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Offline C3 WDE

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Questions / Advice / Info
« on: 02 July 2020, 00:39 »
Hi, I’m new to the forum

Currently in the process of selling my M240i and I’m looking to replace it with a 5dr GTI hopefully in the next week or so if all goes to plan.

Reason I’m looking towards a GTI again is I loved my MK5 I had and honestly never had many problems with it at the time in the three years I had it plus the newer MK7 15 reg onwards I’m looking at have all the modern facilities I would like...

I do have a few general questions

Gearbox
How many of you have opted for manual / DSG?
I’ve never driven DSG but everywhere I read it seems everyone has one these days and they seem pretty much faultless?...
Anyone experienced any issues?
I know the Manuals are commonly known for chocolate clutches depending on who has driven the car and how but I can’t help wanting to stick with manual as I dread the thought of a DSG going wrong in my ownership and having to shell out to fix / replace

Regardless of what I choose when I begin viewing cars to buy is there anything I should watch out for in terms of gear boxes? Any tests I should do when driving to ensure no issues exist already before purchasing?

I’ll be honest I’ve never had a clutch slip or had issues with clutches before on any of my cars so I don’t know if I could feel or pick up on one being faulty if I drive a car So any tips would be great...

Last one on choice of gear box... Why did you opt for DSG / Mqnual over the alternative and are you happy or would you change?

Options
As I haven’t looked at the Golfs since I had my MK5 I’m a little out of sync with what options are available on what models. I’m looking at buying at 15 reg or newer and I have seen cars listed with:

Heated Seats - Leather / tartan

Dynaudio - I know this is upgraded sound pack but haven’t seen many with this... is it honestly worth holding back until I find a car with this?

Performance Pack - I know so far this includes a electronic diff... is this on all PP models? Also includes larger brakes and small power increase. Now I know aesthetically the brakes look much nicer and I’m a fan of that but are they a must have for someone who let’s say doesn’t do track days?..I know this is subjective so just an idea on who has this on their GTI and if you didn’t have the bigger brakes, would you miss not having them?... to me the power difference is neither here or there.

DCC - Never has this on any of my cars and honestly I don’t think I need this as I’ve never had it so therefore don’t feel I’ll miss it if I didn’t have it plus it sounds like it’s something else to go wrong making a higher bill...

Infotainment - I’m getting lost when I look at this as most I’ve seen tend to have Nav which is nice to have when you need it however what’s the difference between what I can only presume is standard Nav and the one that has the bigger screen?
Also can anyone expand on the Apple car play etc and how to tell if a car has this or of its enabled and working as I think I’ve read cars may seem to have it but if it’s not coded or enabled you cannot use it? Any help to gain knowledge on the infotainment side of things would be great as I’m clueless so not sure what’s included and what can be problematic or how easy it is to retrofit things and how expensive this may be...

Wheels - I’ve seen the standard GTI wheels and the Santiago’s I believe their called? Are either prone to cracking or anything? I’m aware of the infamous white worm on the diamond cut finish...

Other than that... is there any other options I’ve missed or people would expand or recommend?


Cost
Another thing I’m thinking of is maintenance costs...
Standard engine service to one side as we all know what to roughly expect.. What’s the cost difference of replacing discs and pads for standard brakes in comparison the the PP brakes?
Does the PP diff require servicing and if so what cost?
DSG I am aware this needs doing every 38-40k? And of course I would not buy one that hasn’t been done
Any thing recommend to check or have replaced if dealer is willing to such as bushes of any sort?

I think that’s it for now...
Thank you for reading and look forward to hearing some feedback / answers

Offline Phil245

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« Reply #1 on: 02 July 2020, 07:41 »
There's a lot of questions there...!

I can answer a couple......

I chose the manual because I want to decide what gear the car is in.  Having the computer decide is not an advantage to me, and certainly not one I would pay for. Other people will obviously feel different. But I prefer to "drive" the car and make the decisions.  And the rest of our fleet being manual, it is more intuitive, for me !

The VAQ diff does require a service.  I believe its at 4 years and needs an oil change with dealers charging around a hundred quid. There are vids on you tube.

The PP is nice to have and may make the car more desirable when you sell it.

Will I ever use the bigger brakes to their full potential, or that extra 15hp, or indeed many of the other features of the car and it's performance...??

No. Never.  But on that basis I would have bought a 1 litre Corsa......!!

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Sadly sold, Octavia VRS245 Estate, Audi A3 1.5TFSI S Line Black Edition, Polo GTi 1.8, Audi TT Roadster, Golf Mk7 GTD etc.
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Offline Watts

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« Reply #2 on: 02 July 2020, 08:23 »
You will probably need to try the dsg before you decide, many love it. Personally I think it's good but with some drawbacks. It can be slow to respond, has too many settings imo and would've been smoother as a proper full auto. I also think it takes some of the fun out of driving, my old PP manual was often more exciting so given the choice my preference would be a manual. In 40k miles I had no clutch issues. On a positive note for the dsg, it is a very relaxing drive and if you like cruise control it works better with that. On the other hand though the stop/start system is much better with a manual, on the dsg it doesn't always cut in when it should then if the car in front moves an inch the engine starts even if you don't intend to move.

PP isn't a must have, more a very nice to have but for the GTI on the calipers alone it is well worth it! I would go for it if I were you.

Leather? Just bear in mind that not all of it actually is leather.... Plus the tartan is rather cheery.

Costs wise, on a MK7 the waterpump/thermostat housing is a very common failure and if it hasn't been done I'd have some funds set aside as chances are they will go and probably fairly soon. Batteries are expensive too. The turbos on early cars could be problematic but any dodgy ones would likely have been sorted by now.

If you can push it to a 16 plate you should get the later MIB2 with a slightly bigger screen. Also keyless was standard along with heated seats. On early 15 plates nav was an option too to bear in mind.
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Offline Jim_mk7.5

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« Reply #3 on: 02 July 2020, 09:07 »
Depends on what your budget will stretch to but I'd consider a facelift if I were you as you get a much fresher looking car and more standard kit including the LED headlights and digital dash plus the much bigger glass screen.
The facelift is from mid-2017 onwards and will be £18k for the 230 model although facelift 245 Performance models start later in 2017 on 67 plates and you'll need £20k for a car without many/any options.
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Offline barrym381

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« Reply #4 on: 02 July 2020, 10:38 »
Cost - my GTi is approaching 38k and has just been serviced. Including air con, it was around £480 and there was no mention of a DSG service at this mileage. Intermediary service is £179 I think, every 9k.

38k for a GTI  :grin:

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« Reply #5 on: 02 July 2020, 11:30 »
Cost - my GTi is approaching 38k and has just been serviced. Including air con, it was around £480 and there was no mention of a DSG service at this mileage. Intermediary service is £179 I think, every 9k.

38k for a GTI  :grin:

I think the 38k is the car’s mileage. The reference to cost relates to the servicing costs.
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« Reply #6 on: 02 July 2020, 11:38 »
Cost - my GTi is approaching 38k and has just been serviced. Including air con, it was around £480 and there was no mention of a DSG service at this mileage. Intermediary service is £179 I think, every 9k.

38k for a GTI  :grin:

I think the 38k is the car’s mileage. The reference to cost relates to the servicing costs.
I hope I’ve read it wrong  :grin:

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« Reply #7 on: 02 July 2020, 12:29 »
yes, 38k miles
Thank goodness for that I nearly swallowed my breakfast spoon reading that earlier  :grin:

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« Reply #8 on: 02 July 2020, 13:42 »
Also keyless was standard along with heated seats. On early 15 plates nav was an option too to bear in mind.

Is this correct? Keyless standard on 2016+? I thought it was 2019+?
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« Reply #9 on: 02 July 2020, 13:50 »
I've got a December 16 GTi pp 5 door and that's got keyless.
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