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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: telboy on 03 June 2007, 08:29
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Hi all,
Only me second post, still waiting on response to first re wind noise at 80 mph along side of car? :laugh: Anyways, I have a laser blue Golf mkv gti dsg on an 05 plate with all the toys (minus leather) 23k miles on the clock.
I was wondering if any one could conifrm what the actual 0-60 time of the golf gti with dsg is, not the brochure time as this I have beaten on numerous occassions. I have heard 0-60 is capable in 6.5 secs and top speed of over 150mph? I also have heard there is a software upgrade that enables the highline computer to show 0-60, 0-90 etc? Anyone got this and if so any good? :evil:
Would be interested to hear what others are achieving.
Thanks All :grin:
T
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Hi telboy,
VW driver magazine do full roadtests and acheived the following:-
0-50 4.7
0-60 6.3
0-70 8.2
0-80 10.7
30-50(in third) 2.3
50-70(in third) 3.4
Max speed 145 mph
Hope this helps :smiley:
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and they acheived 0-60 in 6.0s for the manual!
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and they acheived 0-60 in 6.0s for the manual!
0-60 in 6 ?!
cmon! How did they manage to do that? :undecided:
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and they acheived 0-60 in 6.0s for the manual!
0-60 in 6 ?!
cmon! How did they manage to do that? :undecided:
thats what they said - I'll dig up the review and date. Looks suspect to me
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Manual version is slower than DSG and thats fact, nice to see another person with laser blue!! cant believe the numbers of new members coming in with them lately!!, soon we will take over the world!!!!!.
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What we need are some willing volunteers who are going to the GTI International show to go down the quarter mile and post their times on here. Sort of an official GolfGTI.co.uk reference to 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Both standard and modified versions of GTI, TDI, ED30, R32, FSI etc. The more the merrier. :cool:
If we got enough times I could even sticky it :wink:
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Autocar a couple of weeks ago ran a test - DSG vs Manual. They concluded that the manual was faster and pulled harder from stand still - this was after numerous runs apparently. Maybe they had a dodgy DSG?!
Both cars are 5 stars so pay ur money and take ur choice.
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Autocar a couple of weeks ago ran a test - DSG vs Manual. They concluded that the manual was faster and pulled harder from stand still - this was after numerous runs apparently. Maybe they had a dodgy DSG?!
Both cars are 5 stars so pay ur money and take ur choice.
I bet they weren't using the infamous launch control, if you go to you tube and put in golf dsg v manual, there's a comprehensive test where the DSG out performs the manual in every aspect but only because they use this launch control thingy? Either way both dsg or manual, the car is a true GTI!!!
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Autocar a couple of weeks ago ran a test - DSG vs Manual. They concluded that the manual was faster and pulled harder from stand still - this was after numerous runs apparently. Maybe they had a dodgy DSG?!
Both cars are 5 stars so pay ur money and take ur choice.
I bet they weren't using the infamous launch control, if you go to you tube and put in golf dsg v manual, there's a comprehensive test where the DSG out performs the manual in every aspect but only because they use this launch control thingy? Either way both dsg or manual, the car is a true GTI!!!
Thats what i'm suspecting... otherwise i'll change my Edition 30 order back to manual asap.
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Autocar a couple of weeks ago ran a test - DSG vs Manual. They concluded that the manual was faster and pulled harder from stand still - this was after numerous runs apparently. Maybe they had a dodgy DSG?!
Both cars are 5 stars so pay ur money and take ur choice.
I bet they weren't using the infamous launch control, if you go to you tube and put in golf dsg v manual, there's a comprehensive test where the DSG out performs the manual in every aspect but only because they use this launch control thingy? Either way both dsg or manual, the car is a true GTI!!!
Thats what i'm suspecting... otherwise i'll change my Edition 30 order back to manual asap.
Launch control is apparently not enabled on all cars. Also, what does it do to the clutch? :undecided:
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erh, launch control is only for DSG GTI and R32, and also it doesnt have a clutch, so nothing to worry about!
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erh, launch control is only for DSG GTI and R32, and also it doesnt have a clutch, so nothing to worry about!
Right, actually it has 2 clutches.
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And even on some GTIs the launch control is disengaged, I've read about this on other forums.
I am not an engineer, but I think using launch control all the time does not do your car good. I believe I've read something like this, it was discussion of dsg in audi.
And yes, I know launch control only applies to DSG, Phil. :smiley:
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Launch control is apparently not enabled on all cars. Also, what does it do to the clutch? :undecided:
Quoted by Peskarik
erh, who said it had one clutch to start with?????
and i know you say your not an engineer, and the clutches in the dsg are not of the same type and operating method as a standard Gearbox to flywheel cupler. sorry if thats makes me no longer look the idiot :smug:
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Launch control is apparently not enabled on all cars. Also, what does it do to the clutch? :undecided:
Quoted by Peskarik
erh, who said it had one clutch to start with?????
and i know you say your not an engineer, and the clutches in the dsg are not of the same type and operating method as a standard Gearbox to flywheel cupler. sorry if thats makes me no longer look the idiot :smug:
Why would I want to make you look like an idiot? :huh:
What I'm saying is that I think LC is not healthy for your car. If there was a golf with DSG, run-in by the book etc but I knew the owner was a keen LC user, I would not buy the car, would you?
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erh, launch control is only for DSG GTI and R32, and also it doesnt have a clutch, so nothing to worry about!
Right, actually it has 2 clutches.
thats right :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Found this clip, i thought the R32 DSG was quicker then GTI DSG, Both cars standard spec, GTi's faster to 60!!, incase you dont realise, red car is the GTi!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhZ9aipw0CY
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why the fook would you spend the extra cash on an r32!!
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What we need are some willing volunteers who are going to the GTI International show to go down the quarter mile and post their times on here. Sort of an official GolfGTI.co.uk reference to 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Both standard and modified versions of GTI, TDI, ED30, R32, FSI etc.
RS4, with Michelin Pilot Cup race tyres . . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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erh, launch control is only for DSG GTI and R32, and also it doesnt have a clutch, so nothing to worry about!
Been eating too many 'shrooms??
Actually, I think you'll find launch control is enabled on all DSG cars - it just isn't documented in the owners manuals. Indeedy, b4 ordering the GTI, SWMBO and I were also considering the A3, and we borrowed a demo A3 3.2 with DSG, and that certainy had launch control enabled :wink: :wink: :wink: - but there was naff all about it in the manual! :smug:
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I am not an engineer, but I think using launch control all the time does not do your car good. I believe I've read something like this, it was discussion of dsg in audi.
Well sort of true. But neither would Lewis Hamilton starts from every red light and junction be any good for ANY car - manual, auto or DSG.
Lets put this into perspective. The VAG DSG has no prescribed limits of using launch control - unlike the BMW SMG, which actually stores the number of uses of launch control in it's ECU EEPROM. Furthermore, the clutch design used in the DSG box is a well proven technology - indeed, it is identical to motorcycle clutches (except the Ducati dry clutches). There is also an ECU controlled over-ride, if the box oil temperature gets to hot - so, using launch control in moderation should not cause any discernable degridation to the DSG box.
Abuse is a different kettle of fish though!
At the end of the day, why have a dog, if you are going to bark for yourself?
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I am not an engineer, but I think using launch control all the time does not do your car good. I believe I've read something like this, it was discussion of dsg in audi.
Well sort of true. But neither would Lewis Hamilton starts from every red light and junction be any good for ANY car - manual, auto or DSG.
Lets put this into perspective. The VAG DSG has no prescribed limits of using launch control - unlike the BMW SMG, which actually stores the number of uses of launch control in it's ECU EEPROM. Furthermore, the clutch design used in the DSG box is a well proven technology - indeed, it is identical to motorcycle clutches (except the Ducati dry clutches). There is also an ECU controlled over-ride, if the box oil temperature gets to hot - so, using launch control in moderation should not cause any discernable degridation to the DSG box.
Abuse is a different kettle of fish though!
At the end of the day, why have a dog, if you are going to bark for yourself?
thumbs up on bark reference :smiley:
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erh, launch control is only for DSG GTI and R32, and also it doesnt have a clutch, so nothing to worry about!
Been eating too many 'shrooms??
Actually, I think you'll find launch control is enabled on all DSG cars - it just isn't documented in the owners manuals. Indeedy, b4 ordering the GTI, SWMBO and I were also considering the A3, and we borrowed a demo A3 3.2 with DSG, and that certainy had launch control enabled :wink: :wink: :wink: - but there was naff all about it in the manual! :smug:
They've put it in the latest manual as a supplement. Its in mine under the Ed30 supplement. :nerd:
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Back from a trip to my local stealer today and one of their technicians has just come back from a performance workshop for the golf gti dsg. He confirmed that launch control is enabled on all gti dsg's and is going to show me how to use next week and get this it apparently reduces the sprint time by half a second!!!! :grin:
They were achieving sprints under 6.5!!! He also said that the car is capable of 150mph+
All sounds good to me,....get me to germany for a test drive!!!
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Launch control works fine on mine, although the wheels spin pretty enthusiastically :rolleyes:
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Launch control works fine on mine, although the wheels spin pretty enthusiastically :rolleyes:
That's Dunlops for you! Do it often enough, and you'll soon be able to enjoy the virtues <grip :wink:> of Mich PS2s !!!
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I have never driven a GTI before :cry:
But i think i would prefer manual rather than DSG....
Car just feels more lively.... (But bare in mind I'm comparing this to the Tiptronic/automatic gearbox in our Pajero)
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I have never driven a GTI before :cry:
But i think i would prefer manual rather than DSG....
Car just feels more lively.... (But bare in mind I'm comparing this to the Tiptronic/automatic gearbox in our Pajero)
with manual at least you do not feel like you driving a Goddamn computer! IMHO, of course.
It's computers everywhere! :angry: Let me at least do some shifting on my own, yo! :nerd:
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:grin: :grin:
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Somebody will say "you can shift with paddles". Sure you can, but it is oh so perfect, clinical. I wanna make mistakes and learn something!
Also, I do not fancy keeping my hands on my wheel all the time - click, click, click, click.. I like to keep my right hand on my girl's thigh, maybe :smiley: And the stick is closer to the thigh, so less pain of separation :smiley:
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I have never driven a GTI before :cry:
But i think i would prefer manual rather than DSG....
Car just feels more lively.... (But bare in mind I'm comparing this to the Tiptronic/automatic gearbox in our Pajero)
Ah, but the DSG is a quantum leap away from any other kind of conventional autobox (epicyclic gears and a torque converter), even if they do have "tiptronic" controls.
Before I ordered my current RS4, I drove the latest S6, which dispite having the tweaked Lambo 5.2 V10 - still has the conventional autobox with tiptronic. The box was truely aweful, and I really cant see why peeps buy them (the autoboxes).
I've driven many, many different autoboxes (and CVTs, EasyTronics, and even bus pre-selectors :nerd:), and even some of the very best ones, like BMW autos - really are no comparison to the DSG.
I really would recommend trying the DSG, ideally for a whole day, before dissing it.
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Somebody will say "you can shift with paddles". Sure you can, but it is oh so perfect, clinical. I wanna make mistakes and learn something!
Fair comment. I suppose I'm well past wanting to make mistakes!
Also, I do not fancy keeping my hands on my wheel all the time - click, click, click, click.. I like to keep my right hand on my girl's thigh, maybe :smiley: And the stick is closer to the thigh, so less pain of separation :smiley:
Then use the DSG stick for the manual changes, and you can still get your (girls') thrill !!! :wink: :wink:
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Somebody will say "you can shift with paddles". Sure you can, but it is oh so perfect, clinical. I wanna make mistakes and learn something!
Fair comment. I suppose I'm well past wanting to make mistakes!
Also, I do not fancy keeping my hands on my wheel all the time - click, click, click, click.. I like to keep my right hand on my girl's thigh, maybe :smiley: And the stick is closer to the thigh, so less pain of separation :smiley:
Then use the DSG stick for the manual changes, and you can still get your (girls') thrill !!! :wink: :wink:
I know about DSG being quantum leap and all... I tried it (not the whole day), I tried BMW's paddles on M5... no, I like manual, I like heel-toe, there's no way I buy DSG or any other "automatic" box. I'd just be miserable, I know it.