GolfGTIforum.co.uk
Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: RedRobin on 07 February 2008, 14:53
-
The rear valance is all black plastic on the stock GTI (not Ed30) and I can now confirm that the GTI's spoiler+exhaust trim is one piece.
According to what colour your GTI is, many owners don't like all that Ford Ka-style black plastic and have painted the upper part - Called the "spoiler" by VW. The lower part is correctly called the "tail pipe trim" and everyone leaves it black. To paint the upper part most people sand it down and use a plasticiser with the paint to give some flex.
If you want to fit an aftermarket exhaust trim OSIR offer a carbonfibre one which is stuck with appropriate adhesive. My CF front mask is stuck on and it stays on!! OSIR's sole European distributor is the TTshop 01234 853 225 (Justin/Dave). Justin is now particularly clued up on various Mk5 bum treatments :grin:.
I haven't asked him yet if the OSIR exhaust trim will fit onto a one-piece Ed30 rear.
I hope this helps those who have been asking in a couple of other threads.
:smiley:
-
cheers robin, so we were all wrong thinking its detachable :rolleyes: :laugh: looks like il be making a trip to the bodyshop now :lipsrsealed:
-
is the r32 exhaust trim detachable?will the std gti carbon fiber exhaust trim fit in the r32 slot? :huh:
-
"so we were all wrong thinking its detachable"
Except me :grin:
-
is the r32 exhaust trim detachable?will the std gti carbon fiber exhaust trim fit in the r32 slot? :huh:
....Yes, the R32 exhaust trim is detachable and OSIR currently offer these 2 replacement CF parts:
(http://homepage.mac.com/risowu/OSIR/images/DTM-R3201s.jpg) (http://homepage.mac.com/risowu/OSIR/images/DTM-R32X401s.jpg)
My understanding from talking to Justin at the TTshop is that Riso (Mr OSIR) can custom make.
Also, you can buy just the VW R32 spoiler without the VW R32 exhaust trim if you want - I have one on order.
-
The ed30 lower spoiler part of the rear bumper is the same shape as the GTI. The only bit different is the tailpipe surround which deatches. Local pub's landlord has a GTI and gratefully let me look at mine and his together. This is good news as it means that the DTM CF piece I have ordered should fit straight on :cool:
-
Hurdy, I was discussing your car with Justin today and we both think that silver CF with silver paint is going to look stunning and also very subtle.
Justin thinks it will look good if all the top bonnet is exposed as CF but I think it will look better with just the centre section - Like this pic but wrong colour shown:
(http://homepage.mac.com/risowu/OSIR/images/GTI-BLK806.jpg)
:cool:
-
Cheers RR.
That CF bonnet would look the nuts on your car with the red CF centre and the outers painted red too. :drool:
I wonder how much they would charge for spraying mine?
-
Cheers RR.
That CF bonnet would look the nuts on your car with the red CF centre and the outers painted red too. :drool:
I wonder how much they would charge for spraying mine?
....I did consider it but decided the red CF looks too 'brown' and also the red CF wouldn't look quite right with my black CF mask anf VW badge.
You do know that my vented bonnet is painted CF don't you?
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/ventbonnet.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/CFbonnet_open.jpg)
-
My understanding from talking to Justin at the TTshop is that Riso (Mr OSIR) can custom make.
So OSIR will custom make a valance that fits onto an R32 spoiler to suit a standard GTI exhaust config?
As standard (not custom made), the GTI CF valance WONT fit onto the R32 spoiler?
-
My understanding from talking to Justin at the TTshop is that Riso (Mr OSIR) can custom make.
So OSIR will custom make a valance that fits onto an R32 spoiler to suit a standard GTI exhaust config?
As standard (not custom made), the GTI CF valance WONT fit onto the R32 spoiler?
....It's best you ask Justin at the TTshop 01234 853 225.
-
Here are some better pics to help understand the various rear valance parts. The stock R32 spoiler is clearly able to accommodate a bigger variety of exhaust trims than the other VW Mk5 spoilers.
(http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20652&stc=1&d=1201869260)
(http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20651&stc=1&d=1201869260)
(http://alexgomez.com/r32.JPG)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/robintegra/DSC04366.jpg)
And a pic to showing how well the R32 spoiler looks with the colour coded sides on a GTI/R32: - Note the LED tail lights :cool:
(http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20954&stc=1&d=1202375365)
-
Cheers RR.
That CF bonnet would look the nuts on your car with the red CF centre and the outers painted red too. :drool:
I wonder how much they would charge for spraying mine?
....I did consider it but decided the red CF looks too 'brown' and also the red CF wouldn't look quite right with my black CF mask anf VW badge.
You do know that my vented bonnet is painted CF don't you?
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/ventbonnet.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/CFbonnet_open.jpg)
Yes, I think it looks great too. :drool:
I went with the bonnet without the vent, don't know why, it just appealed to my sense of symmetry or something :laugh:
Still thinking that I may get some more bits too :undecided:
-
When I spoke to Justin yesterday he seemed to think that the R32 spoiler wouldn't fit the GTI CF valance. Judging by the grey picture it seems that there is a way of doing it - and it looks great!
I'm just wondering how it works - as I don't want to go forking out for parts that are no use to me... and messing about the bodyshop / insurance claim.
-
Robin,
Is it possible to get the R32 valance so that the exhaust holes are in the position that they are on the GTI (on the left hand side) rather than in the centres?????
The R32 rear on that grey GTI looks stunning!
Is it also a straight swap with the GTI and R32 valances or is some modification needed???
-
Robin,
Is it possible to get the R32 valance so that the exhaust holes are in the position that they are on the GTI (on the left hand side) rather than in the centres?????
The R32 rear on that grey GTI looks stunning!
Is it also a straight swap with the GTI and R32 valances or is some modification needed???
....maxamus - Look carefully at the pic I posted and you can see that your question is answered - Can you see the standard twin exhausts on this R32 spoiler'd GTI?
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/robintegra/DSC04366.jpg)
And also, no modification is needed as far as I know. Mine will get fitted late Feb / early March when OSIR next deliver to the TTshop.
-
ahhh my bad Robin :embarassed:
Let me know how your install goes and maybe i'll be tempted.
-
So a good choice for the standard twin setup is R32 spoiler and Ed30 exhaust trim - like the grey GTi on foreign plates.
-
So a good choice for the standard twin setup is R32 spoiler and Ed30 exhaust trim - like the grey GTi on foreign plates.
ye thats what im leaning towards.....it kind of preserves the original look of the GTI
-
ok ok so the r32 rear spoiler fits on the std gti.....confirmed
so can you get a carbon fiber insert for the r32 spoiler with only the one side cut out for exhausts, instead of both sides? :huh:
also do the red reflectors come on all r32 rear bumber spoilers because i think this looks abit gash!!
-
Everyone seems to be missing the point here...
An R32 bumper is made up of 3 parts... 1. The Bumper 2. The Spoiler 3. The Tail Pipe Trim
However...
An Edition 30 bumper is ONLY made of 2 parts 1. The Bumper 2. The Spoiler. There is no Tail Pipe Trim as it is built onto The Spoiler.
Recent confirmation also states that the normal GTI bumper is also 2 parts... again there is no Tail Pipe Trim.
So it is NOT possible to put an R32 rear spoiler on your GTI / R32 and use your original Tail Pipe Trim - as you wont have one!!
So far after a conversation with Justin at the TTshop he believes that the OSIR Carbon Tail Pipe Trim (or valance) for the GTI (part no. DTM GT1 Carbon) WILL NOT fit an R32 rear spoiler as it doesnt have clips to fit it. If you look at the R32 assembly Robin posted above you can see the standard R32 Tail Pipe Trim has clips to hold it in place. The DTM GT1 Carbon part does not have these clips to put it on an R32 bumper and is designed as a GLUE ON part to sit ontop of your current GTI spoiler.
The only way to get an R32 bumper and a suitable tail pipe trim is either to find a custom make one somewhere - or to fit a new exhaust configuration.
Robin is ok as he has a 4 exhaust configuration so he can fit an R32 Carbin Tail Pipe Trim onto his R32 spoiler as they design one for quad exhausts.
Unfortunately there is not a standard GTI exhaust configured R32 tail pipe trim.
-
right i get you, so the best thing to do would be to get the std bumper on the std gti colour coded and get the cf exhaust trim glued on??
i know that this glue stuff is really good and holds the panel on very well as ive used it on previouse impreza. :smiley:
-
right i get you, so the best thing to do would be to get the std bumper on the std gti colour coded and get the cf exhaust trim glued on??
I think so!
I'd like to see the difference between a standard GTI spoiler and an Edition 30 spoiler.
Is it just the little trim around the exhaust thats different, or is it the whole shape?
I'm just wondering if the DTM GTI1 carbon trim would fit ontop of the ED30 one?
-
right i get you, so the best thing to do would be to get the std bumper on the std gti colour coded and get the cf exhaust trim glued on??
I think so!
I'd like to see the difference between a standard GTI spoiler and an Edition 30 spoiler.
Is it just the little trim around the exhaust thats different, or is it the whole shape?
I'm just wondering if the DTM GTI1 carbon trim would fit ontop of the ED30 one?
....I'm pretty sure that is what Hurdy is going to do - Glue a silver carbonfibre OSIR DTM_GT1 exhaust trim onto his Ed30 one-piece spoiler.
Joe - This pic shows a glued on DTM_GT1 trim on a colour coded GTI spoiler:
(http://homepage.mac.com/risowu/OSIR/images/DTMGT1C801.jpg)
p3eps - Thanks for the detailed explanation! :cool:
-
ok ok so the r32 rear spoiler fits on the std gti.....confirmed
also do the red reflectors come on all r32 rear bumber spoilers because i think this looks abit gash!!
....I think that only the earlier build R32's had no reflectors but they are needed for the American market and are now standard build version in Europe/UK.
I prefer without but will accept them for the sake of the whole new rear treatment. :smiley:
-
^^^that looks mint and is how mine will look at the back when finished. :drool:
-
The pic above looks cool... but I thought the main point of CF parts was to reduce weight?
How does the 'glue' work? If I was to glue this onto the bottom of my existing spoiler, how easy is it to remove when I sell the car? Would it tear off all the paint etc?!
I wonder if there are any other aftermarket 'tail pipe covers' which would fit a standard GTI exhaust system, but clip into an R32 spoiler?
I like the subtlety of the CF one though!
-
The pic above looks cool... but I thought the main point of CF parts was to reduce weight?
How does the 'glue' work? If I was to glue this onto the bottom of my existing spoiler, how easy is it to remove when I sell the car? Would it tear off all the paint etc?!
I wonder if there are any other aftermarket 'tail pipe covers' which would fit a standard GTI exhaust system, but clip into an R32 spoiler?
I like the subtlety of the CF one though!
....The main and original purpose of carbonfibre most certainly is to reduce weight but to give strength at the same time. There are various grades of CF, each for different purposes. However, carbonfibre has also become popular as eye-candy. Personally, my CF bits are for cosmetic reasons (or vanity/cool-factor :cool:) but I am of course pleased for any added benefits of weight saving such as my bonnet.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_CFdetail_front.jpg)
-
I'm upset again :cry:
I still wasn't convinced that the lower half of the ED30 was the same as the Standard GTI one and so took the car back up to "The pub landlord" again, this time in bright sunshine. Immediately we both noticed that the bottom of the ED30 lower section has an extended lip which was noticeable due to the sunshine catching on it today. I would think that this rules out using the ED30 with the CF OSIR DTM part as it would not sit flush to be glued to. :sad:
I don't want to get a standard GTI rear, just so I can colour code and glue a bit to it and now it looks like the R32 section wouldn't accept the OSIR part either!!!
Any suggestions?
-
I did wonder that myself when you were talking about it as I thought that section of the Ed30 was different (not being smooth like the original)
-
I don't want to get a standard GTI rear, just so I can colour code and glue a bit to it and now it looks like the R32 section wouldn't accept the OSIR part either!!!
You're kind of in the same boat as me. I was pretty sure the standard GTI & ED30 rear had more differences than being painted and the wee exhaust lip - hence why I was wanting a pic of both side by side.
It looks like you've already confirmed this though!
I need a new 'spoiler' anyway as mine has a hole in it, but I don't really want to put a standard GTI one on just to stick the CF trim ontop. The R32 bumper would definately look much better with this on - but surely there must be another way apart from nodding my exhausts?
Does anyone make an aftermarket R32 tail pipe trim with a single twin exhaust exit?
-
I don't want to get a standard GTI rear, just so I can colour code and glue a bit to it and now it looks like the R32 section wouldn't accept the OSIR part either!!!
You're kind of in the same boat as me. I was pretty sure the standard GTI & ED30 rear had more differences than being painted and the wee exhaust lip - hence why I was wanting a pic of both side by side.
It looks like you've already confirmed this though!
I need a new 'spoiler' anyway as mine has a hole in it, but I don't really want to put a standard GTI one on just to stick the CF trim ontop. The R32 bumper would definately look much better with this on - but surely there must be another way apart from nodding my exhausts?
Does anyone make an aftermarket R32 tail pipe trim with a single twin exhaust exit?
....I don't know of anyone. From what I've seen of OSIR's products, Riso may still bring out a twin pipe version. I think it's worth everyone who wants one, telling Justin at the TTshop because he talks to Riso fairly regularly. Riso might be planning it anyway because there obviously a bigger market for standard twin pipe owners.
-
Im still wondering how the guy with the grey GTI in the pic above managed to get an ED30 lookalike valance on the R32 spoiler?
-
Im still wondering how the guy with the grey GTI in the pic above managed to get an ED30 lookalike valance on the R32 spoiler?
New ED30 1 piece "spoiler" from VW half painted as apposed to an R32 "spoiler" with a single exhaust trim?