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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: eightace on 01 October 2006, 19:28
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I am hoping to get a new mowta and was going to get a GT TDI 5 door for the following reasons:
Cost - cheaper than GTI
Fuel consumption - diesel better and cheaper in long term
Diesel engine indesctructible and would last forever
With remapping should be able to get PSI up to >200
Not too flash so as to be a boy racer crime victim
Dad works for VW dealership and can get discount on non-GTI non-R32 VW Golfs
Can anyone give me reasons why I should reconsider? :undecided:
Would a GTI be better at resale and would I notice the petrol engine that much?
Thanks, hope this is the first of many posts
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yes mate, go for the gti with dsg, get as many extras as poss for your money as you can , if u need bad things to know about the diesel versions, go to whatcar.co.uk and read customer feedbacks ref all the different golfs , alot of peeps saying gt versions are poor, rough running, rattly etc,general car togetherness being poor, and not one has a bad review about the gti 200 version, resale values hold better the gt diesel. performance, although fuel econamy around town is not the lightest on the pocket is the only poor ish thing i can think of
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GTI all the way mate.
Had the same dilemma a couple of months back. Took the GTi for a test drive and fell in love with it. Maybe the insurance is steep and the mpg is pretty poor (depending on how you drive), but the GTi is an great car. I luckily found one with the dsg gearbox, which I have to say is amazing. :smiley:
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Can anyone give me reasons why I should reconsider? :undecided:
Well, you have to weigh up you personal pros and cons but for me, i thought bout the last few cars i owned...
Mondeo Zetec-s tdci... because I wanted an ST220
Fiesta Zetec-s tdci...because I wanted a Fiesta ST
Both good cars...but not what i wanted. Always nearly, but quite.
I wanted a golf GTI...and I got 1!!!
If you can afford the running cost and enjoy the car i would say go for the GTI. If you do alot of miles and/ or worried about MPG get the TDI
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Have a go in a GTI then a GT TDI, and make your decision, i think you will push the boat that bit further for the GTI.
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Just got a GTI after having an Audi A4 diesel. Yeah, you're right, the VAG diesels are pretty refined, and you get loads of mpg out of them. But after 2 days of driving my GTI I just don't care that it's going to cost me twice as much in fuel! The car is just great to drive. Try them both out and you will see what I mean. Just accelerating onto a motorway is fun!
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Had same dilemma went for the GT TDI because of running costs. Good car but cost me more in the long run as traded it in for a GTI 9 months later. The extra grin is worth the extra £.
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hello, think about this-
When your driving around in your GT TDI :cool:and you see a GTI I bet deep down you will be saying to yourself i wish i had one of them :sick:
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GTI...
Just do it man
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GTI...
Just do it man
That is what I wanted to avoid - just splashing the cash without good reason :nerd:
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I got a new GT TDi 170 as a company car - goes really well 0-60 about 8s and 45mpg, especially mid range accleration and does give the GTis a run for their money - but, all said its NOT a proper GTi :cry:
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The extra weight of the TDI engine means when your on one it under steers like a pig. That low down torque is great and most cars can't compeat with it. Again when your on one the lack of power higher up in the rev range is a pain in the ass. 75% of the time I was happy with my GT TDI. The GTI is special and I feel privileged every time I drive it. If cost is the biggest concern buy the TDI, other wise test drive them both and you will no what
GTI...
Just do it man
means.
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Horses for courses .... I got the GT Tdi when they first came out.
Great engine, massive torque & very flexible. Running costs are fantastic 45+ mpg cheap Road Tax (Went down to £110). Fun to drive. However and I only realised this when I picked up my new R32 - I bought the Tdi with my head, and I have never, never bought a car with my head before ..... and I will never again :laugh:
Plus the V6 is soooo smooth
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Too damn right Kevi :laugh: If I'd used my head I would be walking and cycling around but I used the house deposit and got the GTI - theres always next year for the house :laugh: :grin:
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Depends what you are used to driving. I had a Mark 3 GTI 16v and I have to say the TDI 2 litre engine is great fun to drive and still has plenty of welly. Goes just as well if not better than my old car. Today some perp on the motorway was trying to box me in and I just cruised away...acceleration at 80mph plus is really sweet...and it is good at other speeds too. Fuel consumption is GR8. You can still get a good 50 to the gallon driving it hard...if you want to. Personally I like the lower emmissions and better fuel yet still wanted a fun car to drive. Aside from low speeds you can totally forget you are in a diesel....and guess what I got my insurance for £210 fully comp with discount protected. Car looks neat too. I did try the 1.9 TDI which was OK but takes a while for acceleration to kick in at around 50's...so I found the 2 litre much more fun...and no I don't envy the boy racers in their GTI's...infact I don't much like the look of the grill....looks too girlie for me and ruins the car...now the next one up...that looks cool but no way on the gas and price. Go for the TDI, have fun and feel smug too!
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if you want to get a diesel, its pointless getting a GT golf. go for the sport model or the new match (replaces SE). still get loads of features, looks almost the same as a GT, will be more economical and cheaper, performance will be good enough.
my problem with the GT TDI is its too in between a GTI and the sport model. its not sure whether its a hot hatch or an economical lookalike.
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I got a new GT TDi 170 as a company car - goes really well 0-60 about 8s and 45mpg, especially mid range accleration and does give the GTis a run for their money - but, all said its NOT a proper GTi :cry:
We had a Diesel GTi and they are the nuts! They are torquey and lots of fun. I have no problem with them but then I do also have my toy.
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Call me a wimp (ok not everyone at the same time) !!
I wanted the gti but made the mistake of taking the wife with me to the showroom - end result I've now got the GT TDI coz the other half liked the colour !!
Moral of the story is: woman do cooking man do secret hunting trip
Happy motoring whatever u choose
Brig
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The plan.............
Get the GT TDI with all the frills and get it remapped to take it from 170BHP to 200 which would equal the GTI.
Accelaration would not be the same but that isn't so important to me.
Good idea? :grin:
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a brilliant idea!
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ok, i thought long and hard about this and reached a verdict:
if you want the 170PS GT, spend the extra cash and instead get the GTI.
if you want the 140PS GT, get the golf sport model and that will save u some money. u dont get the flashy GT styling with the 140PS models anyway.
conclusion: dont buy a GT, unless you are keen on the styling and happy to be in between the sport and the GTI.
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You can re map the TDI to near GTI figures but then you can re map the GTI to STI figures.
Every one keeps going on about power but what about the handling? Take the styling, money factors, what spec etc etc etc, out of the equation. The GTI gives you thrills you don't get in the TDI.
Have you had a test drive yet?
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Bored tonight so I took a speedo shot of my gt tdi 170 accelerating (on private land of course)- I think I could do with one of those DSG boxes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL1wgmh-VTE
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.............and a petrol 2.0 litre petrol engine from the gti!, diesel starts well put just starts to get puffed out from 80mph....
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Never seen a shot of a stock 2.0 GTi accerating so I cant compare it.
what are they like?
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Best bet , look at youtube.com, look for golf gti videos and you will see someone has done the same as you will a golf gti dsg, 0-60 in 6 seconds dead,.there is a bid difference, gti pulls alot better.
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how quick was my diesel then to 60?
just took a peek on there - there is some quick ones - the dsg ones seem much better