R32UK on 10 April 2008, 15:02
£295 pm  :grin: :grin: +vat which gets put through my business anyway! A £28k car for only £350pm If you go ask your local dealership for how much they want to charge you for the R32 over a 2yr period dont be suprised to hear a quote of £500+
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Steve78 on 10 April 2008, 15:14
£295 pm  :grin: :grin: +vat which gets put through my business anyway! A £28k car for only £350pm If you go ask your local dealership for how much they want to charge you for the R32 over a 2yr period dont be suprised to hear a quote of £500+

Not too bad.  Which company is that with?  I have a few mates who are after a scheme like that.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: R32UK on 10 April 2008, 15:52
£295 pm  :grin: :grin: +vat which gets put through my business anyway! A £28k car for only £350pm If you go ask your local dealership for how much they want to charge you for the R32 over a 2yr period dont be suprised to hear a quote of £500+

Not too bad.  Which company is that with?  I have a few mates who are after a scheme like that.

Its no longer available, but was through VW Wakefield. They have set up their own net based company to which you can find the link on this page

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing-special-offer/VWBESTBUYS/Volkswagen/Golf/10638578/
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: chrissyr32 on 10 April 2008, 15:57
R32uk, i really dont understand why you pay so much money for something that in reality isnt yours at any stage????
 surely your the one thats wasting money?????
A car is just that.. in the end its always going to depreciate! If you havent worked out the "real cost" of ownership of your cars then you may be in for a shock when you take your year old car back into the dealership and he offers you 5k less than what you paid.

Have also read that used car market (like the rest of the economy) are going to take a real hit over the next couple of years. If like me you leased your car.... I just give it back after 2yrs :smug: No final payments or worrying about how hard its been driven for 2yrs.. just hand back the keys and go shopping for a new one! :evil:
HERE! HERE! COUDNT PUT IT BETTER MYSELF. :wink:


Why would you want to own something that depreciates?? Plus i find the folowing benifits also help:-

My R32 cost me less than most pay for their GTi's.
I get a brand new car every 2 years.
I dont put down any deposit. (no money tied up in my car)
I dont have to worry about residuals. (MK VI or no MK VI)
I give the car back to VW regardless of how hard/softly its been driven.
I dont pay road tax.
I dont pay for any roadside cover as i get it from VW.
Probably wont even need a new set of tires over the 2 years.

Its simple hassle free motoring, without having to worry about any unexpected maintenance costs... and the most important thing is that I kow exactly how much my 2yrs of motoring in my R32 is going to cost me. I would have to be mad to buy a car!! unless a) I was planning on modding b)I was going to keep it for a long time c) I do galactic miles (which I dont).
 
Its a no brainer :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: R32UK on 10 April 2008, 16:08
Have you gone down a similar route Chrissy??
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Russ.C on 10 April 2008, 17:20
2300 a well maybe Vw will send me a wee number now to comemorate it lol, really couldn't give a sh@t how many they make its a better package all round than the gti, hence why i never bought one when they first came out.I knew the ed30 was worth waiting for as the orig mk5gti didn't live up to my expectations.
If you now your VW's you can spot an ED30 over a gti a mile away(well i can)But Phil's correct you will always come of 2nd best to a dealer as at the end of the day less for you = more for them, its there job they need to earn wether its by hook or by crook so i dont really get offended but I always sell privately as i always get more.
As for the Pirrelli i would buy it over the gti, but yellow stitching hmmm.

I know where your coming from, I really wanted a GTI when I had my MK4 R32, but couldn't get on with the overall looks as it just didn't look finished, with all that black plastic! So the Edition 30 was exactly what I was wishing the GTI was - looks so much nicer when sat next to a standard GTI, and as k4ith says, I can also tell them apart a mile off! (It was the looks that did it for me, the extra power under the bonnet was a bonus!)  By the way not wanting to get involved in another GTI V ED30 thing, just agreeing with what k4ith said! Both top class motors!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Manu_R32 on 10 April 2008, 19:14
Interesting thread here with some interesting opinions. Me personally...maybe i shouldnt say this but i do prefare the GTI rather than the R32. It seems abit more of a "mature" car, not sure if that makes sense or not and the 18" Monza's just finish it off! Unfortunatley for me, the ED30 is not available here in Gibraltar which made me sort of throw myself towards the R32. I wont complain about the R32 though as I havent had a problem with it yet. (Apart from company accountant asking why petrol bills are alot higher than before  :grin:)

Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: k4ith on 11 April 2008, 07:17
2300 a well maybe Vw will send me a wee number now to comemorate it lol, really couldn't give a sh@t how many they make its a better package all round than the gti, hence why i never bought one when they first came out.I knew the ed30 was worth waiting for as the orig mk5gti didn't live up to my expectations.
If you now your VW's you can spot an ED30 over a gti a mile away(well i can)But Phil's correct you will always come of 2nd best to a dealer as at the end of the day less for you = more for them, its there job they need to earn wether its by hook or by crook so i dont really get offended but I always sell privately as i always get more.
As for the Pirrelli i would buy it over the gti, but yellow stitching hmmm.

I know where your coming from, I really wanted a GTI when I had my MK4 R32, but couldn't get on with the overall looks as it just didn't look finished, with all that black plastic! So the Edition 30 was exactly what I was wishing the GTI was - looks so much nicer when sat next to a standard GTI, and as k4ith says, I can also tell them apart a mile off! (It was the looks that did it for me, the extra power under the bonnet was a bonus!)  By the way not wanting to get involved in another GTI V ED30 thing, just agreeing with what k4ith said! Both top class motors!  :smiley:

Thats it Russ, bang on.I dont dislike the gti far from it.but when it was 1st realeased the interior plastics were a bit naff until the upgrade a year later.
the black trim outside i dont like either.just wee niggles but enough to stop me buying one at the time.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: chrissyr32 on 11 April 2008, 17:05
Have you gone down a similar route Chrissy??
Well kind of i put a decent amount of cash and the rest is on HP! I,ve never fully owned a car always had a decent chunk of it on tick.I try to buy cars that have good residuals( gti  r32  m3 etc) so i have never ever owed more than any of my cars are worth,so a trade in time i always have "positive equity" if that makes sense.I put that down on my next purchase get h.p and off i go again!
At the end of the day if you want the nice things in life,and i,m guessing we all do, you have to pay for them.

My favorite saying is" YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE" go for it your a long time dead and you cant take your cash with you, spend it and enjoy on what ever floats your boat and in my case thats "CARS" :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 11 April 2008, 19:33
Thats the attitude chrissy, like it :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: illyun on 11 April 2008, 21:34
Surely what VW have done is illegal? I'm not a lawyer but you can't just go around claiming that your product is limited when it isn't... The main reason I bought my Ed30 was the (relative) exclusitivity of it.  Otherwise I'd have kept my R32.  I am fuming at the moment and the least that will come out of this is that I will never buy a new VW again even though I am a huge fan.   
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: k4ith on 11 April 2008, 22:30
Illyun i think you have bought enough lol, is this not your 2nd ed30?
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: RedRobin on 11 April 2008, 23:00
Surely what VW have done is illegal? I'm not a lawyer but you can't just go around claiming that your product is limited when it isn't... The main reason I bought my Ed30 was the (relative) exclusitivity of it.  Otherwise I'd have kept my R32.  I am fuming at the moment and the least that will come out of this is that I will never buy a new VW again even though I am a huge fan.   

....I don't think that VW ever formally claimed the Edition 30 was a limited edition, but just an edition to celebrate 30 years.

If you are "a huge fan" of VW, why cut off your nose to spite your face by never buying another VW? :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 11 April 2008, 23:03
They did, in the brochure it stated a limited run of 1500, thats enough
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: RedRobin on 11 April 2008, 23:18
They did, in the brochure it stated a limited run of 1500, thats enough

....In the extremely unlikely even that this came to court I expect that the lawyers would claim it was a proof reading error and probably blame the agency which produced the brochure. Also, the judge would surely take into account what actual real harm was caused in any event and throw it out of court (quite rightly!) - You'd be wasting a court's time.

This is a petty issue imo. Why not enjoy what you've got instead of what you think you haven't got.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 12 April 2008, 00:13
VW have admitted they were wrong and ED30 production has stopped, that says it all for me.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: illyun on 12 April 2008, 09:53
VW have admitted they were wrong and ED30 production has stopped, that says it all for me.

Exactly.  I really can't see how VW can 'mistakenly' overrun on production.  Its inexcusable and they are just taking loyal customers for granted.   As for the proof reading theory, well, I didn't see VW falling over themselves to correct this mistake at the time.  The fact is that the Ed30 sold very well and VW were motivated by greed and simply ignored their own quota. 
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: illyun on 12 April 2008, 09:56
Surely what VW have done is illegal? I'm not a lawyer but you can't just go around claiming that your product is limited when it isn't... The main reason I bought my Ed30 was the (relative) exclusitivity of it.  Otherwise I'd have kept my R32.  I am fuming at the moment and the least that will come out of this is that I will never buy a new VW again even though I am a huge fan.   

....I don't think that VW ever formally claimed the Edition 30 was a limited edition, but just an edition to celebrate 30 years.

If you are "a huge fan" of VW, why cut off your nose to spite your face by never buying another VW? :sad:


Also, I said i'd never buy a new VW... I'm sorry but I'll be very sceptical about any similar claims VW make in the future.  However, I left the door open for a used VW - can't deny myself the pleasure of owning another Mk2  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: paulm007 on 12 April 2008, 14:58
Autotrader review here:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/car_page_content/42028.html

Like the wheels
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: RedRobin on 12 April 2008, 16:14
....Yep, I like the wheels too. I'm not sure about the tyre tread seats but it certainly looks better in metallic black than that yuk yellow imo.
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: vaughn on 12 April 2008, 21:38
it looks great in black  :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Cass on 12 April 2008, 23:03
it looks great in black  :cool:

Best colour of course.

Interesting thread developing here - VW exploitation and/or maximising run out sales potential before the Mk VI comes along. RR has a made a valid point about enjoying what you have but if I'd bought a Ed30 on the back of the adverising hype, I wouldn't be happy. Good marketing or just a sales pitch rip off.

Blame the Yanks - sue everyone for everything :shocked:

Hmmm................................................................. :huh:

Cass
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Manu_R32 on 13 April 2008, 12:45
Would be interesting to see who'd be the first to get one..... :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: Phil mcavity on 14 April 2008, 08:08
ive heard on the grapevine one of the moderators on this forum has put his/her name down for a pirelli!. ( its not Hurdy)
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: NewGolf on 14 April 2008, 08:21
Dont like the seats, that tread pattern would begin to bug me very quickly. Plus I'm not a fan of Pirelli tyres, Michelin are far better IMO. PS2's stick like poo to a blanket!

Couldn't VW come up with a better version than this, the ED30 made sense and from the sales you can see there is a definate market for people who want more power and individuality.

I'd have bought an ED30 but wouldn't buy a Pirelli.

Can't wait to see what the MK6 GTI is finally going to look like and what extra/new features/power it has  :smug:
Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: NewGolf on 14 April 2008, 08:37
I tell you what would be a decent GTI special edition, the same engine/output as in the S3 and 4WD. Keep the car light, as Audi have done with the new TTS, alu panels etc. Name it something like GTI 4Sport or GTI 4S. Make a limited run and number plaque them.

Title: Re: GTI Pirelli and info for Ed 30 owners'
Post by: RedRobin on 14 April 2008, 12:52
....Great idea NewGolf :smiley: - The only problem is keeping a car lightweight when it's got 4WD. Such a Golf might compete too closely with the R32 too.