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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: gti jimmy on 09 January 2008, 20:47
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hi, Had a bit of a play on sunday with a Mk4 R32. To be honest he really did'nt seem to have the edge over me or was he simply not trying?!?!?! I almost thought with a bit more bottle I could have passed him at one point. Anyone shed any light on this, was he trying or not!!
Cheers
Jim
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I had a "play" with a MKIV R32 last year before I had my ED30 remapped. I noticed it as it started to pull level with me on a dual carriageway and then he waved to me as he "thought" he was going to fly past. He put his foot down and so I did too. Let's just say I waved back at him as he disappeared in my rear view mirror :grin:
Now Ive had the remap - it would be like comparing a 2 litre naturally aspirated golf against the 2 litre turbo'd GTI :smug:
From what I've seen of standard MKIV R32 golfs rolling road results they actually struggle to put out their standard 237bhp. :cry: plus they are still heavier than the MKV GTI at 1477kg
MKIV R32 power to weight is around 163bhp/ton
MKV R32 power to weight is around 166bhp/ton
MKV GTI power to weight is around 151bhp/ton
MKV ED30 power to weight is around 173bhp/ton
I say "around" because the figures are based on standard outputs and not the outputs that we generally find when doing rolling roads on these cars. :nerd:
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My experience was similar in that my performance expectations of the R32 were a little on the high side and when I test drove one it was a dissapointment and didn't feel that much faster than my Clio 172.
Independent figures put the MK4 R32 at 15.6 secs to 100mph with the MK5 0.1secs faster.
In gear figures for the Ed 30 vs R32 (MK4 or 5) are weighed heavily in the Ed 30's favour, this is despite the R32 being lower geared.
Subjectively a force fed engine will always feel quicker than a normally aspirated one of similar power and weight due to the hammerblow delivery but when it comes to an Edition 30 vs any R32 then the ED 30's simply are faster, both figuratively and subjectively.
Hurdy mentioned power to weight figures based on manufacturers figures, the reality is that an R32 (MK5) puts out a real 153bhp/ton whereas the Edition 30 manages over 180bhp/ton.
What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
YOU WOULD HAVE TO MENTION THE RECARO'S :cry:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
YOU WOULD HAVE TO MENTION THE RECARO'S :cry:
whats the crack with thease recaro's? what do they look like? any pics? ive seen them in the old r32 when i went on a test drive in one......are they just the same?
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MKV recaro's are totally, utterly, absolutely, unbelievably gorgeous :drool:
Only a gnats tadger down in loveliness from the RS4 recaro's :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Here....
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l304/clio_gib/Recaros1.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l304/clio_gib/Recaros2.jpg)
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waaaoooooowww they are nice, they do look like the rs4 seats :drool: :drool: how much are they as an extra, just wondering as my dad has spec'd the sport seats in his new porsche turbo and that was like £3,000 extra :sick:
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Not sure...think they cost me about £1,900?? Not to sure can let you knwo for sure abit later on :smiley:
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Think they are nearer £2,300 IIRC from when I was thinking of getting another R32.
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Not sure...think they cost me about £1,900?? Not to sure can let you knwo for sure abit later on :smiley:
I think you wanted to say they cost YOUR DAD 1900 quid :wink:
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Not sure...think they cost me about £1,900?? Not to sure can let you knwo for sure abit later on :smiley:
I think you wanted to say they cost YOUR DAD 1900 quid :wink:
Possibly abit more aswell :smiley:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
And the fact it looks like a cheap reps jetta from the front! :tongue: :rolleyes: :wink:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
And the fact it looks like a cheap reps jetta from the front! :tongue: :rolleyes: :wink:
Fortunately for you... the only thing you will be seeing is the back :grin:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
And the fact it looks like a cheap reps jetta from the front! :tongue: :rolleyes: :wink:
Fortunately for you... the only thing you will be seeing is the back :grin:
Only females are that disillusioned! :rolleyes:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
And the fact it looks like a cheap reps jetta from the front! :tongue: :rolleyes: :wink:
Fortunately for you... the only thing you will be seeing is the back :grin:
Only females are that disillusioned! :rolleyes:
Dont mind looking at the back of them either!! :nerd:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
And the fact it looks like a cheap reps jetta from the front! :tongue: :rolleyes: :wink:
Fortunately for you... the only thing you will be seeing is the back :grin:
Only females are that disillusioned! :rolleyes:
Dont mind looking at the back of them either!! :nerd:
Nor me, especially when I am lining up to stick it to them :wink: (R32's of course)
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I must add i do prefare the back of the R32 over any other golf aswell :embarassed:
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
And the fact it looks like a cheap reps jetta from the front! :tongue: :rolleyes: :wink:
Fortunately for you... the only thing you will be seeing is the back :grin:
Only females are that disillusioned! :rolleyes:
Dont mind looking at the back of them either!! :nerd:
Nor me, especially when I am lining up to stick it to them :wink: (R32's of course)
If you dont mide getting your end covered in the brown stuff.. give it a go! :evil:
Ha ha i just realised that you actually have a Seat... be careful bits dont fall off it when you give it some :-)
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What the GTI or ED 30 can't match is the R32's cultured delivery or exquisite exhaust note.
Unfortunately, that is not all it can't match. It can't match R32 uphill, in wet conditions, on bad roads....
... I am guesssing this also includes the bends :grin:
And the Recaros :grin:
And the fact it looks like a cheap reps jetta from the front! :tongue: :rolleyes: :wink:
Fortunately for you... the only thing you will be seeing is the back :grin:
Only females are that disillusioned! :rolleyes:
Dont mind looking at the back of them either!! :nerd:
Nor me, especially when I am lining up to stick it to them :wink: (R32's of course)
If you dont mide getting your end covered in the brown stuff.. give it a go! :evil:
Ha ha i just realised that you actually have a Seat... be careful bits dont fall off it when you give it some :-)
Heh heh. First gear, I would grant to an R32. After that, game on ;)
With regard to bits falling off, think that is more likely to be the case in the R32, the first part being the drivers dummy which would be spat out when the front drive BWJ Turbo powers on past the big heavy lazy greedy V6 :grin:
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If we are not careful we will have them Skoda boys hijacking our site next!! :grin:
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If we are not careful we will have them Skoda boys hijacking our site next!! :grin:
They come with max 200bhp or mid 200's souped, so unless they are strapping on bigger Turbo's, even an R32 would have a chance against one :grin:
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Can I add some much needed seriousness to the discussion as I've been away for a while......
My car is the fastest on the road........................... :evil: :evil: :evil:
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If we are not careful we will have them Skoda boys hijacking our site next!! :grin:
They come with max 200bhp or mid 200's souped, so unless they are strapping on bigger Turbo's, even an R32 would have a chance against one :grin:
Isnt it a shame all races dont take place on a drag strip! You Gti/Seat boyz would actually get some wins under your belts :lipsrsealed:
On the twistes I am afraid I dont think there are many that can touch the R32.. The level of grip R32 develops is remarkable... and with a hot talented driver like me at the wheel... well you sooooooooped up car lot would struggle to make your extra 0.5sec 0-60 times show. Speed of the puma activated!! :grin:
as for the Seat.... well I got to say I am really liking your brake disks :grin: :grin:
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Can I add some much needed seriousness to the discussion as I've been away for a while......
My car is the fastest on the road........................... :evil: :evil: :evil:
ONLY when its wet :wink:
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R32 Brakes lol....nice spot R32 UK
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Lol! One of the lads at work just got an new R32, and it does sound sublime. Not had the oppochancity to have some banter with him on the twisties, but reckon on a dry day, the likes of the Ed30/Cupra would have a god chance of passing/staying ahead of the R32 :laugh:. On a wet day, the Ed30/Cupra need not bother trying.
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I'd still have a go, whether it was wet or dry - even if it was just to confirm that I can't keep up in the wet :laugh:
Anyway I've got a CG-Lock now and the guy who sold it me said it was like handing me another 50bhp :grin:
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I'd still have a go, whether it was wet or dry - even if it was just to confirm that I can't keep up in the wet :laugh:
Anyway I've got a CG-Lock now and the guy who sold it me said it was like handing me another 50bhp :grin:
what is CG-Lock? what does it do?
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I'd still have a go, whether it was wet or dry - even if it was just to confirm that I can't keep up in the wet :laugh:
Anyway I've got a CG-Lock now and the guy who sold it me said it was like handing me another 50bhp :grin:
what is CG-Lock? what does it do?
It basically is an add on to your seatbelt which allows you to lock the bottom lap section of the seatbelt to keep your butt where it is supposed to be. It gives the driver the ability to focus on the road without having to constantly re-adjust his arse and belt. See the link below.
http://www.cg-lock.co.uk/
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Lol! One of the lads at work just got an new R32, and it does sound sublime. Not had the oppochancity to have some banter with him on the twisties, but reckon on a dry day, the likes of the Ed30/Cupra would have a god chance of passing/staying ahead of the R32 :laugh:. On a wet day, the Ed30/Cupra need not bother trying.
Just beware that they take quite a while to open up... the last time i drove mine which was about 5wks ago was considerably faster than when i bought it. Looking forward to it hitting the 10k and beyond!!!
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....A few of my friends have got Mk4 R32's and I was in one at the weekend. They're all heavily modified. That V6 on Millteks is a sound to die for!! Better than the Mk5 .:R sound. I was in one on Sunday and the interior is far more luxurious than any Mk5. The drive feel is much 'looser' and the power isn't felt in the same way as my modded Mk5 GTI. One of these Mk4 .:R friends is blue light and military qualified and about to be an instructor - It's about the driver as much as the car in my opinion.
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....A few of my friends have got Mk4 R32's and I was in one at the weekend. They're all heavily modified. That V6 on Millteks is a sound to die for!! Better than the Mk5 .:R sound. I was in one on Sunday and the interior is far more luxurious than any Mk5. The drive feel is much 'looser' and the power isn't felt in the same way as my modded Mk5 GTI. One of these Mk4 .:R friends is blue light and military qualified and about to be an instructor - It's about the driver as much as the car in my opinion.
"cough" "cough".... Funny guy! i guess its down to opinion but i think that the MKV's sound alot better than the MKiV's. I had mine and a mates next to each other.. and everyone there decided that it did. Im not sure about the Miltek conversion because neither of them did.
As for the interior being more luxurious than the other one... i dont think so!! Had them both so i think my opinion is fairly valid. The ride on the old R32 is also not up to the standard of the MKV. Its simply miles ahead of the competition with this..
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....A few of my friends have got Mk4 R32's and I was in one at the weekend. They're all heavily modified. That V6 on Millteks is a sound to die for!! Better than the Mk5 .:R sound. I was in one on Sunday and the interior is far more luxurious than any Mk5. The drive feel is much 'looser' and the power isn't felt in the same way as my modded Mk5 GTI. One of these Mk4 .:R friends is blue light and military qualified and about to be an instructor - It's about the driver as much as the car in my opinion.
"cough" "cough".... Funny guy! i guess its down to opinion but i think that the MKV's sound alot better than the MKiV's. I had mine and a mates next to each other.. and everyone there decided that it did. Im not sure about the Miltek conversion because neither of them did.
As for the interior being more luxurious than the other one... i dont think so!! Had them both so i think my opinion is fairly valid. The ride on the old R32 is also not up to the standard of the MKV. Its simply miles ahead of the competition with this..
what would be competition group for R32?
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....A few of my friends have got Mk4 R32's and I was in one at the weekend. They're all heavily modified. That V6 on Millteks is a sound to die for!! Better than the Mk5 .:R sound. I was in one on Sunday and the interior is far more luxurious than any Mk5. The drive feel is much 'looser' and the power isn't felt in the same way as my modded Mk5 GTI. One of these Mk4 .:R friends is blue light and military qualified and about to be an instructor - It's about the driver as much as the car in my opinion.
"cough" "cough".... Funny guy! i guess its down to opinion but i think that the MKV's sound alot better than the MKiV's. I had mine and a mates next to each other.. and everyone there decided that it did. Im not sure about the Miltek conversion because neither of them did.
As for the interior being more luxurious than the other one... i dont think so!! Had them both so i think my opinion is fairly valid. The ride on the old R32 is also not up to the standard of the MKV. Its simply miles ahead of the competition with this..
what would be competition group for R32?
THe hot hatch group i guess... i dont know... pick one out of the hat!! The ride of the R32 is simply so much more planted and less harsh than any of the other I test drove.
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....A few of my friends have got Mk4 R32's and I was in one at the weekend. They're all heavily modified. That V6 on Millteks is a sound to die for!! Better than the Mk5 .:R sound. I was in one on Sunday and the interior is far more luxurious than any Mk5. The drive feel is much 'looser' and the power isn't felt in the same way as my modded Mk5 GTI. One of these Mk4 .:R friends is blue light and military qualified and about to be an instructor - It's about the driver as much as the car in my opinion.
"cough" "cough".... Funny guy! i guess its down to opinion but i think that the MKV's sound alot better than the MKiV's. I had mine and a mates next to each other.. and everyone there decided that it did. Im not sure about the Miltek conversion because neither of them did.
As for the interior being more luxurious than the other one... i dont think so!! Had them both so i think my opinion is fairly valid. The ride on the old R32 is also not up to the standard of the MKV. Its simply miles ahead of the competition with this..
what would be competition group for R32?
THe hot hatch group i guess... i dont know... pick one out of the hat!! The ride of the R32 is simply so much more planted and less harsh than any of the other I test drove.
:cool:
(I want TTS)
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....A few of my friends have got Mk4 R32's and I was in one at the weekend. They're all heavily modified. That V6 on Millteks is a sound to die for!! Better than the Mk5 .:R sound. I was in one on Sunday and the interior is far more luxurious than any Mk5. The drive feel is much 'looser' and the power isn't felt in the same way as my modded Mk5 GTI. One of these Mk4 .:R friends is blue light and military qualified and about to be an instructor - It's about the driver as much as the car in my opinion.
"cough" "cough".... Funny guy! i guess its down to opinion but i think that the MKV's sound alot better than the MKiV's. I had mine and a mates next to each other.. and everyone there decided that it did. Im not sure about the Miltek conversion because neither of them did.
As for the interior being more luxurious than the other one... i dont think so!! Had them both so i think my opinion is fairly valid. The ride on the old R32 is also not up to the standard of the MKV. Its simply miles ahead of the competition with this..
what would be competition group for R32?
THe hot hatch group i guess... i dont know... pick one out of the hat!! The ride of the R32 is simply so much more planted and less harsh than any of the other I test drove.
:cool:
(I want TTS)
Peski...you should put it in your signature that you want a TTS....i think iv read that over 100 times since it was announced :laugh:
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Speaking of in the wet.............
I was driving along about 3 weeks ago, torrential downpour and going about 70mph around a bend and caught a MASSIVE puddle..........
The car pulled slightly to the left towards the kerb and a slight movement with the wheel to the right straightened it up. If I was in a non 4WD I think I would have been injured. It was a bit silly on my part but I was having a bit of fun and underestimated the depth of puddles..........
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
The passenger almost :sick: :sick: but by the time I dropped him home, he was smiling.........that's the R32................
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Speaking of in the wet.............
I was driving along about 3 weeks ago, torrential downpour and going about 70mph around a bend and caught a MASSIVE puddle..........
The car pulled slightly to the left towards the kerb and a slight movement with the wheel to the right straightened it up. If I was in a non 4WD I think I would have been injured. It was a bit silly on my part but I was having a bit of fun and underestimated the depth of puddles..........
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
The passenger almost :sick: :sick: but by the time I dropped him home, he was smiling.........that's the R32................
my girlfriend, who knows jack about cars, picks out GTIs better that I do...
That's the WHITE E30 GTI....... :wink: