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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: phope on 17 July 2017, 21:30
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Really interesting article in the print edition of Autocar that came out last Wednesday - a group test of several of Volkswagen UK's GTI collection
You'll need to buy the mag for the full feature - it's not on their website
They test the Mk1, Mk2, Mk5 and Mk7 against each other, having discounted the Mk3 and Mk4 as not really being worthy of the badge, and the Mk6 and not being different enough from the Mk5
...we had few qualms about skipping versions three and four. Six was also left in the lorry because we felt sufficiently close to five...
The Mk7 GTI gets a really good write up, although not the overall winner
..the most coherent re-imagining of the original GTI philosophy there has been in these past four decades...the Mk7 does it to a world class standard...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/magazine
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Anyway, part of the reason for my ramble is that I genuinely think that VW UK are missing a trick with not offering an option to have classic GTI colours on the Mk7 at extra cost, or make a strictly limited run of cars with classic colours and interior trims as part of a "GTI Legends series"
The Oak Green picture I posted the other day is a good example of what they could do with a little imagination
Discuss...
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I don't like green cars normally but would buy that GTi as it stands out against the current poor colour range.
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and which did they vote the best?
Really interesting article in the print edition of Autocar that came out last Wednesday - a group test of several of Volkswagen UK's GTI collection
You'll need to buy the mag for the full feature - it's not on their website
They test the Mk1, Mk2, Mk5 and Mk7 against each other, having discounted the Mk3 and Mk4 as not really being worthy of the badge, and the Mk6 and not being different enough from the Mk5
...we had few qualms about skipping versions three and four. Six was also left in the lorry because we felt sufficiently close to five...
The Mk7 GTI gets a really good write up, although not the overall winner
..the most coherent re-imagining of the original GTI philosophy there has been in these past four decades...the Mk7 does it to a world class standard...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/magazine
(https://picload.org/image/rppiowwa/autocar.png)
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Oak green lovely colour.
I owned a new Lhasa Green Mk1 GTI with multi spoke alloys, must find some pics,gorgeous colour, Helios blue another nice colour.
Amazing how the cars have advanced yet choice of colours remain stagnent.
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Never liked Oak Green.
I have both feet firmly in the Atlas Grey camp.
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Me neither, I've never liked oak green, although under the VW showroom lights it looks better that it really is. For me the mk2 looked great in capri green, bright blue and the 16v colour monza blue. :cool:
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Loved the Oak Green in the Mk2, and if it was available would seriously consider buying one. There is a Bottle Green ( lighter shade ) available for the Beetle but its not shown on the configurator. I suspect it won't be long before it's available for the Golf as its already available I suspect under a different name for an Audi.
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What CBH100 really means is that the best one among them is the R :grin:
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Autocar reckoned that of the cars they tested, a well sorted Mk5 is the overall winner if you were buying today
...whereas a brand new Golf GTI like this costs £27,950, a clean low-mileage Mk5 can be yours for around £5000. That's more than 80% of the ability of the best front drive hatch in the world for less than 20% of the money...
On the question of the R, the writer is obviously a GTI fan :grin:
...Remember too that Volkswagen has been making Golfs go faster than the GTI for years. Remember the Golf G60, the Golf Limited, the Golf Rallye, the Golf VR6 and the Golf R32? They all came and went, the GTI alone has endured.
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The MK5 GTI is an awesome car and so much potential to play with.
On track its very smooth and balanced, can achieve good pace without ringing its neck.
Can't wait to get an MLP one built and have a proper play.
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Never liked dark metallic green of any sorts. I had a Ford Escort in it and even someone like me who cares little about a dirty car thought that it became an utter mess of muck and scratches in 5 minutes.
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What CBH100 really means is that the best one among them is the R :grin:
It's the only way to get Lapis mate :wink:
What came top Mk1 1800 with modified brakes!
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It's the only way to get Lapis mate :wink:
Lapis? Is that similar to herpes? Wouldn't want to get that one :sad:
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Oak green really is a marmite colour for the Mk2. I would have never considered it as a GTI colour when they were new, but now I think it's a colour that really works well (which is why I have one) I think it fits with the Golfs conservative styling.
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On the subject of colour and green. When I was looking for a mk1 in 1990 lhasa green was the colour I wanted. When originally launched the mk1 GTI was only available in two colours. Diamond silver and mars red. It would have being nice if VW had offered them on a new special edition.
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A friend of mine has Mars Red Type 19, an immaculate road car he converted into a race car (and took the front corner off promptly in its 2nd meeting). I'd not seen the colour in the flesh before and freshly sprayed it looks amazing.
He thought the same and painted all his companies coaches in Mars Red. He's sick of it now.
If you live in Norfolk and think you have seen a VW Mars Red coach around the coast you have.
Back to the point: I agree with the previous post and think the Edition 40 would have looked amazing in either colour.
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I think emotion comes into this but for me
I think the Mk1 has aged so well and a Helios Blue Campaign for my is the holly grail on that
On the Mk2 whilst not my favourite colour a 16v Oak Green three door defines that model as it should not work but just is such a classy combination, however, I have a soft spot for a monza blue 16v small bumper model or a G60 Edition 1 in aubergine
I had a Mk3 GTI in dragon green as a company car which I ran for about 5 years (as I refused to have a Toyota) when I passed my professional exams, not the best but way better than the bubble style Rover 216Sli (which it outlived as the fleet of these grenades engines due to the head gaskets)
Mk5/6 for me is the Ed30/Pirelli/Ed35, my biggest VW car regret was not buying a three door graphite blue Pirelli and going for a Scirocco (wife ordered a black one), the 35 is a bit unloved but was a superb car and I wished i had kept it for another year
I remember boring a Mk7 GTI for a weekend and drove it back to back with the Mk6 and dynamically it just gave so much more feedback than the 5/6 which one me over. Pick of that bunch would be a CS 3 door in white or red on 19s (my second car regret) rather than the CCSpeculator edition
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I think its easy to get sentimental about old cars and think "classic".
Sure, magazines might talk about them like this and maybe if you are someone who can afford to collect cars and keep them warm, dry and polished ready for showing a couple of times a year...
But if you are talking about running a car as transport... old cars are bother. Also in terms of driving normally on the road, they very quickly age compared to modern cars which are quiet, economical and quite frankly, faster.
As much as my daughter keeps trying to persuade me to buy a VW Camper for her, I resist because I've had younger years of trying to run old cars as a daily... its not pleasant. If I had a tenner for every hour I spent waiting for the AA, I'd be a rich old man.
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I think its easy to get sentimental about old cars and think "classic".
Same with old girl friends!!
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I think its easy to get sentimental about old cars and think "classic".
Same with old girl friends!!
Or wives.
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I think its easy to get sentimental about old cars and think "classic".
Same with old girl friends!!
Or wives.
Have you got an old wife?
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Problem with the mk2s is finding one that has not suffered at the hands of someone who ruined it in the past.
There is a mk2 in oak green on the classifieds at the moment which I was going to look at, add neglected to point off it was once a total write off, I then read the MOT history and a few things caught my attention and the same advisories for 3 years just to me showed it had not had much love.
Trouble is everyone at the moment thinks because its old its a classic and worth a fortune, which is not the case
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I think emotion comes into this but for me
I had a Mk3 GTI in dragon green as a company car which I ran for about 5 years (as I refused to have a Toyota) when I passed my professional exams, not the best but way better than the bubble style Rover 216Sli (which it outlived as the fleet of these grenades engines due to the head gaskets)
I can remember the day, back in 1999 when me and my best mate picked up his Dragon Green VR6 3dr, think it was about a year old (98 R reg) from a dealer in Manchester, looked stunning in that colour and had some nice options such as Recaro fabric seats and Climatronic. He lost a fortune on that car but bet it would have gone back up in value now. The noise from the VR6 with an induction kit was probably one of the best I've heard. And only 170bhp, doesn't sound much now.
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Have you got an old wife?
Check my ebay history.
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I missed this article and went to buy it on wednesday but the new magazine had come out sadly. So not sure what it said.
I own 4 classics and 3 modern cars. Its the modern cars that cause me more headacres with niggles and issues especially electric, electronic issues. It does all depend greatly on the make and models and especially the history though and most my classics ive owned for decades.
Imo the VW camper is one of the most over rated, over priced, unrefined, underpowered, terrible driving experiences ive ever had the displeasure to have to experience why anyone in their right mind would ever want one I will never understand.
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For a brief period I had a 1302s Beetle bought at auction and in ex con, but was the worst vehicle I have ever owned by far, my 1st a 61 mini van was a joy and did more than one could expect from such modesty. And it predated that beetle by nearly a decade. The Camper equally awful,how did VW survive as a brand until the Golf, we'll never really know.
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The 1302 and 1302s were terrible. They tried to improve the 1300 which was the best version and it was a fail. The 1500 and 1600 engines were a POS and the rest of the improvements on paper look good but aren't. Mind you they also made some stinking golfs too.
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But enough good golfs to save their bacon!
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Article now online :smiley:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/volkswagen-golf-gti-which-generation-beats-them-all
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So basically a mk5 wins on price, because you can buy a 100k mile example for £5k, despite;
"the Mk7 is easily the better car"
There is likely to be more maintenance with a mk5, cambelt, waterpump, cam follower and rust!
I do like the mk5, one real advantage is it lets you play more when things get out of hand compared to the mk7, not something you would ever do on Uk roads anyway!
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So basically a mk5 wins on price, because you can buy a 100k mile example for £5k, despite;
"the Mk7 is easily the better car"
There is likely to be more maintenance with a mk5, cambelt, waterpump, cam follower and rust!
I do like the mk5, one real advantage is it lets you play more when things get out of hand compared to the mk7, not something you would ever do on Uk roads anyway!
If you've already got a mk5 GTI and have maintained it well then you're on to a winner but buying a mk5 now will involve spending quite a substantial sum if you want a really mint car. Buying the car itself isn't a huge problem as there's a good supply of them in decent well looked after condition thankfully as many were bought by enthusiasts who looked after them properly. But these things are getting old now and bits are wearing out.
I've had a fair bit of recent experience of this as a workmate of mine was on the hunt for one for a good while and eventually bought a tidy low mileage and low owner FSH car for around £4k. That was less than 12 months ago and he's already sunk well over £2k into it just doing routine fixes of things that have worn out and there's at least a good £1k still 'could do with doing'.
Then you could turn to the issue of cosmetics as there are bound to be chips, scrapes and wheels that need refurbishing or replacing and many have air-con that no longer functions properly.
I can't remember everything he's had to do to it but on top of general things you'd expect for a car of that age it needed lots of bushes, a new sump as the drain hole gets worn, there was fuel in the oil, various bits to do inside the cylinder head on top of the usual cam belt and water pump change... the list went on and on and for months the car was in having work done once a month when payday came.
It's still cheaper than the depreciation on a newer car I'd guess and it goes really well now with a REVO stage 1 and Goodyears on all four corners. The latter additions are on top of the £2k plus maintenance bill as he wanted the car in good health before the stage 1 was added. The REVO agent said there is always much concern when people come in to ask for remaps and will happily shell out £500 plus on that but won't maintain their cars properly and worse still they won't use decent fuel as it's "too expensive".
Caveat Emptor.
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i'm selling my 06 mk5 in a couple of months, full sh but needs cambelt doing and a few little bits and only has 61k miles, anyone know what it would be worth... i'd keep her but i need a car with auto high beam :(
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I agree with Exonian, good clean MK5's are hard to find!
When I sold my one back in March, the buyer traveled 210 miles from one end of the country to the other, having spent months looking in his local area.
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So basically a mk5 wins on price, because you can buy a 100k mile example for £5k, despite;
"the Mk7 is easily the better car"
Simply because this is a journalist trying to write an attention grabbing article.
You don't write a piece like this and come to the obvious conclusion.
As you all rightly said though, a journalist getting to play with a nice example for a few hours is different to actually trying to find one, maintain it and live with it.
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Some good points made above.
The article states "Happily, all are owned by Volkswagen and maintained irrespective of cost so can be counted upon to be truly representative of how these cars ought to be."
But perhaps a bit of a contradiction at the end saying a clean low mileage one will be £5,000. Not sure if such cars would be comparable to the VW heritage car.
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So basically a mk5 wins on price, because you can buy a 100k mile example for £5k, despite;
"the Mk7 is easily the better car"
There is likely to be more maintenance with a mk5, cambelt, waterpump, cam follower and rust!
I do like the mk5, one real advantage is it lets you play more when things get out of hand compared to the mk7, not something you would ever do on Uk roads anyway!
If you've already got a mk5 GTI and have maintained it well then you're on to a winner but buying a mk5 now will involve spending quite a substantial sum if you want a really mint car. Buying the car itself isn't a huge problem as there's a good supply of them in decent well looked after condition thankfully as many were bought by enthusiasts who looked after them properly. But these things are getting old now and bits are wearing out.
I've had a fair bit of recent experience of this as a workmate of mine was on the hunt for one for a good while and eventually bought a tidy low mileage and low owner FSH car for around £4k. That was less than 12 months ago and he's already sunk well over £2k into it just doing routine fixes of things that have worn out and there's at least a good £1k still 'could do with doing'.
Then you could turn to the issue of cosmetics as there are bound to be chips, scrapes and wheels that need refurbishing or replacing and many have air-con that no longer functions properly.
I can't remember everything he's had to do to it but on top of general things you'd expect for a car of that age it needed lots of bushes, a new sump as the drain hole gets worn, there was fuel in the oil, various bits to do inside the cylinder head on top of the usual cam belt and water pump change... the list went on and on and for months the car was in having work done once a month when payday came.
It's still cheaper than the depreciation on a newer car I'd guess and it goes really well now with a REVO stage 1 and Goodyears on all four corners. The latter additions are on top of the £2k plus maintenance bill as he wanted the car in good health before the stage 1 was added. The REVO agent said there is always much concern when people come in to ask for remaps and will happily shell out £500 plus on that but won't maintain their cars properly and worse still they won't use decent fuel as it's "too expensive".
Caveat Emptor.
Sounds more like he bought a shed to me.
ive got a 2005 leon which has been in the family since new. Yes ive done some work to it. A CV joint, bottom arms(bushes) track rod ends and a wheel barring in the past 6 years ive had it. But the parts are cheap, a total cost of less than £100 so far. To have this as a backup car and one i use in the winters, tips and dirty jobs costs me less than £500 a year inc insurance, tax, mot etc, depreciation has being next to nothing In my ownership. Yet people will run new cars and have issues as can often be seen on this site and pay £2-300 a month.
I know a couple friends of friends who have bought mk5 R32s in the past 6 months who have had no issues but I know they did their homework first and checked the cars for common issues first including what you listed.
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Article now online :smiley:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/volkswagen-golf-gti-which-generation-beats-them-all
Thanks for that :smiley:
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Article now online :smiley:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/volkswagen-golf-gti-which-generation-beats-them-all
Aye,thanks for posting.Interesting article indeed. :smiley:
I've always thought a MK5 in candy white,3 door with 18" Monzas just looks fantastic. :cool:
I've read a bit about the MK5's suffering from rust- especially in the front wings.Kind of puts me off a bit. :sad:
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump in & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
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Sounds more like he bought a shed to me.
ive got a 2005 leon which has been in the family since new. Yes ive done some work to it. A CV joint, bottom arms(bushes) track rod ends and a wheel barring in the past 6 years ive had it. But the parts are cheap, a total cost of less than £100 so far. To have this as a backup car and one i use in the winters, tips and dirty jobs costs me less than £500 a year inc insurance, tax, mot etc, depreciation has being next to nothing In my ownership. Yet people will run new cars and have issues as can often be seen on this site and pay £2-300 a month.
I know a couple friends of friends who have bought mk5 R32s in the past 6 months who have had no issues but I know they did their homework first and checked the cars for common issues first including what you listed.
The car is actually quite a tidy original one but unfortunately they're getting quite old now and if you want to get them back into mint condition then unless you've been lucky enough to find one with an enthusiast owner who has spent far more than regular maintenance on it then you're looking at spending a good few quid.
This particular example has all its original paint, no rusty wings and a decent history but until you've got the thing up on a ramp you can't be sure everything underneath is like new. A lot of the money, in fact most of the money has gone on labour charges using the top local indie guy so we're talking not far off VW dealer money and using all original VW parts. It soon mounts up.i'm selling my 06 mk5 in a couple of months, full sh but needs cambelt doing and a few little bits and only has 61k miles, anyone know what it would be worth... i'd keep her but i need a car with auto high beam :(
Spending £30k to get auto high beam could be deemed a bit excessive! :laugh:
Good mk5's still have a decent following and don't hang about in the classifieds long. Depending on what else needs doing to the car you've got to be looking at between £4k and £6k I'd think.
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Sounds more like he bought a shed to me.
ive got a 2005 leon which has been in the family since new. Yes ive done some work to it. A CV joint, bottom arms(bushes) track rod ends and a wheel barring in the past 6 years ive had it. But the parts are cheap, a total cost of less than £100 so far. To have this as a backup car and one i use in the winters, tips and dirty jobs costs me less than £500 a year inc insurance, tax, mot etc, depreciation has being next to nothing In my ownership. Yet people will run new cars and have issues as can often be seen on this site and pay £2-300 a month.
I know a couple friends of friends who have bought mk5 R32s in the past 6 months who have had no issues but I know they did their homework first and checked the cars for common issues first including what you listed.
The car is actually quite a tidy original one but unfortunately they're getting quite old now and if you want to get them back into mint condition then unless you've been lucky enough to find one with an enthusiast owner who has spent far more than regular maintenance on it then you're looking at spending a good few quid.
This particular example has all its original paint, no rusty wings and a decent history but until you've got the thing up on a ramp you can't be sure everything underneath is like new. A lot of the money, in fact most of the money has gone on labour charges using the top local indie guy so we're talking not far off VW dealer money and using all original VW parts. It soon mounts up.i'm selling my 06 mk5 in a couple of months, full sh but needs cambelt doing and a few little bits and only has 61k miles, anyone know what it would be worth... i'd keep her but i need a car with auto high beam :(
Spending £30k to get auto high beam could be deemed a bit excessive! :laugh:
Good mk5's still have a decent following and don't hang about in the classifieds long. Depending on what else needs doing to the car you've got to be looking at between £4k and £6k I'd think.
yeah it's a lot but i'm a disabled driver so needs a must and all that. 4-6k sounds great thanks. we buy any car offered 5.3k so i'd probably take that as its less hassle... just waiting on vw to build it now :)
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?
Would think around 10 years ago, and I liked Hondas (Engines) had several CRX V-tech etc. Think I must have had a Clio 172 Cup at the time which was a great little car, terrific handling and not to bad a ride.
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yeah it's a lot but i'm a disabled driver so needs a must and all that. 4-6k sounds great thanks. we buy any car offered 5.3k so i'd probably take that as its less hassle... just waiting on vw to build it now :)
Ahh, gotcha.
£5.3k hassle free would be a good route to follow so long as they don't start reducing the price quotes picking at minor faults which they have a reputation for. That perhaps varies from agent to agent but be wary of it.
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?
Would think around 10 years ago, and I liked Hondas (Engines) had several CRX V-tech etc. Think I must have had a Clio 172 Cup at the time which was a great little car, terrific handling and not to bad a ride.
The EP3 was and still is a great car, friend of mine had one when I had my Mk5 GTi and we swapped cars for two weeks and getting back into the GTi again showed how much it was behind the Type R dynamically. I wasn't a huge fan of the interior of the Mk5 either.
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One of my biggest regrets in life is that in 2006, I decided to buy a new car, and swayed by the trend for buying diesels, I opted for an Audi A3 170 TDi.
It was a great car in all fairness but why I didn't get a Mk5 GTI is something that pisses me off to this day :sad:
Thankfully I'm now in a Mk7 GTI :smiley: but what a wasted opportunity!!
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?
Would think around 10 years ago, and I liked Hondas (Engines) had several CRX V-tech etc. Think I must have had a Clio 172 Cup at the time which was a great little car, terrific handling and not to bad a ride.
The EP3 was and still is a great car, friend of mine had one when I had my Mk5 GTi and we swapped cars for two weeks and getting back into the GTi again showed how much it was behind the Type R dynamically. I wasn't a huge fan of the interior of the Mk5 either.
You can't be serious,john McEnroe. You must have a teen, as that's the only explanation.
I would have loved it but not v a MkV GTI DSG DSG DSG? In any era.
A one trick pony.
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As someone said above its a journalist trying to get the sensational outcome.
I'm currently waiting for my facelift GTi to replace my 3 year old GTD. Am I likely to rethink my purchase of a brand new car with all the reliability, toys and prestige that brings to buy a 10 year old car they may need to be off the road regularly for repairs, quite simply no !!!
And I don't think anyone else is about to make a different decision to mine!
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
Of course not, I don't think that was the objective of the article, though haven't read it.
Truth is the MkV was a revelation after the MkIV and against any opposition, it has merely evolved since.
Having owned all models, I don't see many other 2005 cars that you could jump & drive in and not feel dated. It delivered it every area, performance, ride, the fabulous DSG box, brakes and yes build quality above todays VW's.
Civic Type R, you don't need a dsg when you got a gear change like that.
Impossible ride, dreadful, one dimensional just like the latest model.
You've drove them then, when was the last time you drove an EP3?
Would think around 10 years ago, and I liked Hondas (Engines) had several CRX V-tech etc. Think I must have had a Clio 172 Cup at the time which was a great little car, terrific handling and not to bad a ride.
The EP3 was and still is a great car, friend of mine had one when I had my Mk5 GTi and we swapped cars for two weeks and getting back into the GTi again showed how much it was behind the Type R dynamically. I wasn't a huge fan of the interior of the Mk5 either.
You can't be serious,john McEnroe. You must have a teen, as that's the only explanation.
I would have loved it but not v a MkV GTI DSG DSG DSG? In any era.
A one trick pony.
Must be my age(mid 40's) but I have no idea what you mean.