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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: gtiaps on 21 March 2016, 13:11
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Hi all
As topic just thinking what has it all cost us for the new mk7 weather Gti Gtd Gte inc extra options, retailers good great bad or pushy.
Just your thoughts lads n lasses :smiley:
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We went for a straight forward 2 year lease based on 6 plus 23. 5000 Mpa. Free road tax for 2 years.
No additional fees at all.
The car is a standard 5 door Golf GTI with the only extra being Deep Pearl Black Paint. Delivery very soon.
We are £241.80 per month inc VAT and £1450.80 upfront so add it all up and divide by 24 and you get £292.18 per month for two years.
I thought it was a good deal but you may have done better. Would love to hear.
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We jumped straight in cash wife didn't want pcp or finance as you can see from the spec it's about everything you can chuck at a gti didn't bother with the performance pack 220 bhp is quite enough lol phoned a few dealers told em what I wanted to pay JCT600 wouldn't move from £31.000 unless pcp pushing that big time and that was only a third of the extras finished up going with the VW dealer Hayselden of Barnsley where wife's scirocco came from excellent customer service no quibles no presssure at all so no trade in just straight cash she's on her way all in £28.000 list price was £32.240 inc 2yr servicing well chuffed with the price after looking round at pre reg or ex demos :cool:
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Car - '65 plate Golf R - 5 door DSG, DBP, 19" Pretoria, DCC, Vienna leather, Keyless, Tech Pack (Dynaudio+ DNS Pro), Rear view camera, HBA - Fantastic car! No issus thus far - 6 months into ownership.
Ordered - via Drivethedeal from JCB Medway - buying totally process pain free - dealership excellent, pick up excellent - 8 month wait not so excellent but a fading memory now.
Purchase method - bought outright with cash - paid £33,992 after discount. List price was £38,600 (thereabouts)
Trade-in - sold my Mk6 GTI privately for £15,500 cash.
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16 plate GTI
Performance Pack
Carbon grey
Dynaudio
Rear view camera
High beam assist
Car net app
Paid £25498 cash from VW Altrincham
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2015 15 plate GTI. Unlike many others, took the impatient route and bought as an ex-demo. Tornado red, 19" Santiagos, PP and nav (not standard at the time). 90 days old, 1509 miles on the clock (one careless owner!) and after the £500 deposit contribution paid £23750 including 3 years servicing. Finance cleared now. Was a good deal at the time, dtd were about £750 more for the same spec but as I said, minimal waiting and once driven I had to have it!
Oddly, I paid near enough the same in 2003 for my then new Audi A4! If I keep the GTI 12 years, I wonder what I'll be buying for around £24k in 2027? Will I still be driving? Will I still have the same teeth??! Will some hair have grown back?
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2015 65 plate GTD manual in TR. It's a completely standard car, but that gives a lot these days (nav, ACC, keyless, etc). Pre-reg VW DasWelt car with less than 50miles on clock. Bought from Arnold Clark VW in Glasgow. It seems all VW dealers in central Scotland are Arnold Clark, so didn't have a choice of company. I was looking at others from further away on VW DasWelt site, but for the age/price there wasn't many that came close to this one.
Cash price was £23450. I had my old fiesta to put in, which they gave me £3750 for (after talking them up from £3500) and £6500 cash. Remainder on finance (HP) which works out at £271 a month for 5yrs including 2yrs servicing.
5yrs is a long time I know, but I did a huge jump up from the Fiesta, and as its HP the car will be mine at the end of it. I also needed to keep the payments down as low as possible. Hoping to pay it off a year early as well. I figure (by checking the value of a 5yr old GTD) it should be roughly worth the deposit (cash + trade in) that I put in by the end of the 5yrs, so can then do the same again.
I think I'm quite happy with the deal I got, given the amount of cash + trade in that I had to put into it, guess it maybe could have been a bit better, but not by much.
Obviously Arnold Clark tried to sell me their gap insurance, but it was going to work out at double the cost of ALA, and for a year's less cover!
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I wasn't sure what the actual cost of my car was as I was going by monthlies plus out of the 3 or 4 separate bits of finance papers I was given, the cost was worked out different each time. Sometimes the Loyalty was included as the deposit and other times the PCP discount was included as the deposit. All very weird.
Anyway the final figure from VW direct rather than the dealer was £23,489 which looks to match drivethedeal
16 plate 5dr manual GTI
Car net App
Parking Pack
Metallic Paint
90% tints
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Car is a 2015 (65) 5 Door GTi in Carbon Steel Grey, colour and 5 doors being the only extras so to speak. As many others used the DTD price at the time as a bench mark and then placed a spec on Car Wow. Inchscape VW at Bolton came back as the cheapest. Organised a test drive on one of the 2nd hand MK7 GTi's they had on the forecourt and went a bartering. Was open minded to some extent on colour so when they said they had a 5dr CSG standard car on order for mid Nov 15 delivery it suited me down to the ground. My company car hire ended mid November and they matched DTD price. Cant fault Chris or VW at Bolton, no hassle, no pressure.
Paid £23800 for the car after the £1250 PCP contribution against a list price of £28700.
Love the car to bits - couldn't be happier with it.
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Never write things like this down. Man maths bans writing things like this down! :rolleyes:
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Not a golf but managed to get a Passat alltrack 190 dsg on lease for 2 years, 8k miles, £446 deposit and £145 a month! Thought deal was to good to turn down!
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If you're happy with it, but personally they would have to pay be much more to drive around in a Passat estate. :)
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I am pricing up an R at the minute with a RRP of £41,680 and have a few offers of over 15% discount. The best at the moment is £34,232 which is a discount of 17.9% and that price is the same for both cash and finance.
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I am pricing up an R at the minute with a RRP of £41,680 and have a few offers of over 15% discount. The best at the moment is £34,232 which is a discount of 17.9% and that price is the same for both cash and finance.
Lookin at those figures I'm thinking they could do better there desperate to get these things out all I did was phone round different dealers get a price your happy with then go back to the original one with it... done forget the £1200 and the £1000 loyalty bonus :whistle:
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I am pricing up an R at the minute with a RRP of £41,680 and have a few offers of over 15% discount. The best at the moment is £34,232 which is a discount of 17.9% and that price is the same for both cash and finance.
Lookin at those figures I'm thinking they could do better there desperate to get these things out all I did was phone round different dealers get a price your happy with then go back to the original one with it... done forget the £1200 and the £1000 loyalty bonus :whistle:
One dealer, Jason Hancock at Coulsdon Volkswagen offered no discount and I thought he made a mistake and asked if he had forgotten to include a discount and he replied saying that there are no discounts on these cars. I wonder how many cars he has sold.
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One dealer, Jason Hancock at Coulsdon Volkswagen offered no discount and I thought he made a mistake and asked if he had forgotten to include a discount and he replied saying that there are no discounts on these cars. I wonder how many cars he has sold.
Probably quite a few as there are 000's of naive people out there.
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I am pricing up an R at the minute with a RRP of £41,680 and have a few offers of over 15% discount. The best at the moment is £34,232 which is a discount of 17.9% and that price is the same for both cash and finance.
Lookin at those figures I'm thinking they could do better there desperate to get these things out all I did was phone round different dealers get a price your happy with then go back to the original one with it... done forget the £1200 and the £1000 loyalty bonus :whistle:
One dealer, Jason Hancock at Coulsdon Volkswagen offered no discount and I thought he made a mistake and asked if he had forgotten to include a discount and he replied saying that there are no discounts on these cars. I wonder how many cars he has sold.
Probably not many with that attitude I'm happy with mine over 4k off list :grin:
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My GTi is poverty spec except the DBP.
Like others only concerned on the monthly's, 4 Year PCP £340 a month no deposit.
Half way through now and still not got itchy feet to change yet which is suprising but maybe to do with the wife drives it more than me know!
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My GTi is poverty spec except the DBP.
Like others only concerned on the monthly's, 4 Year PCP £340 a month no deposit.
Half way through now and still not got itchy feet to change yet which is suprising but maybe to do with the wife drives it more than me know!
I drive the wife's scirocco more than she does guess it's gonna be payback when the gti arrives. :whistle:
I can see the benefits of people not planning on keeping the car long term but I know Tesco were offering loans @ 4.3% which is over half the pcp terms without the big lump at the end if your planning on keeping the car :laugh:
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I am pricing up an R at the minute with a RRP of £41,680 and have a few offers of over 15% discount. The best at the moment is £34,232 which is a discount of 17.9% and that price is the same for both cash and finance.
Lookin at those figures I'm thinking they could do better there desperate to get these things out all I did was phone round different dealers get a price your happy with then go back to the original one with it... done forget the £1200 and the £1000 loyalty bonus :whistle:
One dealer, Jason Hancock at Coulsdon Volkswagen offered no discount and I thought he made a mistake and asked if he had forgotten to include a discount and he replied saying that there are no discounts on these cars. I wonder how many cars he has sold.
Drive the deal is always cheaper for me than Car Wow...
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Not a golf but managed to get a Passat alltrack 190 dsg on lease for 2 years, 8k miles, £446 deposit and £145 a month! Thought deal was to good to turn down!
That sounds like a great bargain. It must work out cheaper than a fully loaded sky subscription!
I wouldn't mind driving a passat, I can think of far worse cars
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I have always purchased my cars outright (combination of payment & loan) but I must admit for the first time I'm slowly coming round to the possibility of leasing. There are some fantastic deals out there if you do your homework and the idea of being able to jump into a different brand new car every two years is very appealing to me.
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That's what we thought as well :laugh: :smiley: :wink:
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Hi all
Seen on a few posts about red badging on the gti seems in the early days of the mk7 some came with red gti others silver pp or non pp however now vw only doing red gti badging on the PP for the uk unless you want it on non pp either buy and fit yourself r ask your dealer to have fitted prior to collecting the car...
Neil
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I had an 11.3% discount through car wow - DTD would have been slightly better but it was my local dealer and I fancied the local pickup.
The 11.3% savings were pretty much squarely spent on options, and I'm paying £360 a month over 4yrs/10k a yr after a £2800 deposit.
I'm facing a bit of a conundrum at the moment in regards to whether to make an overpayment.
If I were to make an overpayment now of say £5000 I would save over £1500 of interest from the remaining 2 years of finance. Even considering interest on the 5k in the bank it's a no brainer for the savings.
The "problem" is, this would bring my settlement balloon payment forward to December of this year (18 months early), meaning I would have to sell the car and go for something new in December of this year, and I can't quite figure out what my car will be worth compared to the balloon payment of £12,480. Although, hopefully diesel gate would be a distant memory by then. I nearly switched for a GTI at the start of this year but I couldn't stomach paying off the negative equity I currently have.
If anyone can help me figure this out I would be very grateful!
Other than that, I might be tempted to lease next time - even if it works out the same money at least you don't have to faff around with all of the above!
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^ I personally wouldn't overpay to shorten the loan unless you're going to buy it outright. With Dieselgate the way it is right now i'd be looking towards the cushion of that GFV. If it lingers there may be people with negative equity at 3 years. Get the monthlies done in early and you might find yourself being offered in px after 2 years not much more than 3 year GFV. If dieselgate hadn't happened then i'd say go for the overpayment, but as is you may well find your £1500 saving eaten up with a sh!tty px value.
The potential faff with leasing is getting a great deal on your next car for a car you want (or could live with) at the right time so there's no lease overlap and no gap between cars.
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I have always purchased my cars outright (combination of payment & loan) but I must admit for the first time I'm slowly coming round to the possibility of leasing. There are some fantastic deals out there if you do your homework and the idea of being able to jump into a different brand new car every two years is very appealing to me.
I think a good few of us on here and on other forums too no doubt are pretty much in the same mindset.
To me, if the R loses so much value that there's no point part ex'ing it at a couple/few years old then I'd just keep it and initially run a cheap up! or C1 or something for commuting/supermarket/dump trips as a £60 per month leaser until the R is old enough to be sold privately, with low mileage, then get something a bit dearer on a lease depending on what was on offer at the time.
Obviously leases are only good value if the car you're leasing has the spec you want straight out of the factory and you don't have to wait ages between one lease being collected and another arriving on the back of a trailer. However private leasing is gradually becoming popular but business leases have been popular for years and years and they seem to manage ok seamlessly between contracts so you just have to be organised and sharp eyed. I'm sure there are flexibilities built in.
Hi all
Seen on a few posts about red badging on the gti seems in the early days of the mk7 some came with red gti others silver pp or non pp however now vw only doing red gti badging on the PP for the uk unless you want it on non pp either buy and fit yourself r ask your dealer to have fitted prior to collecting the car...
Neil
All the early GTI's had silver badges. After about 12 months they changed it to red for the PP. The red badges are easy enough to get hold of if you want one on a non PP GTI.
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^ I personally wouldn't overpay to shorten the loan unless you're going to buy it outright. With Dieselgate the way it is right now i'd be looking towards the cushion of that GFV. If it lingers there may be people with negative equity at 3 years. Get the monthlies done in early and you might find yourself being offered in px after 2 years not much more than 3 year GFV. If dieselgate hadn't happened then i'd say go for the overpayment, but as is you may well find your £1500 saving eaten up with a sh!tty px value.
The potential faff with leasing is getting a great deal on your next car for a car you want (or could live with) at the right time so there's no lease overlap and no gap between cars.
Thanks Matt, I was hoping to hear your thoughts with your good grasp on these things. You've helped confirm my suspicions that bringing the final payment forward may not be the best move, and yes it would have made sense in different circumstances. I've got the 4yr warranty, so can keep my options open at least, it depends if I get tempted along the way of course!
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Obviously leases are only good value if the car you're leasing has the spec you want straight out of the factory and you don't have to wait ages between one lease being collected and another arriving on the back of a trailer. However private leasing is gradually becoming popular but business leases have been popular for years and years and they seem to manage ok seamlessly between contracts so you just have to be organised and sharp eyed. I'm sure there are flexibilities built in.
My thoughts just now are that if there is a really good lease deal to be had on the R then it makes sense given the potential poor trade in values plus the basic R is so well specced that I wouldn't really bother about adding options which would be a complete waste of money on a lease anyway. Just now on my car I have DCC, which I've never noticed much of a difference, sat nav pro which is nice but I hardly ever use if I'm honest. The two I would miss most would be the heated seats and especially keyless entry but again they are nice but not essential.
This is all hearsay just now anyway until I hear what the lease price is. If it's not as good as I was hoping then I'll probably be sticking with the GTI for a while longer
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You can get Car Net on the new R's Craig so that renders the nav upgrade as 'not worth the money' and Keyless and heated seats are far from necessary unless you have a regular female driver.
Just about the only people I know who love heated seats (in my non cyber-life) are women who seem to go mad for them. I had them on one of my mk6's with leather (dealer registered car so not ordered new) and used them once. Hardly a necessity and that's coming from someone who gets in their car around 4am most mornings having had to remove a layer of ice.
As for keyless, no comment! But I'm sure it wouldn't add masses to a lease price.
http://www.uchoosecontracts.co.uk/volkswagen_golf_2.0_tsi_300_r_5_door_personal
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Anyone think next year's car tax changes will persuade people to keep their car longer, considering some models hefty first year fee (the likes of the R will have a £500 initial fee)?
Then everything from a Citroen C1 with a sewing machine under the bonnet and upwards will pay a flat £140 a year.
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You can get Car Net on the new R's Craig so that renders the nav upgrade as 'not worth the money' and Keyless and heated seats are far from necessary unless you have a regular female driver.
Just about the only people I know who love heated seats (in my non cyber-life) are women who seem to go mad for them. I had them on one of my mk6's with leather (dealer registered car so not ordered new) and used them once. Hardly a necessity and that's coming from someone who gets in their car around 4am most mornings having had to remove a layer of ice.
As for keyless, no comment! But I'm sure it wouldn't add masses to a lease price.
http://www.uchoosecontracts.co.uk/volkswagen_golf_2.0_tsi_300_r_5_door_personal
I agree on the heated seats my mate swears by them he's got them on his gte and had them in his mk4 they do nowt for me and I'm bout the same 4am starts.
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All the early GTI's had silver badges. After about 12 months they changed it to red for the PP. The red badges are easy enough to get hold of if you want one on a non PP GTI.
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Yeah thanks I did look into it after I'd read bout the changes with the badging I got mine sorted it's non pp but coming with the red badging on possibly not to everyone's taste but to be honest if you've got a gti then why not show what it is... :whistle:
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All the early GTI's had silver badges. After about 12 months they changed it to red for the PP. The red badges are easy enough to get hold of if you want one on a non PP GTI.
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Yeah thanks I did look into it after I'd read bout the changes with the badging I got mine sorted it's non pp but coming with the red badging on possibly not to everyone's taste but to be honest if you've got a gti then why not show what it is... :whistle:
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I have one of the early GTI's which came with the silver badges even though it's got the PP. I could have swapped for red badges but I actually prefer the silver ones, to me they just look a bit more classy than the red
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Just heard from the lease company I was speaking to regarding the so called great offer on the R and it turns out to be lousy :cry: :cry:. I was looking at 2 year deal 10k miles per annum. The offer I got was 9+23 at £286 per month for 5k miles. Mmmm no thanks.
Dissapointed so will keep looking
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Just a quick update; VW have increased their contribution on GTI's from £1250 to £2000. You have to take their PCP finance to get this, and they've increased the APR on that to 5.3%.
Good news for me; I'm picking up the car on Monday and the above change makes it £750 less than I was expecting, huzzah!
My deal in summary: GTI manual PP, 5 door, Reflex Silver with DCC, Dynaudio and professional nav (i.e. Tech Pack), reversing camera = £25,957.
Bubba.
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Just a quick update; VW have increased their contribution on GTI's from £1250 to £2000. You have to take their PCP finance to get this, and they've increased the APR on that to 5.3%.
Good news for me; I'm picking up the car on Monday and the above change makes it £750 less than I was expecting, huzzah!
My deal in summary: GTI manual PP, 5 door, Reflex Silver with DCC, Dynaudio and professional nav (i.e. Tech Pack), reversing camera = £25,957.
Bubba.
Thanks for the info! Will they honour that deal even after you've placed your order? I'm expecting mine sometime in June and ordered at the beginning of April.
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When did that happen ? Picked mine up on April 30th last Saturday and got £1250
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Increased to £2k from 4th May until 30th June....
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/buying-guide/offers/golf-gti-vii/private/517
£500 loyalty bonus is also still available.
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Ok cheers, didn't know that increase was coming ...bit gutted but still the car is great.
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Increased to £2k from 4th May until 30th June....
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/buying-guide/offers/golf-gti-vii/private/517
£500 loyalty bonus is also still available.
Indeed; I confess I hadn't spotted it until my dealer told me two days ago - so it does apply to orders already placed since I ordered in January......."May the fourth be with you!".........sorry.
Bubba.
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Increased to £2k from 4th May until 30th June....
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/buying-guide/offers/golf-gti-vii/private/517
£500 loyalty bonus is also still available.
Indeed; I confess I hadn't spotted it until my dealer told me two days ago - so it does apply to orders already placed since I ordered in January......."May the fourth be with you!".........sorry.
Bubba.
Brilliant! I've contacted my dealer on Carwow and asked if they'll up the contribution. Means I'll have £2000 deposit contribution and the £500 loyalty bonus. :cool:
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Increased to £2k from 4th May until 30th June....
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/buying-guide/offers/golf-gti-vii/private/517
£500 loyalty bonus is also still available.
Swings and roundabouts me thinks we got 1k loyalty bonus didn't go for pcp as sorted ours cash so upping from £1250 to 2k is £750 increase but dropped loyalty bonus to £500 leaves £250 and I bet that's been swallowed by the PCP increase as only get the offer if you have PCP so win win VW.... :lipsrsealed:
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Increased to £2k from 4th May until 30th June....
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/buying-guide/offers/golf-gti-vii/private/517
£500 loyalty bonus is also still available.
Indeed; I confess I hadn't spotted it until my dealer told me two days ago - so it does apply to orders already placed since I ordered in January......."May the fourth be with you!".........sorry.
Bubba.
Brilliant! I've contacted my dealer on Carwow and asked if they'll up the contribution. Means I'll have £2000 deposit contribution and the £500 loyalty bonus. :cool:
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I'm having mine on PCP, sounds good for an extra £750 but will that be swallowed in the extra percentage figure from 4.9% to 5.4%, probably not, but we will see soon!!!
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I got the added contribution confimed with my dealer via Carwow today. Took my monthly PPC payment from £330 to £295. Which to me is a fantastic saving :cool:! Cheers for the heads up guys.