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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Skidzilla on 19 March 2008, 17:26

Title: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: Skidzilla on 19 March 2008, 17:26
Hello there!
Newbie to the forum and newbie to the GTI :shocked:
Anyway picked up my very well looked after GTI today, and I must say I'm impressed.Performance is awsome :grin:
The question is- Is it worth a remapping? As I said I'm mightely impressed now, would a remap make much difference?
If so, who would you recommend in the Derbyshire area?
Any thoughts or advice greatfully received.
I would add that the car is just out of warranty.
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: R32UK on 19 March 2008, 17:31
Welcome Skidzilla!!

You have come to the right place.. if your even contemplating getting a remap, then you can have no doubt that the remap boys will happily justify you spending your cash!!

Enjoy!! :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: Manu_R32 on 19 March 2008, 17:50
Just dont consider it....just do it im sure youl be happy lol  :grin:
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: Hurdy on 19 March 2008, 18:13
My preference is APR.

Look on the link below for a few mini reviews :cool:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=76797.0

REVO, Superchips (Bluefin) and APR do switchable maps, but the APR one is the easiest to switch.
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: 182_blue on 19 March 2008, 18:31
im having the same thoughts mate
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: RedRobin on 19 March 2008, 18:52
....A Warm Welcome to this forum Skidzilla! :smiley:

I would advise doing about 5,000 miles before you remap (10,000 even better) - You need to let your engine settle in and loosen up and discover any problems if there are any. Also, you'll appreciate the difference a remap makes when you have an experience you can compare it with.

Privately the good tuners would advise the same.
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: vRStu on 21 March 2008, 18:55
The remap is probably one of the best investments you'll ever make.

Couple of other things you should consider -

The OEM DV is prone to failure so you may need to consider on of the replacement options.
A remap may introduce what's know as 'fuel cut', this is caused becuase the OEM pump cannot flow enough fuel to satisfy the demand at around 5krpm - The solution is one of the after market fuel pumps such as KMD, Autotech or APR.

IMHO you would be best to stick with one of the well know tuners tuch as REVO, Superchips, GIAC or APR.  REVO is my preferance because it is customisable via the Select Plus switch so as you change your mods or even as the weather changes you can tune your car yourself.
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: RedRobin on 22 March 2008, 01:42
Couple of other things you should consider -

The OEM DV is prone to failure so you may need to consider on of the replacement options.
A remap may introduce what's know as 'fuel cut', this is caused becuase the OEM pump cannot flow enough fuel to satisfy the demand at around 5krpm - The solution is one of the after market fuel pumps such as KMD, Autotech or APR.

....Hi Stu  :smiley: - I think we have met, though very briefly.

Jim at JKM (who you also use) advised me that a Revo Stage1 wouldn't need an aftermarket fuel pump, but it was more appropriate for Stage2 or 3 - Unless, of course, you actually experienced fuel cut hiccups.
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: vRStu on 22 March 2008, 08:04
Yes you do still get fuel cut on Stage 1 as well.  Obviously it is dependant on the settings you are running, if you are maxing everything out or not and with the Fuel Pump you can run a bit more fuel.

Even if you aren't getting fuel cut the Fuel Pump really does make a nice difference.

We ran my currently very lightly modded car recently with the pump, the results are pretty good for Stage 1 with the OEM filter etc -

(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/BRISKODA%2002%2002%2008/Graphs-No-Details/OCT2VRS.gif)
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: brian g on 22 March 2008, 10:07
hello (1st proper post)

i've had my car just over 3 weeks, i've allready had it remapped
it was allways in my budget and came from a remapped MK4 so knew what to expect
i ended up going for a ChippedUK map, had considered GIAC and CustomCode and had a Starperformance and a ChippedUk map in my MK4
on the whole i'm very impressed, should be at least 245BHP
felt the fuel cut symptom for the 1st time last night, doing about 120 in 5th (private runway of cource)
have an uprated DV to go on when the weather gets a bit better

had a switchable map in my MK4 and can honestly say i switched back about 3 times in 3.5 years and that was only to remind my self what the standard car felt like. Also my VW warranty ends in May so rude not to get it mapped :laugh:

Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: neg on 22 March 2008, 10:52
Welcome,

A remap makes such a difference, factory like power delivery but just that little more!

Local REVO dealer is SportsTech, Illkeston but like others say there are other choices too.

I am local if you want me to show you the difference  :grin:
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: 182_blue on 22 March 2008, 11:50
Welcome,

A remap makes such a difference, factory like power delivery but just that little more!

Local REVO dealer is SportsTech, Illkeston but like others say there are other choices too.

I am local if you want me to show you the difference  :grin:

where are you based ?

PS does the revo switch remove the revo ?, or just turn it off like the APR ?
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: Skidzilla on 22 March 2008, 18:46
I'm based in Belper, so Ilson not too far away :wink:
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: fletch..gti on 22 March 2008, 19:11
hi am from giltbrook.. were in ilkeston is sports tech......
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: vRStu on 22 March 2008, 20:55
hello (1st proper post)

i've had my car just over 3 weeks, i've allready had it remapped
it was allways in my budget and came from a remapped MK4 so knew what to expect
i ended up going for a ChippedUK map, had considered GIAC and CustomCode and had a Starperformance and a ChippedUk map in my MK4
on the whole i'm very impressed, should be at least 245BHP
felt the fuel cut symptom for the 1st time last night, doing about 120 in 5th (private runway of cource)
have an uprated DV to go on when the weather gets a bit better

had a switchable map in my MK4 and can honestly say i switched back about 3 times in 3.5 years and that was only to remind my self what the standard car felt like. Also my VW warranty ends in May so rude not to get it mapped :laugh:



Chipped UK (OptiCAN) TFSi map isn't one of the better ones I've seen and I think you'll be very very lucky to see 245hp on decent rollers, that said it's each to your own and if it puts a smile on your face then who cares about the rest of it.

REVO isn't removed by the switch just adjusted or switched off.
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: 182_blue on 22 March 2008, 21:01
I'm based in Belper, so Ilson not too far away :wink:

yeh, im in hucknall, not far from either places
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: 182_blue on 22 March 2008, 21:02
hello (1st proper post)




Chipped UK (OptiCAN) TFSi map isn't one of the better ones I've seen and I think you'll be very very lucky to see 245hp on decent rollers, that said it's each to your own and if it puts a smile on your face then who cares about the rest of it.

REVO isn't removed by the switch just adjusted or switched off.

cheers mate, so may as well get the APR then
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: neg on 23 March 2008, 13:57
I'm based in Belper, so Ilson not too far away :wink:

I am around Derby

Sports Tech - http://www.sportstechltd.co.uk/  There's a map and directions link.

As Stu said, it switches back to a standard based map.
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: brian g on 23 March 2008, 20:22
hello (1st proper post)




Chipped UK (OptiCAN) TFSi map isn't one of the better ones I've seen and I think you'll be very very lucky to see 245hp on decent rollers, that said it's each to your own and if it puts a smile on your face then who cares about the rest of it.

REVO isn't removed by the switch just adjusted or switched off.

cheers mate, so may as well get the APR then

I am now interested in how the ChippedUk map isn't rated by you, what did one make on a RR if you can remember?
not that i'm sticking up for them regardlessly, i had a bit of a mixed experience this time with ChippedUK
i wasn't happy with the 1st map that was loaded, took it back the following week and i am now happy with the 2nd map that was done. I suppose that it's possible that there are plenty of people that would have been happy or just put up with their 1st map

also most MK5s from what i have heard and seen for myself are up on the  VW quoted 200bhp so 245bhp shouldn,t be difficult to reach in my mind and would be surprised (going by my arse dyno :wink:) if it's less than 245bhp
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: vRStu on 23 March 2008, 20:34
Here you go -

(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/BRISKODA%2021%2007%2007/Briskoda%20Plots%2021%20July%202007/HV56.gif)

Same car but a more recent run where the car now has the AutoTech Pump fitted and CUK Stage II software but it doesn't tell all of the story as the AFR was all over the place.   The owner has since had it removed and has had REVO installed -

(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/BRISKODA%2002%2002%2008/Graphs-No-Details/OCT25VRS.gif)

Forge I-Pro -

(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/BRISKODA%2002%2002%2008/Graphs-No-Details/OCT2AYO.gif)


Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: neg on 04 April 2008, 01:13
182_blue,

You have it 'done' yet?  Take a trip to Awesome on Sat if you want APR and get it done then  :wink:
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: 182_blue on 04 April 2008, 08:37
i actually did get it done but for the moment opted for bluefin
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: telboy on 04 April 2008, 20:08
i actually did get it done but for the moment opted for bluefin
You say for the moment??? are you having doubts 182?
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: 182_blue on 04 April 2008, 20:12
i actually did get it done but for the moment opted for bluefin
You say for the moment??? are you having doubts 182?

no, doubts at all, sorry, i just meant with the standard car (as it is at the moment)  the Bluefin was the best option for me  :cool:
Title: Re: To Remap or not remap. That is the question!
Post by: telboy on 04 April 2008, 20:16
i actually did get it done but for the moment opted for bluefin
You say for the moment??? are you having doubts 182?

no, doubts at all, sorry, i just meant with the standard car (as it is at the moment)  the Bluefin was the best option for me  :cool:
no worries :wink: