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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: gazbutmk5gti on 09 November 2007, 18:14
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Went and did it, had the ED30 remapped at Awesome today and that exactly what it is. It made 295bhp and 321ft/lbs of torque(torque at the wheels) on the rollers, bearing in mind the ECU needs to self learn to the map and the car has only done 1200miles I think 300bhp is on the cards.
The midrange surge and top end pull are amazing and its made quick car very very fast.
So I'm a very happy bunny and all I need is a dry day, I had the traction light come on at 70 on the motorway in the rain :evil:
Also had cruise control fitted which works as standard but can also switch the map between performance and standard modes.
Can't recommend the remap and Awesome enough.
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isnt it ment to be 307bhp?
the cruise control can switch between the map and factory??? :-|
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Stop tempting me :cry:
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Stop tempting me :cry:
I think you should do it!! Call it an early xmas present to yourself... thats usually my excuse at this time of year. I have often found that using this tactic carefully can provide fantastic results! :evil:
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No, no, I'm not listening....err...looking....la, la la la
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oh no please dont mention this anymore ... :rolleyes:
great news , please supply a bit more info on the 'feel'
I assume its the APR remap ? kinda need an excuse for the cruise control lol
any chance of putting up the plot? and did they do a before run?
Cant imagine what its like , as the std 220 feels pretty rapid already.
easily over 300 once you are past 5k miles , cars barely run in you nutter :evil:
jealous me ? course not :wink:
JohnO
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So if your getting around 300bhp and its costing around £600. Your only paying £100 per 10Bhp!!!
Put me down for 600bhp!! :grin:
Why would you not do it???
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isnt it ment to be 307bhp?
the cruise control can switch between the map and factory??? :-|
superchips quote 307bhp, not a big fan of them, heard they just up boost, used APR before with no problems, APR quote 295-305bhp with my car only having covered 1200 miles I'm pretty confident it'll do 300bhp once loosend up a bit more and the ECU has self learnt with the new map.
yes with APR software the cruise can switch between remap and factory.
sorry don't have any means of scanning the power graphs, the car made good power as std
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what's wrong? ate something bad?
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I'm jealous, I feel sick, I want an ed30, now I'm going to cry cos I can't have one :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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does anybody actually know what the differences are between an awsome remap and a bluefin? people just seem to be saying "i've heard" that the bluefin just ups the boost. i would like to go the bluefin route because it seems really easy to swap maps if you ever need to. you can also sell it on and recoup some of your hard earned if and when you sell your car. after reading a few threads, there seems to be a bit of feeling against the bluefin, although anyone who has had one seems to sing its praises. they all seem to be about the same price give or take, and they all seem to give roughly the same bhp and torque gains.the more i read the more confused your all making me :huh: can someone out there convince me which one to go for please!
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i vote bluefin, well i would :grin: get great mpg too. basicaly its the dogs back wheels.
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can someone out there convince me which one to go for please!
no one can convince you which to buy its a very personal choice based on so many weighted factors.
Bluefin indeed looks very useable (not sure you could sell it on , as new owner would still need a map that suits their car)
Personally I am only making decisions on how quick products were put to market , the amount of R&D done for a new product , the level of support, any proof , owner experiences , and for some established companies how they dealt with remaps etc for older cars.
Its only an opinion. And often we also taken into account 'trusted' opinions of some members of forum etc.
There are many happy people with bluefin cars , so if based on your own research you want to go that way then :smiley:
All ED30 maps seem to go to around 300 bhp
Given my trawls of the forums REVO , APR or Oettinger would be my current choice once I have run the car in.
I also need the cruise control , so getting that fitted + switchable maps is a huge benefit
have I helped at all ? nope prob not :laugh: but my impression of brand x may be completely different to yours
let us know what you choose.
in the end rejoice that the ED30 is a tuners dream :cool:
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what's wrong? ate something bad?
Nope. Thats just very sick gains!! For peanuts!!
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what's wrong? ate something bad?
Nope. Thats just very sick gains!! For peanuts!!
there is always cost. How about engine longevity?
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what's wrong? ate something bad?
Nope. Thats just very sick gains!! For peanuts!!
there is always cost. How about engine longevity?
True.. but how many people are likely to still have their cars for more than 5-6yrs?? In theory we all would because we are happy with them. The only thing we fail to account for is when a new one is released :evil:
"I want one!! I want one!!"
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From what I understand APR keep within the manufacturers safety limits built in the ECU, they do not remove them, particularly EGT, which is an issue with TFSI engine. I have heard that some of the other tuners have removed some of these to get the gains they have easily. This was one of the reasons I used APR and the fact I've used them before with no issues. Like other people have said its down to personal choice.
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what's wrong? ate something bad?
Nope. Thats just very sick gains!! For peanuts!!
there is always cost. How about engine longevity?
True.. but how many people are likely to still have their cars for more than 5-6yrs?? In theory we all would because we are happy with them. The only thing we fail to account for is when a new one is released :evil:
"I want one!! I want one!!"
Too true!
The longest I have had a car over the last 7 years is 18 months and the least being just 2 months. People who have a decent disposable income will always want the next best thing that comes out and I'm afraid I would have to count myself in that bracket too :embarassed:
Engine longevity in this instance has never been of prime importance to me and that is why I am tempted. I have remapped my previous four cars and this is the first one that I have thought twice about remapping. Whether it is because I just love it as it is, or whether it is the fact I might break the 2 year barrier with this car I don't know :undecided:
My wifeee has also expressed the preference that this is the best car that I have bought so far and even she loves it, so this is another reason for me not to remap it as it may eventually become the second car.
A switchable map could be the best of both worlds as I would only tend to switch the map on the occasions when I venture out of the urban sprawl and and for meets, 1/4 miles etc. This would mean that the engine and gearbox lifespan wouldn't be significantly reduced and that the wifee would be able to enjoy the car longer :cool:
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the issue of longevity isn't really a problem, you cannot use 300bhp all of the time, and the rest of the time your not really working the engine so hard as there is no need to rev it so much you just drive on the increased torque.
There are plenty of remapped 1.8T out there with a 150k on them with no major issues I don't see the 2.0T being any different as long as you look after it, warm up properly, run down, oil changes etc., which we probably all do anyway.
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the issue of longevity isn't really a problem, you cannot use 300bhp all of the time, and the rest of the time your not really working the engine so hard as there is no need to rev it so much you just drive on the increased torque.
There are plenty of remapped 1.8T out there with a 150k on them with no major issues I don't see the 2.0T being any different as long as you look after it, warm up properly, run down, oil changes etc., which we probably all do anyway.
I see your point
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the issue of longevity isn't really a problem, you cannot use 300bhp all of the time, and the rest of the time your not really working the engine so hard as there is no need to rev it so much you just drive on the increased torque.
There are plenty of remapped 1.8T out there with a 150k on them with no major issues I don't see the 2.0T being any different as long as you look after it, warm up properly, run down, oil changes etc., which we probably all do anyway.
You are specifically talking about engine longevity. I also have to factor into the equation the DSG longevity. The DSG box is known to have some longevity issues as seen from the TT's and to boost a car up to 300bhp as you say will not significantly reduce the engines lifespan, but the DSG is more susceptable to torque issues and would me more of a concern to me than the engine with a remap. The subsequent high torque levels of a remapped car in everyday driving as well as whilst using the full performance would mean that it would most likely be the DSG box that would have mechanical issues first. :nerd:
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Got me thinking how good it would be if you could get the same gains on the R32... Im sure the AWD could handle the power and as I opted for the manual, that could probably handle it too..
Your definately right about the change your car often.. once you can do it, you will do it! Hence the reason for me only leasing my cars.. no real headache when i comes to giving them back... and engine logevity certainly isnt on my list of priorities :evil:
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Well don't feel too left out... you could always supercharge yours to 450+bhp, 0-60 in about 3.5secs :evil: :evil: :evil: It would just cost you a tiny bit more thats all :evil: :rolleyes: :shocked:
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Well don't feel too left out... you could always supercharge yours to 450+bhp, 0-60 in about 3.5secs :evil: :evil: :evil: It would just cost you a tiny bit more thats all :evil: :rolleyes: :shocked:
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I know and it is tempting me.. but i fear the real cost could be my licence :cry:
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WHy worry about losing your license? You could just apply a slight amount of pressure on the accelator... And.....
By By police car :evil:
(GrantW. This post is a joke. Nothing serious)
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WHy worry about losing your license? You could just apply a slight amount of pressure on the accelator... And.....
By By police car :evil:
(GrantW. This post is a joke. Nothing serious)
Well as the R isnt really my car i dont think i would bother the HPA until I get my own...
Funny as I had a young lad come into my work place and as me the size if the cars engine. When I told him it was a 3.2... he simply said his mates vxr would pi$$ all over it and walked out...
Need I say I will be inviting his mates VXr round to mine when the HPA is installed and kicking!! :evil:
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lol.
How much to the VXR's put out?
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lol.
How much to the VXR's put out?
not entirely sure but from what i remember JC saying on top gear, the vxr8 will out do a bmw m5 0-60 and puts out about 400bhp! I doubt he has one of those so I am guessing that he has gone for a Astra or the Vectra so 6sec 0-60ish and either 240bhp or 280bhp. either way Im sure they would beat most in a straight line. Round any kind of corners then its headbutt your windscreen time!
Im quietly confident I would give him a good run for his money... I know I can get 300bhp out of mine without any major mods :rolleyes:
The point is that with that much power churning out the front 2wheels he is gonna have to fight pretty hard to keep it out of any hedges in the wet...
Bring it on!! Im confident I can have him as standard for now :grin:
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Im quietly confident I would give him a good run for his money... I know I can get 300bhp out of mine without any major mods :rolleyes:
Out of interest what would need to do to get 300bhp out of yours?
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you will defo need cams and a full exhaust system and cats and a map and a few other bits or bolt on a super charger.(ex mk4 r32 owner) :grin:
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Im quietly confident I would give him a good run for his money... I know I can get 300bhp out of mine without any major mods :rolleyes:
Out of interest what would need to do to get 300bhp out of yours?
I have looked into this and to get to the magic 300 would mean:
1. Miltek
2. Upgraded air intake
3. Remap
I think this might cost in the region of about 1500. or alternatively a stage one supercharge 3500 (330bhp)
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ooooh a good link incase anyone is interested!! Also a nice tasty 330bhp audi s3 on the too..... now that has got me tempted :drool:
http://www.amdtechnik.com/products.variant.cfm?variantid=351
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That car will be truly awesome as the 4WD will get the power down well. This will be on my list in when it comes to change the ED30.
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Don't mess about with a supercharger.....HPA twin turbo's for the R32 is where it is at...565bhp :shocked:
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Yep! I am definately feeling the s3!! It is something I would consider when it comes to a change.. good quality, plenty of power, and the sure foot stability of a 4wd... lovelly!!
I would very much like to go all out for twin turbo's :evil: but 20k is a bit steep (remember you have to upgrade a fair few other bits too)
But what a thought :grin: :grin: Would be blowing CBR's out of the water!! Now that would be a sight :evil:
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Yep! I am definately feeling the s3!! It is something I would consider when it comes to a change.. good quality, plenty of power, and the sure foot stability of a 4wd... lovelly!!
I would very much like to go all out for twin turbo's :evil: but 20k is a bit steep (remember you have to upgrade a fair few other bits too)
But what a thought :grin: :grin: Would be blowing CBR's out of the water!! Now that would be a sight :evil:
S3 is overpriced. :lipsrsealed:
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Yep! I am definately feeling the s3!! It is something I would consider when it comes to a change.. good quality, plenty of power, and the sure foot stability of a 4wd... lovelly!!
I would very much like to go all out for twin turbo's :evil: but 20k is a bit steep (remember you have to upgrade a fair few other bits too)
But what a thought :grin: :grin: Would be blowing CBR's out of the water!! Now that would be a sight :evil:
S3 is overpriced. :lipsrsealed:
I dont think so... S3 + £600 gets you 330bhp, 4wd, and a better quality interior than the golf. Not to mention a very good looking car... Only thing that would put me off is 3drs
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Yep! I am definately feeling the s3!! It is something I would consider when it comes to a change.. good quality, plenty of power, and the sure foot stability of a 4wd... lovelly!!
I would very much like to go all out for twin turbo's :evil: but 20k is a bit steep (remember you have to upgrade a fair few other bits too)
But what a thought :grin: :grin: Would be blowing CBR's out of the water!! Now that would be a sight :evil:
S3 is overpriced. :lipsrsealed:
I dont think so... S3 + £600 gets you 330bhp, 4wd, and a better quality interior than the golf. Not to mention a very good looking car... Only thing that would put me off is 3drs
And they only come as a manual :sick:
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for me a price hike of 1/3 compared to E30 does not justify 4wd, 265hp, better materials inside (the build quality in E30 is not worse than in S3, and design preference is subjective factor), and better looks. For me S3 is overpriced, you pay for the brand name mostly.
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personally I like the S3 , and with a remap the 4wd comes into its own.
My biggest gripe , is that the restyle was just too subtle and not agressive enough.
That and the aloys were poor design, the whole package just didnt gel
However it does have a quality feel inside and rarer that ED30's :laugh:
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for me a price hike of 1/3 compared to E30 does not justify 4wd, 265hp, better materials inside (the build quality in E30 is not worse than in S3, and design preference is subjective factor), and better looks. For me S3 is overpriced, you pay for the brand name mostly.
Spot on my sentiments Peskarik. :wink:
All I would add is that it only comes as 3 door and only as manual as I said before
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for me a price hike of 1/3 compared to E30 does not justify 4wd, 265hp, better materials inside (the build quality in E30 is not worse than in S3, and design preference is subjective factor), and better looks. For me S3 is overpriced, you pay for the brand name mostly.
Spot on my sentiments Peskarik. :wink:
All I would add is that it only comes as 3 door and only as manual as I said before
the points you mention are POSITIVE for me. :smiley: I like 3d and manual. :smiley:
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for me a price hike of 1/3 compared to E30 does not justify 4wd, 265hp, better materials inside (the build quality in E30 is not worse than in S3, and design preference is subjective factor), and better looks. For me S3 is overpriced, you pay for the brand name mostly.
Spot on my sentiments Peskarik. :wink:
All I would add is that it only comes as 3 door and only as manual as I said before
Hurdy, is your camera on LSD or magic mushrooms or something? :grin:
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for me a price hike of 1/3 compared to E30 does not justify 4wd, 265hp, better materials inside (the build quality in E30 is not worse than in S3, and design preference is subjective factor), and better looks. For me S3 is overpriced, you pay for the brand name mostly.
Spot on my sentiments Peskarik. :wink:
All I would add is that it only comes as 3 door and only as manual as I said before
Hurdy, is your camera on LSD or magic mushrooms or something? :grin:
You mean my sig :laugh: ....Just getting back into my stride as a photoshop god :wink:
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Manual probably because dsg doesnt handle that kind of power so well????
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Manual probably because dsg doesnt handle that kind of power so well????
DSG is designed for maximum 400Nm of Torque