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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: rwleigh on 07 May 2018, 13:23
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Just been out for an hour to cool down in the GTI, averaged 42.5 MPG by taking it easy and sticking to the speed limits with the AC set to 20C. Not bad for a stage 1 tuned CS40... Now I'm going to clean the dust from the dash! :grin:
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Are you sure the map hasn't fooled the computer. It often does.
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Are you sure the map hasn't fooled the computer. It often does.
Yes, after checking it myself from fill to fill and calculating what it actually does...
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WTF I've not seen anywhere near 42 - even on my usual sedate commute it struggles to get much over 30...
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WTF I've not seen anywhere near 42 - even on my usual sedate commute it struggles to get much over 30...
Really! Mine does over 30 all the time. Even from a cold start doing a short round trip to the local supermarket and back (about 4 miles) I'll always get 30. Usually on a longer run depending on how I drive it will be in the mid 30's and as you saw yesterday I was just seeing what it could do and got up to 42. What's your tank range after a fill?
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WTF I've not seen anywhere near 42 - even on my usual sedate commute it struggles to get much over 30...
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Can't even imagine mine hitting such high numbers ever, I have to struggle for 28mpg in a normal drive.
That been said, a friend with a Cupra (same engine) was showing me 38-40mpg in his the other day, so I guess there is a way but his car was a manual stock Cupra using start/stop (i have it disabled) getting to 6th gear as soon as possible and barely putting his foot down. Guess it goes to show how diverse consumption can be and that there is maybe not much point in mpg rant (or praise) threads as conditions and driving style can have such a huge impact
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Fuel type also helps, supermarket fuels seem to give less MPG than a normal station, and high rated seems better too
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WTF I've not seen anywhere near 42 - even on my usual sedate commute it struggles to get much over 30...
Really! Mine does over 30 all the time. Even from a cold start doing a short round trip to the local supermarket and back (about 4 miles) I'll always get 30. Usually on a longer run depending on how I drive it will be in the mid 30's and as you saw yesterday I was just seeing what it could do and got up to 42. What's your tank range after a fill?
I normally fill up after around 300 miles with a range left on the DIS of around 30.
The bulk of my driving is a 40 mile commute E/W with a mix of rural, urban, queuing (with stop-start) but mainly cruising at 60 - 80 on dual/m-way. Mileage is 18,000 so the engine is well run in!
I'm starting to see more (slightly) over 30 average journeys now the weather is getting better, but certainly over winter it was more likely the high 20's.
I used to get slightly better MPG on the same commute with my supercharged 3.0 V6 S4 I owned before the CS (despite the EU tests suggesting the reverse).
I think the gearing doesn't help as most of my driving is at M-way cruise speeds and rpm is around 3000 rpm in 6th - it needs a 7th for cruising!
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My Clubsport tends to mostly do shortish runs in light traffic and averages around high twenties.
A couple of weeks ago I did some long distance work including a fair bit of motorway and fast A road driving in light traffic which netted the grand improvement of absolutely zilch.
The car was still recording high 20's.
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My Clubsport tends to mostly do shortish runs in light traffic and averages around high twenties.
A couple of weeks ago I did some long distance work including a fair bit of motorway and fast A road driving in light traffic which netted the grand improvement of absolutely zilch.
The car was still recording high 20's.
I'd have to try deliberately to keep mine down in the 20's on any run, it must be the remap making it more efficient. My tank range is always in the region of 400, bit less in the winter but over 400 this time of year...
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My Clubsport tends to mostly do shortish runs in light traffic and averages around high twenties.
A couple of weeks ago I did some long distance work including a fair bit of motorway and fast A road driving in light traffic which netted the grand improvement of absolutely zilch.
The car was still recording high 20's.
I'd have to try deliberately to keep mine down in the 20's on any run, it must be the remap making it more efficient. My tank range is always in the region of 400, bit less in the winter but over 400 this time of year...
Strange... my remap seems to be having the opposite effect :grin: But then again I am taking any chance i find to open the throttle (within reason). I have only ever put 98 in it but I think the pedalbox (that me and Exonian share) might be a bit to blame...
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Pedalbox will have no effect what so ever on fuel economy.
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Pedalbox will have no effect what so ever on fuel economy.
If you're using more throttle more often how can it not affect fuel economy?
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Pedalbox will have no effect what so ever on fuel economy.
In theory not, but you tend to use the throttle a lot more with it fitted, partly because it’s hard not to and partly because it’s much nicer to :grin:
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Pedalbox will have no effect what so ever on fuel economy.
In theory not, but you tend to use the throttle a lot more with it fitted, partly because it’s hard not to and partly because it’s much nicer to :grin:
Exactly. I guess in theory you could probably use less pedal compared to stock and end up asking for the same throttle and having similar acceleration and fuel economy as before but what would be the point in that? We all know it's not happening and as far as I'm concerned I do squeeze the pedal a bit more often whenever I get the chance to get that pleasant blast forwards and i happily pay the price for that.
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Kind of makes the magic pedal box a bit pointless. Just my opinion of course.
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Kind of makes the magic pedal box a bit pointless. Just my opinion of course.
:laugh: :laugh: :wink:
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Kind of makes the magic pedal box a bit pointless. Just my opinion of course.
Lol.. why? You want to open the throttle earlier than the ECU wants and you get just that. The fact that it's a nice feeling that becomes addictive and you tend to get carried away is just a side effect that has to do more with your self control, rather than the box's efficiency to deliver...
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Strange... my remap seems to be having the opposite effect :grin: But then again I am taking any chance i find to open the throttle (within reason). I have only ever put 98 in it but I think the pedalbox (that me and Exonian share) might be a bit to blame...
What remap do you have that needs the pedal box as well?
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Strange... my remap seems to be having the opposite effect :grin: But then again I am taking any chance i find to open the throttle (within reason). I have only ever put 98 in it but I think the pedalbox (that me and Exonian share) might be a bit to blame...
What remap do you have that needs the pedal box as well?
It's from a Swedish tuner but it does not really matter. An ECU remap does not mean you will get the pedalbox effect in throttle response, ECU and throttle maps are two different things and it is up to the tuner how much he will modify the throttle, some change it more some less. Mine was slightly improved after the remap but there is still a significant effect from the pedalbox, I can see it when I occasionally set the pedalbox to stock mode so it has stayed on.
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I've never felt the need for a pedalbox with my REVO stage 1. Drives great as it is.
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I've never felt the need for a pedalbox with my REVO stage 1. Drives great as it is.
First of all I'm glad that you like it, saves you any extra trouble. I don't have solid knowledge on how the Revo map changes the throttle response so I guess it could be better than other tunes?
Still, I offered to give my box to two people that swore to me their throttle seemed fine and after the test drive (in their cars not mine) they both said they liked it and that it did make a difference, one was a stock Cupra, one a remapped R.
I've driven mapped VAG cars from various tuners over the years and not a single one of them had as sharp a response as you get with the pedalbox. In my last car, I had asked for this from my tuner and since it was a custom tune and the tuner was open to requests for fine adjustments he did improve it, but only after my specific request.