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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Skye on 07 April 2017, 18:11

Title: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Skye on 07 April 2017, 18:11
Hi, just seen a MK 7.5 GTD? (Going the other way) in white silver. Or was it a Club Sport? No it had silver rather than red in the lights and grill.
Any way it looked superb. The lower part of the face lift gives it more presence. It seemed wider. Seen on Whitley Bay sea front.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: p3asa on 07 April 2017, 21:54
Likewise but I seen a standard TSI 7.5 Golf.

Seen it coming from the rear and couldn't make out what car it was in the rear view mirror as it had terrible DRLs. It was like a Halfords add on.
They really let the standard model down.

Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Daz Auto on 07 April 2017, 22:24
Had a white Mk7.5 GTD for a test drive today. :cool:

Does that count?

Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: SRGTD on 07 April 2017, 22:37
Had a white Mk7.5 GTD for a test drive today. :cool:

Does that count?

No, not unless you tell is what you thought of it.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Daz Auto on 07 April 2017, 23:05
No, not unless you tell is what you thought of it.
The front headlights look fantastic in the flesh. They flow better and give the front of the car a sportier look. The white paint contrasts really well with the black grill and new front fins. The front badge is 2D, but it really does look 3D.

I was not sure about the sweeping indicators, but having seen them, think they are really cool. The car does not look much different from the rear to me. Which is a good thing. I always did like the back of the Mk7.

Inside I really like the carbon/honeycomb trim. However, there is a lot of glossy piano black trim around the center display screen = finger print magnet.

Is the rear view mirror new? It had no surround.

The Active Info Display is growing on me. I'm still not impressed with the resolution or the graphics. However, I can see the advantages of having the satnav screen displayed there.

Obviously, it was the same to drive as the last Mk7.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: JoeGTI on 07 April 2017, 23:32
The frameless rear view mirror was introduced around the middle of last year.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: SRGTD on 07 April 2017, 23:39
Thanks Daz.

I too like the LED headlights, but I think I prefer the rear LED light clusters on the pre-facelift GTI/GTD/R as I'm not a fan of the sweeping indicators.

I've got piano black trim in my car and I don't have too much of a problem with finger prints, but it is a dust magnet, and you have to be careful cleaning it so You don't end up with swirls.

I think the frameless rear view mirror was introduced some time last year, so the later pre-facelift Golfs have it.

Not a fan of the AID and if I was thinking of getting a new performance Golf, I'd seriously consider going for the conventional dials, but I'd need to see the AID 'in the flesh' to make an informed decision. I think that when the time comes to sell, prospective 2nd owners might expect to get the Active Info Display, so not having it could be a disadvantage.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: p3asa on 08 April 2017, 00:19
...... I think that when the time comes to sell, prospective 2nd owners might expect to get the Active Info Display, so not having it could be a disadvantage.


You took the words right out my mouth.
Trading in obviously wouldn't be a problem but prospective 2nd hand buyers would probably expect it and might actually think there is something dodgy going on without it  :shocked:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Skye on 08 April 2017, 01:45
The trouble I had was trying to identify it. Was it the mark 7.5 or Club Sport. The silver in the grill gave it away but if it were a GTI I am not so sure I could. Spec some 19 inch rims and the sun roof (black) well you get the idea.
Club sport drivers will say it's all about the performance, handling and sound but there must be a niggle, itch or just plain p*****d off that the face lifted golf looks very much the same. Especially with a bit of vinyl. Some one had to say it!

http://golfgti.co.uk/images/page_images/mk7_2017_updates/7.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/k77nrs/VWCSS%204_zpsu4zwkonv.jpg

Thanks for letting me borrow the photos.
I would still go for the Club Sport and put up with the explaining "it's not a GTI, it looks nothing like one, it's a Club Sport"
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Talk-torque on 08 April 2017, 07:16
Going on the things that are "adjustable" with VCDS, I reckon it will be possible to change the sweeping rear indicators to flashing. Guessing there might even be other possible settings.

I quite like them - just a bit of harmless bling.  :cool:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: drisser on 08 April 2017, 07:40
My only gripe is that they offer the brescias on the 7.5 and they have styled it a bit more like the clubsport but I don't think it bothers me..  I don't like the new std GTi wheels much prefer the Austins personally but otherwise quite like the new styling.

I have heard these comments about AID and if it looks slightly low res now imagine in 3 years ?!  Much prefer standard dials to be honest.  Sweeping indicators no thanks, absolutely hate them.

There are of course a couple of giveaways on the Cs - the clubsport logo and in mine at least, the clubsport seats  :cool:

If they offered these seats as an option on the 7.5 I would have been very annoyed !
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: kalimon on 08 April 2017, 08:50
I have a number of issues with the new GTI and I've mentioned these to my wife as she is looking to order one for  September delivery. 
The main issue is the standard Parker 18'' alloys. These are really ugly wheels in my opinion and it seems as if VW are trying to claw some money back by offering such a sh!t standard wheel and almost forcing customers to opt for the optional 19''wheels.
I'm also not a fan of the giant glossy  black centre console/ dust magnet. This will be a mass of swirls within a month unless you literally just blow it clean.
I did like the significantly larger exhaust tips though.
I can't comment on the digital display because the car I sat in wasn't switched on but it looks a bit rubbish when the engines off : )
My wife will not care about any of this so I'll have one on my drive come September no doubt.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Paul70 on 08 April 2017, 09:45
Think I saw the same car yesterday going north on the A1 passed the angel of the north - really liked the colour in the flesh.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Skye on 08 April 2017, 16:58
I agree the white silver is stunning. If the government hadn't changed salary sacrifice a CS or a 7.5 GTI would be on order. Now it's hybrid  :sick:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Briggsy on 08 April 2017, 17:19
Good job we don't all like the same thing or it'd be a boring world.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: fredgroves on 09 April 2017, 06:10
Sweepy indicators I absolutely love. I'd only had my GTD a few months when Audi introduced those. I've never had such a rush of new car envy ever! I noticed Ford Mondeos have them on the front now too.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 09 April 2017, 10:08
Sweepy indicators I absolutely love. I'd only had my GTD a few months when Audi introduced those. I've never had such a rush of new car envy ever! I noticed Ford Mondeos have them on the front now too.

Peugeot has had them for years on the 308 GT too.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: phope on 09 April 2017, 10:24
I saw them on a 17 plate DAF truck as well the other day - sweepy indicator peak already!
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 09 April 2017, 10:56
I saw them on a 17 plate DAF truck as well the other day - sweepy indicator peak already!

I'm wondering how long before Audi change them. Bit like when Audi started individual leds in a row as drl's and everyone copied them and they then moved to a solid lines.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: drisser on 09 April 2017, 12:33
Never has there been such as waste of the R&D budget as someone saying the world really needs sweeping indicators !!   :rolleyes:

Audi R8 yes they looked cool years ago.

There is one good thing though, many more audi drivers are indicating before overtaking just to show if this proud feature, thereby improving road safety in high audi concentration cities  :grin:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: kalimon on 09 April 2017, 13:26
They do nothing for me.... completly pointless. 
They look like they have just developed a fault but I suppose we're stuck with them now :sad:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Briggsy on 09 April 2017, 16:00
They're a damn sight easier to see compared to some rear indicators which are lost within the rest of the lights.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: gazmondo35 on 09 April 2017, 17:40
Popped in to Lancaster vw in Milton Keynes today ,they now have a golf r demo in silver white ,very nice looking but not feeling those Spielberg alloys .

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag318/Garry_Mcdonnell/8172EDFB-4FB8-4649-B901-EE43823FAEFF_zpsrmlia1bu.jpg)


(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag318/Garry_Mcdonnell/4A411BEF-AF87-4900-B43F-6B03B5171E5E_zpsz59fr8jy.jpg)


Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: greencode on 09 April 2017, 21:03
Sweepy indicators I absolutely love. I'd only had my GTD a few months when Audi introduced those. I've never had such a rush of new car envy ever! I noticed Ford Mondeos have them on the front now too.

I'm surprised sweeping indicators are allowed for safety reasons. I find them much trickier to see than a flashing indicator and actually think they look a bit knaf.

but not feeling those Spielberg alloys.

Totally agree. Personally love the Cadiz alloys and good to see that's still the standard alloy.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 09 April 2017, 21:52
Sweepy indicators I absolutely love. I'd only had my GTD a few months when Audi introduced those. I've never had such a rush of new car envy ever! I noticed Ford Mondeos have them on the front now too.

I'm surprised sweeping indicators are allowed for safety reasons. I find them much trickier to see than a flashing indicator and actually think they look a bit knaf.

but not feeling those Spielberg alloys.

Totally agree. Personally love the Cadiz alloys and good to see that's still the standard alloy.

If you can't see sweeping or dynamic indicators the lenght they are on VW and Audi then it's time to get your eyes checked and seriously I mean that.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: greencode on 09 April 2017, 22:16
Sweepy indicators I absolutely love. I'd only had my GTD a few months when Audi introduced those. I've never had such a rush of new car envy ever! I noticed Ford Mondeos have them on the front now too.

I'm surprised sweeping indicators are allowed for safety reasons. I find them much trickier to see than a flashing indicator and actually think they look a bit knaf.

but not feeling those Spielberg alloys.

Totally agree. Personally love the Cadiz alloys and good to see that's still the standard alloy.

If you can't see sweeping or dynamic indicators the lenght they are on VW and Audi then it's time to get your eyes checked and seriously I mean that.

I'm not saying I can't see them!! I'm saying they are "tricker to see". BTW, I have perfect 20/20 vision!
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: drisser on 09 April 2017, 22:43
That silver white R looks awful IMO.

Looks just like a tdi R line..  Wheels are shocking.  I think VW have clearly with the gti and R given them some awful wheel options hoping people will upgrade.

vAG have list  the plot lately the wheels on the TTRS are also awful.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Daz Auto on 09 April 2017, 22:46
I'm not saying I can't see them!! I'm saying they are "tricker to see". BTW, I have perfect 20/20 vision!
I don't understand how they would be less visible. Surely a blinking and moving orange light is more eye catching than one that is just blinking. :huh:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: greencode on 09 April 2017, 22:52
Looks just like a tdi R line..  Wheels are shocking.  I think VW have clearly with the gti and R given them some awful wheel options hoping people will upgrade.

The thing is those wheels are an upgrade at £810  :shocked:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: greencode on 09 April 2017, 22:54
I don't understand how they would be less visible. Surely a blinking and moving orange light is more eye catching than one that is just blinking. :huh:

I've not actually seen the Golf's sweeping indicators but if they are like the Audi's then I personally think they are not as clear.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: kalimon on 09 April 2017, 23:02
That silver white R looks awful IMO.

Looks just like a tdi R line..  Wheels are shocking.  I think VW have clearly with the gti and R given them some awful wheel options hoping people will upgrade.

vAG have list  the plot lately the wheels on the TTRS are also awful.
My feelings exactly
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: CHB100 on 09 April 2017, 23:30
I don't understand how they would be less visible. Surely a blinking and moving orange light is more eye catching than one that is just blinking. :huh:

I've not actually seen the Golf's sweeping indicators but if they are like the Audi's then I personally think they are not as clear.
I have seen them and couldn't take my eyes off them. They for sure draw your attention, and are logical in to outside directional light flow
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 10 April 2017, 06:15
I'm not saying I can't see them!! I'm saying they are "tricker to see". BTW, I have perfect 20/20 vision!
I don't understand how they would be less visible. Surely a blinking and moving orange light is more eye catching than one that is just blinking. :huh:

That's what I was thinking as well, espically giving the lenght of the sweep on Audi and VW indicators.  Maybe it might be a good idea to have an eye test just in case if one was to find it hard to see them.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Briggsy on 10 April 2017, 10:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkA0jDNKVJU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkA0jDNKVJU)

I'd love to know how that's tricky to see.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: fredgroves on 10 April 2017, 10:27
Sweepies on the mirrors too? (on that CS retrofit video)

That's not normal Mk7.5 is it?
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: davyk31 on 10 April 2017, 10:48
Agree about the wheel comments, those upgrade on the R aren't good. If I was going R I would stick with the standard 18". A GTI however looks terrible on the standard 18s so it would need upgraded to 19" Brescias. A GTD would ideally have Brescia but could live with the 18s ok.

Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: kalimon on 10 April 2017, 17:20
Agree about the wheel comments, those upgrade on the R aren't good. If I was going R I would stick with the standard 18". A GTI however looks terrible on the standard 18s so it would need upgraded to 19" Brescias. A GTD would ideally have Brescia but could live with the 18s ok.
I personally think the Brescias look pretty crap. Out of all the standard and optional wheels on the facelift GTI and GTD, the standard GTD wheels look the nicest to me.
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: kalimon on 10 April 2017, 17:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkA0jDNKVJU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkA0jDNKVJU)

I'd love to know how that's tricky to see.
That is one tricky looky GTI  :cool:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: greencode on 10 April 2017, 17:46
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Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: david25 on 10 April 2017, 18:14
I don't understand how they would be less visible. Surely a blinking and moving orange light is more eye catching than one that is just blinking. :huh:

I've not actually seen the Golf's sweeping indicators but if they are like the Audi's then I personally think they are not as clear.

Agreed, its like your mind has to process the extra movement, compared to just the "normal" flashing
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: Daz Auto on 10 April 2017, 22:13
Agreed, its like your mind has to process the extra movement, compared to just the "normal" flashing

Here is a video comparing the lights. Those front indicators are going to be hard to miss. And the rear ones look much bigger too. :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBzyqMCNQH8

6 years ago when I bought my car, I remember reading that LED brake lights switched on faster than standard lights. However, early indications were that people didn't register LED light as effectively. Therefore, accidents actually increased :huh: :rolleyes: I wonder if that is true. :undecided:
Title: Re: Seen on road Mk7.5
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 11 April 2017, 09:55
Agreed, its like your mind has to process the extra movement, compared to just the "normal" flashing

Here is a video comparing the lights. Those front indicators are going to be hard to miss. And the rear ones look much bigger too. :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBzyqMCNQH8

6 years ago when I bought my car, I remember reading that LED brake lights switched on faster than standard lights. However, early indications were that people didn't register LED light as effectively. Therefore, accidents actually increased :huh: :rolleyes: I wonder if that is true. :undecided:

That video is quite good.

As for the led rear lights, I remember when the E42 3 series introduced led rear lights and I heard the same thing. I also remember thinking every time I was driving behind one, how the hell could superbright fast led lights be harder to see.