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Title: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: C3 WDE on 02 July 2020, 00:39
Hi, I’m new to the forum

Currently in the process of selling my M240i and I’m looking to replace it with a 5dr GTI hopefully in the next week or so if all goes to plan.

Reason I’m looking towards a GTI again is I loved my MK5 I had and honestly never had many problems with it at the time in the three years I had it plus the newer MK7 15 reg onwards I’m looking at have all the modern facilities I would like...

I do have a few general questions

Gearbox
How many of you have opted for manual / DSG?
I’ve never driven DSG but everywhere I read it seems everyone has one these days and they seem pretty much faultless?...
Anyone experienced any issues?
I know the Manuals are commonly known for chocolate clutches depending on who has driven the car and how but I can’t help wanting to stick with manual as I dread the thought of a DSG going wrong in my ownership and having to shell out to fix / replace

Regardless of what I choose when I begin viewing cars to buy is there anything I should watch out for in terms of gear boxes? Any tests I should do when driving to ensure no issues exist already before purchasing?

I’ll be honest I’ve never had a clutch slip or had issues with clutches before on any of my cars so I don’t know if I could feel or pick up on one being faulty if I drive a car So any tips would be great...

Last one on choice of gear box... Why did you opt for DSG / Mqnual over the alternative and are you happy or would you change?

Options
As I haven’t looked at the Golfs since I had my MK5 I’m a little out of sync with what options are available on what models. I’m looking at buying at 15 reg or newer and I have seen cars listed with:

Heated Seats - Leather / tartan

Dynaudio - I know this is upgraded sound pack but haven’t seen many with this... is it honestly worth holding back until I find a car with this?

Performance Pack - I know so far this includes a electronic diff... is this on all PP models? Also includes larger brakes and small power increase. Now I know aesthetically the brakes look much nicer and I’m a fan of that but are they a must have for someone who let’s say doesn’t do track days?..I know this is subjective so just an idea on who has this on their GTI and if you didn’t have the bigger brakes, would you miss not having them?... to me the power difference is neither here or there.

DCC - Never has this on any of my cars and honestly I don’t think I need this as I’ve never had it so therefore don’t feel I’ll miss it if I didn’t have it plus it sounds like it’s something else to go wrong making a higher bill...

Infotainment - I’m getting lost when I look at this as most I’ve seen tend to have Nav which is nice to have when you need it however what’s the difference between what I can only presume is standard Nav and the one that has the bigger screen?
Also can anyone expand on the Apple car play etc and how to tell if a car has this or of its enabled and working as I think I’ve read cars may seem to have it but if it’s not coded or enabled you cannot use it? Any help to gain knowledge on the infotainment side of things would be great as I’m clueless so not sure what’s included and what can be problematic or how easy it is to retrofit things and how expensive this may be...

Wheels - I’ve seen the standard GTI wheels and the Santiago’s I believe their called? Are either prone to cracking or anything? I’m aware of the infamous white worm on the diamond cut finish...

Other than that... is there any other options I’ve missed or people would expand or recommend?


Cost
Another thing I’m thinking of is maintenance costs...
Standard engine service to one side as we all know what to roughly expect.. What’s the cost difference of replacing discs and pads for standard brakes in comparison the the PP brakes?
Does the PP diff require servicing and if so what cost?
DSG I am aware this needs doing every 38-40k? And of course I would not buy one that hasn’t been done
Any thing recommend to check or have replaced if dealer is willing to such as bushes of any sort?

I think that’s it for now...
Thank you for reading and look forward to hearing some feedback / answers
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Phil245 on 02 July 2020, 07:41
There's a lot of questions there...!

I can answer a couple......

I chose the manual because I want to decide what gear the car is in.  Having the computer decide is not an advantage to me, and certainly not one I would pay for. Other people will obviously feel different. But I prefer to "drive" the car and make the decisions.  And the rest of our fleet being manual, it is more intuitive, for me !

The VAQ diff does require a service.  I believe its at 4 years and needs an oil change with dealers charging around a hundred quid. There are vids on you tube.

The PP is nice to have and may make the car more desirable when you sell it.

Will I ever use the bigger brakes to their full potential, or that extra 15hp, or indeed many of the other features of the car and it's performance...??

No. Never.  But on that basis I would have bought a 1 litre Corsa......!!

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Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Watts on 02 July 2020, 08:23
You will probably need to try the dsg before you decide, many love it. Personally I think it's good but with some drawbacks. It can be slow to respond, has too many settings imo and would've been smoother as a proper full auto. I also think it takes some of the fun out of driving, my old PP manual was often more exciting so given the choice my preference would be a manual. In 40k miles I had no clutch issues. On a positive note for the dsg, it is a very relaxing drive and if you like cruise control it works better with that. On the other hand though the stop/start system is much better with a manual, on the dsg it doesn't always cut in when it should then if the car in front moves an inch the engine starts even if you don't intend to move.

PP isn't a must have, more a very nice to have but for the GTI on the calipers alone it is well worth it! I would go for it if I were you.

Leather? Just bear in mind that not all of it actually is leather.... Plus the tartan is rather cheery.

Costs wise, on a MK7 the waterpump/thermostat housing is a very common failure and if it hasn't been done I'd have some funds set aside as chances are they will go and probably fairly soon. Batteries are expensive too. The turbos on early cars could be problematic but any dodgy ones would likely have been sorted by now.

If you can push it to a 16 plate you should get the later MIB2 with a slightly bigger screen. Also keyless was standard along with heated seats. On early 15 plates nav was an option too to bear in mind.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 July 2020, 09:07
Depends on what your budget will stretch to but I'd consider a facelift if I were you as you get a much fresher looking car and more standard kit including the LED headlights and digital dash plus the much bigger glass screen.
The facelift is from mid-2017 onwards and will be £18k for the 230 model although facelift 245 Performance models start later in 2017 on 67 plates and you'll need £20k for a car without many/any options.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: barrym381 on 02 July 2020, 10:38
Cost - my GTi is approaching 38k and has just been serviced. Including air con, it was around £480 and there was no mention of a DSG service at this mileage. Intermediary service is £179 I think, every 9k.

38k for a GTI  :grin:
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: SRGTD on 02 July 2020, 11:30
Cost - my GTi is approaching 38k and has just been serviced. Including air con, it was around £480 and there was no mention of a DSG service at this mileage. Intermediary service is £179 I think, every 9k.

38k for a GTI  :grin:

I think the 38k is the car’s mileage. The reference to cost relates to the servicing costs.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: barrym381 on 02 July 2020, 11:38
Cost - my GTi is approaching 38k and has just been serviced. Including air con, it was around £480 and there was no mention of a DSG service at this mileage. Intermediary service is £179 I think, every 9k.

38k for a GTI  :grin:

I think the 38k is the car’s mileage. The reference to cost relates to the servicing costs.
I hope I’ve read it wrong  :grin:
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: barrym381 on 02 July 2020, 12:29
yes, 38k miles
Thank goodness for that I nearly swallowed my breakfast spoon reading that earlier  :grin:
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Popinman on 02 July 2020, 13:42
Also keyless was standard along with heated seats. On early 15 plates nav was an option too to bear in mind.

Is this correct? Keyless standard on 2016+? I thought it was 2019+?
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 July 2020, 13:50
I've got a December 16 GTi pp 5 door and that's got keyless.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Sootchucker on 02 July 2020, 14:12
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Watts on 02 July 2020, 14:29
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

Pretty sure it was standard on both but got dropped from the 3dr a year or so later.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Popinman on 02 July 2020, 14:34
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

I'm 99% certain I don't have it on an 2018 5 door PP.....
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: p3asa on 02 July 2020, 14:48
The manual / DSG debate is completely subjective. You would have to try it out for a prolonged period I think.

I jumped to DSG for my R more out of curiosity more than anything else after 30 years of driving manuals.
I only had it a few days and was going up a slip road to join a busy motorway.
Someone flashed me to let me in that was going faster so I put the foot down not realising the car was in 6th gear.
The car seemed to take an eternity to switch down to 3rd and by this time I had joined the queue and had slowed everyone down behind me!!

I was mortified.

Similar scenario at a roundabout, my car pulled out into a gap and no power.

I hated it and thought I'd made a really expensive mistake.
I posted similar on one of the forums and had loads of responses which helped a lot.

Basically the car doesn't know you are about to enter a gap in a fast moving motorway, or see a space entering a roundabout. It just wants to get you to 6th gear as quick as possible.

So you as a driver need to be switched on and take control in these situations.
In a manual you don't even think about changing gears it comes so natural.
In an auto you have this perception that the car does it all for you and yes it does but at certain times you have to take over.

Once you realise that it makes the auto so much more rewarding IMO
Plus with the DSG you can push the gear stick to the side and be in complete manual mode.

Heated seats are standard on leather cars and part of the winter pack on cloth seats. However the winter pack became standard from a certain year.

Infotainment, you had the Discover Navigation Pro that had the bigger screen, DVD player, hard drive that you could put songs on, voice control and I think VW bundled the Nav pro with Dynaudio at the time but maybe someone can clarify that. It was a £1300 option at the time and I can't imagine I'd have paid more for Dynaudio on top of that.

The smaller unit Composition didn't have the above features and you had to use one of the SD card slots for the map.
Here is a side by side courtesy of sootchucher
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254228.msg2331787#msg2331787

Just to throw into the mix MIB I and MIB II. Around about 2015 they brought out MIB II units which gave the smaller screen a slightly bigger screen with better resolution and I'm sure the ability to have carplay

My wife had the smaller screen MIB II and I had the Nav Pro and to be honest yeah the bigger screen is better looking but there was no difference. We took her car away for a few days and by the end of it I certainly didn't miss my bigger Nav pro.
Same goes with Dynaudio I have it, she didn't. Cranking up the volume you are aware its different but for me not massively different.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 02 July 2020, 14:51
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

I'm 99% certain I don't have it on an 2018 5 door PP.....

Keyless was added on for run-out models in 2016 I think and then dropped as standard for the Mk7.5 then made standard again for 2019. Unless it's a 3dr!
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Popinman on 02 July 2020, 15:39
Wasn't it just the 3 door that got it dropped back in the day ?

I'm 99% certain I don't have it on an 2018 5 door PP.....

Keyless was added on for run-out models in 2016 I think and then dropped as standard for the Mk7.5 then made standard again for 2019. Unless it's a 3dr!

Ah, that makes sense, thanks Jim.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: C3 WDE on 02 July 2020, 21:45
The manual / DSG debate is completely subjective. You would have to try it out for a prolonged period I think.

I jumped to DSG for my R more out of curiosity more than anything else after 30 years of driving manuals.
I only had it a few days and was going up a slip road to join a busy motorway.
Someone flashed me to let me in that was going faster so I put the foot down not realising the car was in 6th gear.
The car seemed to take an eternity to switch down to 3rd and by this time I had joined the queue and had slowed everyone down behind me!!

I was mortified.

Similar scenario at a roundabout, my car pulled out into a gap and no power.
Plus with the DSG you can push the gear stick to the side and be in complete manual

So this was the sort of feedback / experience I was wanting to see and talk about as well as the people that love DSG and the people that would never have one... I’m quite open minded

I’ve seen people comment about the DSG being laggy / slow upon kicking it down and stepping on it... Some people have commented on this and said it’s down to pressing on the accelerator whilst shifting down and advised to lift off whilst kicking it down and then put your foot down... I’m wondering if you have also seen / tried this and noticed any difference?

Personally I like the idea of having Auto and it changing gear for optimum economy etc but also Love the idea of having it in manual for scenarios like what you have described where I can chose the gear I want with the paddles like you would in manual and kick it down a gear or 2 when I want to overtake or filter in etc... Dp you often drive in manual mode? If so when?.
When in manual mode are you still able to utilise Eco / Normal / Sport modes? Not sure what these modes are named in the VW yet
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: C3 WDE on 02 July 2020, 22:00
Also in regards to infotainment systems...

I understand there’s MIB I / MIB II / then I’ve seen Discover Nav / Discover Nav Pro? And this is available is both MIB I / II guises... Am I right so far?
And correct me if I’m wrong MIB II is a newer revised unit from the previous MIB I unit?
MIB II being the one having a slightly larger screen than the MIB I with some improvements on resolution and extra features such as CarPlay?...

Is Apple CarPlay on all MIB II units? or is this something that is specced with this unit as an extra?
Is Apple CarPlay something that you pay a monthly subscription for to use or is it something that once specced or if you have this you can continue to use?
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Guzzle on 02 July 2020, 23:09
To get Apple CarPlay on an MIB2 unit you need App-connect. This also includes Android Auto.

This was standard on Discover Pro, or a paid option on Discover Nav. It can also be activated via the dealer if it wasn't originally specced by the first owner. There is no monthly subscription to pay. There have been a few instances where early Discover Nav MIB2 units aren't compatible with App-Connect, but later ones should be. Look for the App-Connect icon on the screen.

MIB1 are the first generation units and aren't compatible with App-Connect, MIB2 are the second generation units that were introduced to cars built after week 22 2015. MIB2 units also have a slightly larger and higher resolution screen.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: C3 WDE on 02 July 2020, 23:20
To get Apple CarPlay on an MIB2 unit you need App-connect. This also includes Android Auto.

This was standard on Discover Pro, or a paid option on Discover Nav. It can also be activated via the dealer if it wasn't originally specced by the first owner. There is no monthly subscription to pay. There have been a few instances where early Discover Nav MIB2 units aren't compatible with App-Connect, but later ones should be. Look for the App-Connect icon on the screen.

MIB1 are the first generation units and aren't compatible with App-Connect, MIB2 are the second generation units that were introduced to cars built after week 22 2015. MIB2 units also have a slightly larger and higher resolution screen.

Perfect! Thank you for this! Feeling much more knowledgeable now!

Next up is what’s the name of the much newer looking revision seen in the MK7.5s? Just so I have some knowledge on the differences

Seen 1 or 2 facelift cars in my budget but very few and far between so I think I’m going to stick to looking at 15/16/early 17 reg cars unless a 67 one becomes available with I’m he new digi dash etc...

Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Guzzle on 02 July 2020, 23:34
Mk7.5 cars come with 3rd generation MIB3 units. Still known as Discover Nav (standard) and Discover Pro (optional), but App-Connect is standard on all Mk7.5 Golf's except 'S' trim.

If you search the forum, it is possible to upgrade the MIB2 unit with a MIB3 screen. It was posted.on here only recently.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: p3asa on 03 July 2020, 13:43
The manual / DSG debate is completely subjective. You would have to try it out for a prolonged period I think.

I jumped to DSG for my R more out of curiosity more than anything else after 30 years of driving manuals.
I only had it a few days and was going up a slip road to join a busy motorway.
Someone flashed me to let me in that was going faster so I put the foot down not realising the car was in 6th gear.
The car seemed to take an eternity to switch down to 3rd and by this time I had joined the queue and had slowed everyone down behind me!!

I was mortified.

Similar scenario at a roundabout, my car pulled out into a gap and no power.
Plus with the DSG you can push the gear stick to the side and be in complete manual

So this was the sort of feedback / experience I was wanting to see and talk about as well as the people that love DSG and the people that would never have one... I’m quite open minded

I’ve seen people comment about the DSG being laggy / slow upon kicking it down and stepping on it... Some people have commented on this and said it’s down to pressing on the accelerator whilst shifting down and advised to lift off whilst kicking it down and then put your foot down... I’m wondering if you have also seen / tried this and noticed any difference?

Personally I like the idea of having Auto and it changing gear for optimum economy etc but also Love the idea of having it in manual for scenarios like what you have described where I can chose the gear I want with the paddles like you would in manual and kick it down a gear or 2 when I want to overtake or filter in etc... Dp you often drive in manual mode? If so when?.
When in manual mode are you still able to utilise Eco / Normal / Sport modes? Not sure what these modes are named in the VW yet

I tried to hire a DSG car similar to the Golf R before pulling the trigger but Avis that had Audi S3's to hire said they couldn't guarantee I would get the car I wanted. I just didn't want to fork out for something I later really regretted.

As for kicking it down. I think I've only done it that way a handful of times. I mostly use the paddles if I want to come down and don't notice that much lag. Remember in a manual car you can go from 6th to 3rd instantly, missing out the gears in between. The DSG has to work its way down through the gears hence what you think is a delay!

The delay I'm mostly aware of is going from drive to reverse. Sometimes it feels like an eternity. A quick 3 / 5 point turn isn't an option  :grin:

I'm not sure about lifting your foot off the accelerator before kicking down as that defeats the purpose. The car would naturally slow as soon as you do this. Anything I've read says always keep your foot on the gas while changing gears. As folk that are new to a DSG have been taking their foot off the gas like what they do in a manual while changing gear.

I'll give it a go and report back.

I just mostly leave mine in auto and then use the paddles for more control.
Every now and then I'll push the gear stick to the side and drive in manual mode. You can then use the gear stick to change gears by pushing forward to go up a gear or back to come down a gear or use the paddles. The only time the car will intervene is if you are in far too high a gear for the speed, it will step down to a gear that will work at that speed.

 
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Exonian on 03 July 2020, 16:24
Hi, I’m new to the forum

Currently in the process of selling my M240i and I’m looking to replace it with a 5dr GTI...

Welcome C3  :smiley:

Why would you change a 240i for a GTI out of interest?


I’ve got a tiny bit of experience with Golfs so I’ll throw in my tuppence worth.

Options wise, I’d not get hung up on them. Go for the best condition latest model car you can possibly afford.
The later the car the better the standard kit as a non scientific rule of thumb.
Personally I’d sell all the family silver and live off Tesco basic food in order to try and find a way into a very late car. Where there’s a will there’s a way.


I used to be a Dynaudio sceptic but am now a convert.
BUT few cars have the option and the standard kit is ok if you’re not an audiophile fusspot.
There’s a Helix subwoofer that’s available from VW which would do a good job of upgrading the standard kit if you find a car you otherwise love which doesn’t have Dynaudio as standard.

The Performance Pack makes the GTI.
The bigger brakes are useful when you need them most, plus they’re nice and progressive to use.
The diff takes a bit of learning but is really good, it rids the car of understeer and eliminates wheelspin coming off greasy roundabouts or out of tight country road corners.
Ignore the extra headline power in the early models, it’s just there to help justify the extra cost on the pre facelift cars but there are more significant hardware differences on the 245 bhp model.

DCC is a ‘nice to have’ but totally unnecessary. The cars are fine without it.
In fact I’m probably a lone voice but I really don’t rate DCC.

Infotainment discussions bore me senseless so I’ll skip that  :grin:
Again, if you can possibly scrape to a car with the later MIBIII I’d recommend it. CarPlay is good but is fairly ubiquitous in most modern cars(?)


Wheels, I love wheels.
Santiagos look sexy but are a pain in the bum to clean.
Brescias are nice.
If the car has standard 18’s it’s not that expensive to get half decent quality replicas in 19” if you feel you need them.


I’ve had four(?) manual mk7’s and the gearboxes were all good except for my 2013 GTI PP which would occasionally be a bit obstinate.

I’m now in a DSG.
I’d been curious about DSG for years so bit the bullet.
Now I’m one of those people that likes to buy something and lit just to work.
I don’t need 3000 programs on my washing machine, I don’t like my dishwasher to have unfathomable sequences of lights that may or may not tell me it’s going to run a program that’ll be finished before next Xmas.
I wasn’t one of those kids that sat piddling around with computers learning all the different ways you could find “shortcuts” into programs and sub-programs. I like to switch a computer on and be able to do exactly what I need to do without having to spend 15 minutes googling what comes as second nature to a nerd.

DSG gearboxes are utopia for nerds.
There are many ways of achieving exactly the same thing, be it paddles, throttle pedal kick-down switches, various directions of angling the gear lever and so forth.  :nerd:

Seriously, all you need to do is leave it in D, then when you want to go very fast just pull the lever backwards and the car will make progress far quicker than my brain can process. Then when you want to return your pupils to a normal size and decrease your blood pressure just pull it backwards again and calmness and serenity will be restored.

So yeah, get a DSG.
Or a manual, they’re both good.


Costs, well service costs are on a par with any other model of Golf except replacements of the bigger discs or extra VAQ servicing.




Oh, and I’d recommend getting an R not a GTI, it’s a much better car.
But the GTI is a great car.  :wink:



Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Phil245 on 03 July 2020, 16:29
Exonian......

If there was a "like" button.......I would press it...!!
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 July 2020, 17:26
GTi PP over an R any day of the week. Much more engaging drive in a GTi. The R is a great car just boring to drive.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: fredgroves on 03 July 2020, 18:08
DCC is a ‘nice to have’ but totally unnecessary. The cars are fine without it.
In fact I’m probably a lone voice but I really don’t rate DCC.

No, its not just you. I have had both with and without and am definitely in the "don't spend money on DCC" camp. Absolutely not needed on a Mk7, even with 19's.

As for DSG vs manual, I've had two manuals, but next time DSG for me. Wouldn't choose a manual.

Maybe longer term on a second hand car it could be expensive trouble, but nobody knows yet - the oldest 6 speed DSG Mk7 is only 7 years old, the 7 speed is even newer.

The 7 speed DSG on the facelift Mk7.5 is definitely better to drive than the 6 though.

And although I've not seen anyone with it on here, the software tuning for the DSG box really does make it a much better thing to drive. I would definitely be spending money on a DSG software upgrade.

Rest of the options, meh, as others have said, price, age, mileage and condition is how to buy a secondhand car. Forget the options, thats for new purchases only.

The Mk7 GTI is well equipped anyway, the extras are all just nice to haves, you aren't missing anything really by not having any of them. A zero optioned car is still more loaded than most other cars of a similar age.

I'd pick a Mk7.5 DSG (7 speed on the Mk7.5) PP and be done with it.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Exonian on 03 July 2020, 18:14
GTi PP over an R any day of the week. Much more engaging drive in a GTi. The R is a great car just boring to drive.

Hmm, when I had my R after a while I’d have agreed with you. The latter half of my tenure saw me drive it less and less, mostly dual carriageway cruising (rubbish MPG and dull but competent feel thinking a GTD would be a better tool for the job) or stuck in traffic in city outskirts.
The decision was made to sell it, pay off my loan, buy a cheaper car and get a big TV with the proceeds.
That was three and a half years ago, I never did get the new TV and my geriatric Panny plasma lives on.

That last journey in the (almost) bald tyred R was a revelation.
I took it up the back roads between Exeter and just the other side of Taunton along the old A38, driving roads I was once fairly familiar with but had changed lots with housing and commercial estates sprung up where it was once fields and trees. NSL roads have become 40 and 30 limits, swooping bends had become roundabouts and junctions...
That swansong journey saw the very best of the R with a suspension that really came alive when loaded up, infallible traction, an über-responsive engine and that cosseting homely Golf cabin.
R’s aren’t dull, you just have to give them a workout once in a while.
I’d gone from feeling very meh about the R to having a sizeable hole in my heart when I walked away from it £20 odd K wealthier.

A mk2 Golf GTI is more engaging than an R, hell I’ve owned enough of them to know.
A mk7 GTI is a trifle more lively down below but it’s no more engaging. The engine doesn’t rev out well and even at standard power the VAQ can be overcome.
A TCR and Clubsport definitely more fun until the speed really piles on, but no more engaging if you actually open the R taps properly.

An up! GTI would be more engaging. Boy do I wish I’d bought one of those a few years ago.

Anyway, never mind all this Golf crap, check this out for engaging and affordable!!
https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/yaris/gr-yaris-retail-offer?Customer=7843770&CampaignID=C7958&BrochureRCode=RC117902&TestdriveRCode=RC117904&SLVariant=SL1&utm_campaign=TGBYarisEmail4_3A_3B_Jun20&utm_source=CRM&utm_medium=email&utm_content=1SL1

Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Watts on 03 July 2020, 18:52
A mk7 GTI is a trifle more lively down below but it’s no more engaging. The engine doesn’t rev out well

This was one issue that irked me with my PP. Not that I drive my cars to that point very often but that made it more annoying, just as you got to the exciting part of the rev range you could really feel the PP engine give up. I've not driven my TCR as much as I'd have liked but on the rare occasion the revs have built up it has been very satisfying :smiley: It certainly overtakes quite smartly.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: C3 WDE on 03 July 2020, 19:00
Hi, I’m new to the forum

Currently in the process of selling my M240i and I’m looking to replace it with a 5dr GTI...

Welcome C3  :smiley:

Why would you change a 240i for a GTI out of interest?


Only reason is to reduce my monthly costs as I want to have something more practical as in 5 doors for if/when family comes...
Yes I could get a M135i and would happily do so however I would want the ZF8 box and of course options I like and to find the right M135i / M140i with what I like I would either be waiting too long or I have like be over the budget I’ e set myself which brought me back to VW as I loved my MK5 GTI and they are cheaper value wise as well as insurance and their great to sit in and drive and look at...
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: C3 WDE on 03 July 2020, 23:52
For those of you that have DSG... what paddles you using?
Quite like the look of the red paddles seen on ControlCustomsUK Instagram page... (will figure how to add image in)

 https://www.instagram.com/p/CCI4ucQsIlq/?igshid=uqlqlszik2qf (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCI4ucQsIlq/?igshid=uqlqlszik2qf)
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: C3 WDE on 09 July 2020, 10:01
Seen a car online im interested in, all the options etc but have asked when the DSG was serviced as I know this is important... They have come back and told me this hasn't been done yet and the vehicle is on 44k miles... Would this be normal as I was under the impression this was to be done at 40k? I appreciate each mile counts when it comes to something mechanical such as a DSG but if it was serviced before I potentially purchased it, would it be safe to say its good or would it be a case of AVOID AVOID AVOID?
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Watts on 09 July 2020, 10:26
Is the car within the 3 year warranty? When did it hit the 40k miles? VW are not penalising warranty claims where service work was unable to be carried out due to workshops being closed. If it is out of warranty then if it was to go bang then I think you would struggle to get them to cover it anyway but if it should've been serviced before the lockdown then that isn't going to help. I haven't seen much in the way of issues with the DSG so I wouldn't entirely discount the car, if it otherwise seems good and is what you want perhaps use that as a bit of a bargaining tool. But I would check that the other servicing has been done to schedule. Sounds like the previous owner didn't want to spend out for it just before selling...
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: SRGTD on 09 July 2020, 10:36
Is the car within the 3 year warranty? When did it hit the 40k miles? VW are not penalising warranty claims where service work was unable to be carried out due to workshops being closed. If it is out of warranty then if it was to go bang then I think you would struggle to get them to cover it anyway but if it should've been serviced before the lockdown then that isn't going to help. I haven't seen much in the way of issues with the DSG so I wouldn't entirely discount the car, if it otherwise seems good and is what you want perhaps use that as a bit of a bargaining tool. But I would check that the other servicing has been done to schedule. Sounds like the previous owner didn't want to spend out for it just before selling...

It might also be worth checking what tyres are on the car. If it’s got a set of cheap ‘ditchfinders’ fitted, then that could be a sign of the previous owner skimping on maintenance.
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: barrym381 on 09 July 2020, 10:59
Is the car within the 3 year warranty? When did it hit the 40k miles? VW are not penalising warranty claims where service work was unable to be carried out due to workshops being closed. If it is out of warranty then if it was to go bang then I think you would struggle to get them to cover it anyway but if it should've been serviced before the lockdown then that isn't going to help. I haven't seen much in the way of issues with the DSG so I wouldn't entirely discount the car, if it otherwise seems good and is what you want perhaps use that as a bit of a bargaining tool. But I would check that the other servicing has been done to schedule. Sounds like the previous owner didn't want to spend out for it just before selling...

It might also be worth checking what tyres are on the car. If it’s got a set of cheap ‘ditchfinders’ fitted, then that could be a sign of the previous owner skimping on maintenance.


Or an owner that doesn’t know the difference in tyres
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: Phil245 on 09 July 2020, 11:20
Or an owner that doesn’t know the difference in tyres

The price tends to be the giveaway clue.... :whistle:
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: barrym381 on 09 July 2020, 11:50
Or an owner that doesn’t know the difference in tyres

The price tends to be the giveaway clue.... :whistle:

Really try telling most owners that  :grin:
Title: Re: Questions / Advice / Info
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 July 2020, 12:30
Seen a car online im interested in, all the options etc but have asked when the DSG was serviced as I know this is important... They have come back and told me this hasn't been done yet and the vehicle is on 44k miles... Would this be normal as I was under the impression this was to be done at 40k? I appreciate each mile counts when it comes to something mechanical such as a DSG but if it was serviced before I potentially purchased it, would it be safe to say its good or would it be a case of AVOID AVOID AVOID?

Being 10% over the threshold isn't going to be hugely detrimental, but it should've been done before now. If I was interested in the car, i'd want it done at the dealer's cost before I picked up the car.