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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: iandjm on 26 May 2016, 17:51
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Hi,
Just had a call from my dealer and it turns out the R specification has been enhanced to include discover navigation and the winter pack for cars built after week 22. As I already have an order in the system my order is price protected too :)
You cannot beat something for nothing :)
Ian
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It was only a matter of time before the R caught up with the GTI/D.
Maybe time to look more seriously at it :smiley:
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At last! Maybe I need to take another look at the R...
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Thanks for the heads up. I have an R on order with Winter Pack configured. I have just emailed my Dealer to ask them if they will deduct the amount of the Winter Pack from the Amount I owe seeing as it's now standard. That's a few hundred quid I don't mind saving for other things if the option is going to become standard on the car. I don't have a build week yet so I can safely say it will be well after Build Week 22. Will let you know how I go with the enquiry sent to my dealer. :smiley:
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Is keyless being thrown in for free now as well?
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Thanks for the heads up. I have an R on order with Winter Pack configured. I have just emailed my Dealer to ask them if they will deduct the amount of the Winter Pack from the Amount I owe seeing as it's now standard. That's a few hundred quid I don't mind saving for other things if the option is going to become standard on the car. I don't have a build week yet so I can safely say it will be well after Build Week 22. Will let you know how I go with the enquiry sent to my dealer. :smiley:
I'm in the exact situation you are in Buddy, I emailed my dealer and he replied that I will not get the price of winter pack taken off my order(£380) as the new price has increased by £500.
He also mentioned App connect is now free too which again I have chose and paid £120 for, so in theory I'm already paying the £500 increase anyway :cry:
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Thanks for the heads up. I have an R on order with Winter Pack configured. I have just emailed my Dealer to ask them if they will deduct the amount of the Winter Pack from the Amount I owe seeing as it's now standard. That's a few hundred quid I don't mind saving for other things if the option is going to become standard on the car. I don't have a build week yet so I can safely say it will be well after Build Week 22. Will let you know how I go with the enquiry sent to my dealer. :smiley:
I'm in the exact situation you are in Buddy, I emailed my dealer and he replied that I will not get the price of winter pack taken off my order(£380) as the new price has increased by £500.
He also mentioned App connect is now free too which again I have chose and paid £120 for, so in theory I'm already paying the £500 increase anyway :cry:
App connect is not free......
The enhancements are as follows:
New standard specification and price changes
Golf R and Golf R Estate – these models gain the following standard specification with a total RRP price of £1,145 of equipment, for an OTR price increase of £500.
Discover Navigation with Car-Net Guide & Inform £765
Winter pack including heated front seats, heated windscreen washers and low washer warning light £380
Golf Estate Match Edition and Match BlueMotion Edition – these models benefit from the following standard specification (a total £1,975 RRP of equipment), all for an OTR price increase of only £100.
16-inch Dover alloys £0
Parking sensors £465
Mirror Pack £100
Front fog lights £245
Discover Navigation with Car-Net Guide & Inform £765
Winter pack including heated front seats, headlight washers, heated windscreen washers and low washer warning light £400
Passat Saloon and Estate GT and R-Line – these models benefit from the following standard specification (a total £1,510 RRP of equipment), for an OTR price increase of £245.
Active Info Display £580
Panoramic sunroof £930
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Ah sorry your bang on mate, it was Car Net Guide, I got mixed up.
In your personal opinion do you think the cost of Winter pack should be taken off existing order :undecided:
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When is week 22 as I'm looking to place my lease order within the next week but was going to ask for a few items to be added.
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If you change anything on an existing order then you'll pay the increased new price.
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Have ordered winter pack on my Golf R which will be built after week 22 but given the £500 increase am not going to bother to contact dealer as I am not paying the £500 and basically getting the Sat Nav worth £795 free as did not option it
I would contact them, cancel Winter Pack and be charged an extra £120 for the pleasure so just going to let sleeping dogs lie :smiley:
The rear view camera has gone up to, its now £265. Pretty sure it was only £135 when I ordered and hence ordered it as cheap as chips
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Have ordered winter pack on my Golf R which will be built after week 22 but given the £500 increase am not going to bother to contact dealer as I am not paying the £500 and basically getting the Sat Nav worth £795 free as did not option it
I would contact them, cancel Winter Pack and be charged an extra £120 for the pleasure so just going to let sleeping dogs lie :smiley:
Yea that's very true I guess, I was happy with my deal so why try and change it and potentially upset someone in the process.
BTW, I just recieved my BW confirmed text today, WC 20 June, considering I only ordered 2 weeks ago I'd say that's quick. I'm glad I changed colour as quick as I did now... phew :smiley:
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My R is on the way, BW20 so missed out :(
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
Will there be any options left.
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
Its hard to keep up with the Regional standard/options but they two premium additions that passed on as too costly to justify but cannot complain really as getting the Sat Nav chucked in now for free.
I have paid for keyless and the rear camera though.
Is there anything the Golf R in Ireland does not get that UK does? IE: Light clusters? etc, just to redress the balance and not make us too envious!
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
Will there be any options left.
Given the R is top end some of these standards should have been anyway so its just redressing the balance really and you are left with the more premium options of Pretoria, DCC, Panoramic Roof, Leather
The one I would really like as standard in the R is the larger media screen but happy enough that the MIB 2 has increased in size and now has same resolution of its bigger brother as the standard MIB 1 unit resolution is poor.
The media, sat nav and driver aids should be standard but it seems commonsense is prevailing in VAG as the A3 has recently gained more standard options on latest face-lifts.
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
Is there anything the Golf R in Ireland does not get that UK does? IE: Light clusters? etc, just to redress the balance and not make us too envious!
No! The Irish spec is miles ahead of UK spec but it is a relatively recent thing. For years and years we used to get the sh1tty end of the stick when it came to spec - until things changed about 2 years ago.
Irish R's have all this above UK cars:
19" Cadiz (The prets are only 130 euro extra)
standard Nav
Keyless
Camera
light assist
And now as I said they're adding more again from bw22.
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
Is there anything the Golf R in Ireland does not get that UK does? IE: Light clusters? etc, just to redress the balance and not make us too envious!
No! The Irish spec is miles ahead of UK spec but it is a relatively recent thing. For years and years we used to get the sh1tty end of the stick when it came to spec - until things changed about 2 years ago.
Irish R's have all this above UK cars:
19" Cadiz (The prets are only 130 euro extra)
standard Nav
Keyless
Camera
light assist
And now as I said they're adding more again from bw22.
Why are we not all buying our cars in Ireland then and going on a day trip to collect? is the price the same or do you pay more? and would there be taxes etc for doing that which would wipe out any benefit?
Not too bothered about the smaller options but standard leather and dynaudio is something to cast the green eye at as they are not cheap options by any means. And with small uplift to Pretoria you are really being spoilt!
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Fully agree, I have forked out £900+ for the luxury of having Pretorias. I would have originally liked 19" Cadiz but is not an option in the UK and these are standard in Ireland. Just who is choosing and deciding on the options for VW UK? :huh:
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
Is there anything the Golf R in Ireland does not get that UK does? IE: Light clusters? etc, just to redress the balance and not make us too envious!
No! The Irish spec is miles ahead of UK spec but it is a relatively recent thing. For years and years we used to get the sh1tty end of the stick when it came to spec - until things changed about 2 years ago.
Irish R's have all this above UK cars:
19" Cadiz (The prets are only 130 euro extra)
standard Nav
Keyless
Camera
light assist
And now as I said they're adding more again from bw22.
Why are we not all buying our cars in Ireland then and going on a day trip to collect? is the price the same or do you pay more? and would there be taxes etc for doing that which would wipe out any benefit?
Not too bothered about the smaller options but standard leather and dynaudio is something to cast the green eye at as they are not cheap options by any means. And with small uplift to Pretoria you are really being spoilt!
I think taxes and the logistics of importing/exporting the car make it prohibitive tbh. Also, our clocks are all in KM/H rather than MPH so you'd need to change those over.
The R starts here at about €44k retail for the 3 door manual, which is about £33.5k.
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Fully agree, I have forked out £900+ for the luxury of having Pretorias. I would have originally liked 19" Cadiz but is not an option in the UK and these are standard in Ireland. Just who is choosing and deciding on the options for VW UK? :huh:
Reason dropped the Sat Nav was to go to Pretoria, they are expensive but became must have, as personally think they make the car but the £900 lift is hard to justify as a charge, its over £200 a wheel extra over the standard and pretty sure that cannot be the gap - But it is what it is and I wanted them so sometimes you just pay the price and move on as to not have them would have bothered me.
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The Nav isn't great anyway... you'll have App connect which is far better tbh.
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I think I may have got lucky with this one.
Ours is a BW24 car with neither option spec'd so both are going to be freebies.
On top of this my dealer has already confirmed they will also honour the increased dealer contribution at £2,000, another £750 saving on the deal.
If this is all as it seems to be I am thoroughly chuffed :cool: :cool:
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Irish spec'd R's do even better... Rumour has it, from week 22, Irish R's will get:
App connect, Dynaudio and (possibly) leather.
That's on top of the current spec which includes keyless, Nav, rear camera, light assist...
Is there anything the Golf R in Ireland does not get that UK does? IE: Light clusters? etc, just to redress the balance and not make us too envious!
No! The Irish spec is miles ahead of UK spec but it is a relatively recent thing. For years and years we used to get the sh1tty end of the stick when it came to spec - until things changed about 2 years ago.
Irish R's have all this above UK cars:
19" Cadiz (The prets are only 130 euro extra)
standard Nav
Keyless
Camera
light assist
And now as I said they're adding more again from bw22.
Why are we not all buying our cars in Ireland then and going on a day trip to collect? is the price the same or do you pay more? and would there be taxes etc for doing that which would wipe out any benefit?
Not too bothered about the smaller options but standard leather and dynaudio is something to cast the green eye at as they are not cheap options by any means. And with small uplift to Pretoria you are really being spoilt!
I think taxes and the logistics of importing/exporting the car make it prohibitive tbh. Also, our clocks are all in KM/H rather than MPH so you'd need to change those over.
The R starts here at about €44k retail for the 3 door manual, which is about £33.5k.
Vanilla 3 door in UK is £31, 685 so if added leather and dynaudio to that it comes out at £33,985 so the gap does lessen, you just get as standard we get the choice and if you add in taxes imagine Ireland cars would cost more than UK one for same spec, and with added bonus of having to work out KPH :smiley:
Feel better now, its quite comparative really, as what they giveth they taketh too
Min
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The Nav isn't great anyway... you'll have App connect which is far better tbh.
Actually agree, and reason was more than happy to just use the App-Connect, but the integration is still a nice to have, and does work with the car net in showing places etc, so was happy to slide on at cost, but free will take it
Integrated Nav does come up in the Driver Display too, which personally like and use.
Maybe that finally made this decision as orders dropped for sat nav due to App-Connect and they making the long term recovery from the price lift.
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I think I may have got lucky with this one.
Ours is a BW24 car with neither option spec'd so both are going to be freebies.
On top of this my dealer has already confirmed they will also honour the increased dealer contribution at £2,000, another £750 saving on the deal.
If this is all as it seems to be I am thoroughly chuffed :cool: :cool:
I have managed exactly the same mate. Really really pleased :)
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Good news is always welcomed isn't it :cool: :cool:
I actually wanted the Winter Pack too but reigned in the spec, all in I have gained nearly £2k in additional cost savings on my original deal (£800 Nav / £400 Winter / £750 Dealer contribution) and I was already at £5k off list as I signed on the dotted line.
:laugh:
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Good news is always welcomed isn't it :cool: :cool:
I actually wanted the Winter Pack too but reigned in the spec, all in I have gained nearly £2k in additional cost savings on my original deal (£800 Nav / £400 Winter / £750 Dealer contribution) and I was already at £5k off list as I signed on the dotted line.
:laugh:
It is cheaper than a second hand car ;)
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Irish R owner here. If I lived in the UK I would 100 percent be pursuing buying the car in Ireland. The dealer can spec mph clocks.
The price Joe quoted there includes an Irish tax (VRT)which is not applicable in the UK. The tax is 28%, so knock 28% off that price. You would essentially be buying a new unregistered car that you would need to register yourself in the UK. Worth a phone call to a dealer or two anyway.
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Irish R owner here. If I lived in the UK I would 100 percent be pursuing buying the car in Ireland. The dealer can spec mph clocks.
The price Joe quoted there includes an Irish tax (VRT)which is not applicable in the UK. The tax is 28%, so knock 28% off that price. You would essentially be buying a new unregistered car that you would need to register yourself in the UK. Worth a phone call to a dealer or two anyway.
I just specced a car up on VW.ie and it comes to €48,000. So are you saying I take 28% off that price and then convert in to Sterling, works out about £26k if my maths is correct :sick:
Plus I noticed on the site they do PCP for 1.2% APR
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Yeah that's it. However when I enquired with the Irish revenue how much VRT was paid on my car it was less than 28%. Not sure why, it was still around and 11k euro though. So the dealer only gets about 35k euro.
Google Irish VRT for more info on it.
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Irish R owner here. If I lived in the UK I would 100 percent be pursuing buying the car in Ireland. The dealer can spec mph clocks.
The price Joe quoted there includes an Irish tax (VRT)which is not applicable in the UK. The tax is 28%, so knock 28% off that price. You would essentially be buying a new unregistered car that you would need to register yourself in the UK. Worth a phone call to a dealer or two anyway.
I just specced a car up on VW.ie and it comes to €48,000. So are you saying I take 28% off that price and then convert in to Sterling, works out about £26k if my maths is correct :sick:
Plus I noticed on the site they do PCP for 1.2% APR
But would you need to add UK VAT to the Irish price net of VRT when the car is imported into the UK and would there be any other import duties / taxes to pay?
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PCP here is 1.9% (it was zero % for a while earlier this year)... but there's no way a non-ROI resident would get that PCP rate. I'm pretty sure they'd cover themselves, that would be for Irish residents only.
Also, the volkswagen.ie configurator is completely pants... don't rely on it for accurate specs or prices. The product guide is a better more accurate guideline: http://www.volkswagen.ie/content/medialib/vwd4/ie/pdf-downloads/product-guides/golf-gti-gtd-product-guide/_jcr_content/renditions/rendition.download_attachment.file/product-guide-golf-a6-gti---gtd_july.pdf
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I believe so but the Irish vat negates this as it's not payable. I think the Irish rate is 23% and UK 20% so another saving potentially.
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Yeah this would only work for cash buyers. You also would need to convince the Irish dealer. The car won't be regged in Ireland so they won't get their stat for sales targets.
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2nd June press release extract:
"A (further) breath of fresh air is the addition of an allergy filter to the 2Zone electronic air conditioning system, and this is now standard across the Performance Golf and Performance Golf Estate ranges (GTI, GTD, GTE, R and Alltrack models).
Driving further into the range, the Golf R and the Golf Estate R now include the Discover Navigation infotainment system, with Car Net Guide and Inform, factory fitted as standard. In addition, both R models now come equipped with heated front seats, headlight washers and heated windscreen washer jets. That’s an extra £1145 of equipment for only a £500 addition to the on-the-road price. Thus, the Golf R starts from £31,685 RRP OTR and the Golf Estate R is £34,455 RRP OTR."
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So if they increase the on the road price by £500 for the Winter Pack and Sat Nav to be standard I can see the dealers saying they cannot give me back a rebate for these options when I configured at cost back in April for my car as the on the road price of my order was less so in effect I would be paying for the options no matter what i do. Although I am only paying for the Winter Pack as I have specced Nav Pro
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Something that do use in present GTD but actually never took as an option in the R has apparently been thrown in with the Sat Nav and Winter Pack and that is the through loading on the rear seats.
Should be standard anyway you would think with the above items on a premium vehicle, but as these have been addressed by VW now then will just be happy it has :smiley:
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I think the through load feature is standard on the R just like the GTI. Has been for quite sometime.
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Don't forget the small matter of our pricing, standard R sits at €45k!
That's around £35k stg
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I think the through load feature is standard on the R just like the GTI. Has been for quite sometime.
You could very well be right but it was still an option on the list that selected the company lease from but these are not the most accurate given the multiple options across the ranges and so if I had selected it then it would likely have been removed on the follow up ordering.