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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: pgibson007 on 04 November 2015, 19:03
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Hello,
Called VW today to find out if there was a build week set for my GTI yet as it's been 5 weeks since I ordered it and my dealer hasn't heard anything. Customer services told me GTI builds are delayed as they've decided to remove keyless entry from the standard spec. Not sure how removing something can increase build times but apparently it does!
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Hello,
Called VW today to find out if there was a build week set for my GTI yet as it's been 5 weeks since I ordered it and my dealer hasn't heard anything. Customer services told me GTI builds are delayed as they've decided to remove keyless entry from the standard spec. Not sure how removing something can increase build times but apparently it does!
It should also reduce the list price - bet that doesn't happen. If people are nervy about buying VWs now, even petrol variants, you'd expect VW to be throwing more kit in as a sweetener, not less.
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On the VW Configurator site the standard spec has changed it now says keyless entry on 5 door models only for the GTI, I cant see anything else that has changed on standard spec. I take it you ordered the 3 door GTI?
I ordered my 5 door GTI in the beginning of August and I got my build week on week commencing 30th Nov. I doubt I will take delivery of mine this side of the year.
My point is the wait is terribly long and it is very frustrating.
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I would be extremely annoyed if they reduced the spec on a car that I had ordered.
I've just had a poke around on the configurator and seen this
"Style Package
Door sill trim: the high-quality stainless steel sill protectors with Golf lettering do not just protect the heavily used entrance area but are also a real eye-catcher. Tail silencer trim, twin pipe, chrome: The tail silencer trim brings an additional shot of powerful good looks to the Golf. The inclined design, combined with the hint of top-quality, turns it into a true highlight. Chrome rear strip: The attractive chrome-look protective strip is not only an eye-catcher, it also effectively protects the edge of the rear lid at the same time."
I'm not into the chrome rear strip but the sill protectors sounds good. I might see if I can find out what these are and if I can get them retrofitted to mine.
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The trouble with chrome protective strips is that you then don't want to scratch the chrome.
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I would be extremely annoyed if they reduced the spec on a car that I had ordered.
I've just had a poke around on the configurator and seen this
"Style Package
Door sill trim: the high-quality stainless steel sill protectors with Golf lettering do not just protect the heavily used entrance area but are also a real eye-catcher. Tail silencer trim, twin pipe, chrome: The tail silencer trim brings an additional shot of powerful good looks to the Golf. The inclined design, combined with the hint of top-quality, turns it into a true highlight. Chrome rear strip: The attractive chrome-look protective strip is not only an eye-catcher, it also effectively protects the edge of the rear lid at the same time."
I'm not into the chrome rear strip but the sill protectors sounds good. I might see if I can find out what these are and if I can get them retrofitted to mine.
26 October 2015
Effective immediately on any three-door models built from week 45
VW1301-15
Keyless entry is no longer an option on all three-door Golf models built from week 45 onwards (starting 2 November).
This includes the GTD and GTI trims, where it is standard. There will be no change to the availability of keyless entry for five-door Golfs.
The Volkswagen website, the showroom configurator and SLi have been updated and will show this change from today (Wednesday 21 October). The price list and brochure will be updated as soon as possible.
For future orders, we will reduce on the road (OTR) price by £365 (the consumer price of Keyless entry) for three-door GTD and GTI models.
Keyless entry vehicles in pipeline
There are around 600 vehicles on order that have been impacted by this change.
The Customer Services Centre (CSC) will be in contact to discuss these customer-tagged cars and the next steps to take.
For orders already placed the car will re-consign at the lower value of the current OTR less £365 including VAT.
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Whats the thinking around this?
It works like a charm on my 3 door.
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Whats the thinking around this?
It works like a charm on my 3 door.
It's the first option I ticked and I love it, glad mine was built just in time :smiley:
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That's bizarre. At first when I was reading it I thought there was no way it would just effect 3 door models until I seen Lee's reply.
I take it it can't even be added at a cost considering they are actually taking the price of it off.
Strange.
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Exactly, whilst I had to pay for it (mine was a 2013 build), I'm really glad I did, but can't understand what having two less doors has to do with the availability of this option.
Looking at what evo1986 posted, it reads that not only is it removed from the 3 door models, but it's not even available as a cost option ?
What's the thinking on this then ?
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This is odd.
If it was just a VW tightwad cost saving thing then the stuff posted by Evo wouldn't be true - they do seem to have a genuine problem here, that is going to make them refund customers and cause grief.
But at the same time, its only for the 3 door.
What could we conclude from this?
If the 3 door keyless uses a separate part and there are supplier difficulties?
If the 3 door uses some different part from the 5 and there are some technical problems with it?
If the 3 door version has a safety problem and there are pending court cases for it?
I'm not convinced that the part numbers are different between the two, mind you, maybe they could be - different sized doors might need a different mechanism? Then again, is the bits in the door actually different? I'd guess the keyless module was more of a central component, the locking and unlocking of the doors is simply a computer controlled function the same as with the key, only the authentication method is different?
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Perhaps they've changed the way keyless works from BW45 that makes it incompatible with 3 door cars. For instance, the current keyless implementation does not work with the rear doors - you cannot unlock/lock the car by touching the rear door handle. I believe you can do this on Audi's. Maybe VW have changed how the system works....
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Jeeps, glad I got mine before it was pulled. Could live without it, but glad I don't have to :shocked:
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Maybe I'm reading that wrong but
"For instance, the current keyless implementation does not work with the rear doors - you cannot unlock/lock the car by touching the rear door handle. I believe you can do this on Audi's. Maybe VW have changed how the system works...."
That would be 5 door models then it effected not 3 door.
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What a shame. I have Keyless on a 3-Door and it enhances my ownership experience of the car. I'd be gutted if I couldn't have it.
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Maybe I'm reading that wrong but
"For instance, the current keyless implementation does not work with the rear doors - you cannot unlock/lock the car by touching the rear door handle. I believe you can do this on Audi's. Maybe VW have changed how the system works...."
That would be 5 door models then it effected not 3 door.
What I'm saying is, perhaps the keyless module has been completely changed so that it now only works with a 5 door car. It's just a theory, and is probably way off :grin:
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There seems to be no logic as to Keyless removal. Nuts! C'mon VW you need all the new customers you can get!
I love using my keyless entry and stop/go push button. As JBirchy says it enhances my ownership of the car every day. Gives it a premium feel.
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There seems to be no logic as to Keyless removal. Nuts! C'mon VW you need all the new customers you can get!
I love using my keyless entry and stop/go push button. As JBirchy says it enhances my ownership of the car every day. Gives it a premium feel.
How weird.
You can still get it on the Scirocco.
now all those poor people ordering 3 door Golfs will have to do the massively difficult task of fishing a key out of their pocket that sits right next to their hand. Oh dear.
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now all those poor people ordering 3 door Golfs will have to do the massively difficult task of fishing a key out of their pocket that sits right next to their hand. Oh dear.
It's not a hardship to use a key........UNTIL you've had keyless. :laugh:
No going back!!!
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My step mother's Juke and various hire cars at work had keyless.
I don't carry a handbag so therefore find it pointless!
Nike are releasing shoes that lace themselves up a la Back to the Future which will be ideal for keyless users who enjoy spending hundreds of pounds just so they don't have to dip their hand in their pocket...
Heaven forbid they have to bend over and tie shoelaces too!!!
:laugh:
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Fuffing about finding a key is so old hat nowadays.
All so convenient now :laugh:
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Fuffing about finding a key is so old hat nowadays.
All so convenient now :laugh:
You must have pockets like a Tardis.
Do you have a butler to open your front door when you roll up at 3am p!ssed out of your tree to save you fumbling around for a house key?
:grin:
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Fuffing about finding a key is so old hat nowadays.
All so convenient now :laugh:
Do you have a butler to open your front door when you roll up at 3am p!ssed out of your tree to save you fumbling around for a house key?
:grin:
Gave up booze years ago so had to give the butler the push :grin:
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Fuffing about finding a key is so old hat nowadays.
All so convenient now :laugh:
Do you have a butler to open your front door when you roll up at 3am p!ssed out of your tree to save you fumbling around for a house key?
:grin:
Gave up booze years ago so had to give the butler the push :grin:
And with the money you saved...
... You can now afford keyless!
Win win!
(Except for the poor butler)
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I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
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I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
That doesn't sound right mate. To lock mine I just waft my hand in front of the sensor, same as unlocking. Though the 2 seconds you're supposed to have to check that the door is locked (as per manual - user, not gearbox!) doesn't seem to exist.
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I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
That doesn't sound right mate. To lock mine I just waft my hand in front of the sensor, same as unlocking. Though the 2 seconds you're supposed to have to check that the door is locked (as per manual - user, not gearbox!) doesn't seem to exist.
Yes i'll maybe get them to look at it when it goes in for it first service.It is something i can easily live with for now though.
Yeah the 2 seconds are more like 0.2 seconds before it unlocks again and the mirrors come out. :grin:
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Fuffing about finding a key is so old hat nowadays.
All so convenient now :laugh:
You must have pockets like a Tardis.
Do you have a butler to open your front door when you roll up at 3am p!ssed out of your tree to save you fumbling around for a house key?
:grin:
Yes, they are called wives, girlfriends etc.
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I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
That doesn't sound right mate. To lock mine I just waft my hand in front of the sensor, same as unlocking. Though the 2 seconds you're supposed to have to check that the door is locked (as per manual - user, not gearbox!) doesn't seem to exist.
Same here. No digging nail into the slot, just glide hand past the sensor and that's it.
I LOVE keyless, and agree, keyless and e-handbrake, especially Autohold function and brilliant features.
Course there's some dinosaur's on here that will find any excuse to pooh-pooh it. :whistle: :grin:
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Fuffing about finding a key is so old hat nowadays.
All so convenient now :laugh:
You must have pockets like a Tardis.
Do you have a butler to open your front door when you roll up at 3am p!ssed out of your tree to save you fumbling around for a house key?
:grin:
Yes, they are called wives, girlfriends etc.
I can just imagine the response they would have to ringing a doorbell because you couldn't be arsed to fish a key out of your pocket!
They might be wearing boxing gloves as they open the door!
PS. Dinosaurs had tiddly arms so would benefit keyless...
PPS. I finally found something that would benefit keyless and an electric handbrake today.
I ran an errand in a Peugeot Partner van earlier. Nasty cheap key that goes in an awkwardly positioned lock and the handbrake is tucked down beside a huge armrest console box thingy.
Nasty van full stop really.
Right, I'm off back to my glass case at the museum...
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Yes, they are called wives, girlfriends etc.
I can just imagine the response they would have to ringing a doorbell because you couldn't be arsed to fish a key out of your pocket!
They might be wearing boxing gloves as they open the door!
PS. Dinosaurs had tiddly arms so would benefit keyless...
PPS. I finally found something that would benefit keyless and an electric handbrake today.
I ran an errand in a Peugeot Partner van earlier. Nasty cheap key that goes in an awkwardly positioned lock and the handbrake is tucked down beside a huge armrest console box thingy.
Nasty van full stop really.
Right, I'm off back to my glass case at the museum...
I've been dragged out of bed countless times in the wee hours of the morning to open the front/back door for a man, who, even if he lucked out and managed to fish the keys out of his pocket, is utterly incapable of lining them up to the keyhole, due to extreme intoxication. So it would be payback time. :laugh:
Now, get back in the display case, I'll lock it behind you. :kiss:
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Yes, they are called wives, girlfriends etc.
I can just imagine the response they would have to ringing a doorbell because you couldn't be arsed to fish a key out of your pocket!
They might be wearing boxing gloves as they open the door!
PS. Dinosaurs had tiddly arms so would benefit keyless...
PPS. I finally found something that would benefit keyless and an electric handbrake today.
I ran an errand in a Peugeot Partner van earlier. Nasty cheap key that goes in an awkwardly positioned lock and the handbrake is tucked down beside a huge armrest console box thingy.
Nasty van full stop really.
Right, I'm off back to my glass case at the museum...
I've been dragged out of bed countless times in the wee hours of the morning to open the front/back door for a man, who, even if he lucked out and managed to fish the keys out of his pocket, is utterly incapable of lining them up to the keyhole, due to extreme intoxication. So it would be payback time. :laugh:
Now, get back in the display case, I'll lock it behind you. :kiss:
I hope you made him camp out on the sofa :grin:
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I've been dragged out of bed countless times in the wee hours of the morning to open the front/back door for a man, who, even if he lucked out and managed to fish the keys out of his pocket, is utterly incapable of lining them up to the keyhole, due to extreme intoxication. So it would be payback time. :laugh:
Now, get back in the display case, I'll lock it behind you. :kiss:
I hope you made him camp out on the sofa :grin:
No I'm a softie, I let him have the spare room. Even with the door firmly closed, the sound of (his) beery snoring reverberates throughout the house!!
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I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
That doesn't sound right mate. To lock mine I just waft my hand in front of the sensor, same as unlocking. Though the 2 seconds you're supposed to have to check that the door is locked (as per manual - user, not gearbox!) doesn't seem to exist.
Same here. No digging nail into the slot, just glide hand past the sensor and that's it.
I LOVE keyless, and agree, keyless and e-handbrake, especially Autohold function and brilliant features.
Course there's some dinosaur's on here that will find any excuse to pooh-pooh it. :whistle: :grin:
The only fault i've found so far.Waxed the hell out of it.Rained.Reversed out of drive with drivers window open (to clear the outside rain droplets).Quick 90 degree forward right turn and whoosh!.All the nicely wax collected rain droplets on the roof poured into the car,over the door controls and my arm.Won't do that again. :angry:
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:rolleyes:
I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
That doesn't sound right mate. To lock mine I just waft my hand in front of the sensor, same as unlocking. Though the 2 seconds you're supposed to have to check that the door is locked (as per manual - user, not gearbox!) doesn't seem to exist.
Same here. No digging nail into the slot, just glide hand past the sensor and that's it.
I LOVE keyless, and agree, keyless and e-handbrake, especially Autohold function and brilliant features.
Course there's some dinosaur's on here that will find any excuse to pooh-pooh it. :whistle: :grin:
The only fault i've found so far.Waxed the hell out of it.Rained.Reversed out of drive with drivers window open (to clear the outside rain droplets).Quick 90 degree forward right turn and whoosh!.All the nicely wax collected rain droplets on the roof poured into the car,over the door controls and my arm.Won't do that again. :angry:
Yeah, you only ever do that once. :laugh: Still remember the soaking I got on that one time.
You only have to watch the deluge of water from the waxed roof cascading down your windscreen as you pull forward to know that having a window open can only end in a soaking. :wink:
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:rolleyes:I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
That doesn't sound right mate. To lock mine I just waft my hand in front of the sensor, same as unlocking. Though the 2 seconds you're supposed to have to check that the door is locked (as per manual - user, not gearbox!) doesn't seem to exist.
Same here. No digging nail into the slot, just glide hand past the sensor and that's it.
I LOVE keyless, and agree, keyless and e-handbrake, especially Autohold function and brilliant features.
Course there's some dinosaur's on here that will find any excuse to pooh-pooh it. :whistle: :grin:
The only fault i've found so far.Waxed the hell out of it.Rained.Reversed out of drive with drivers window open (to clear the outside rain droplets).Quick 90 degree forward right turn and whoosh!.All the nicely wax collected rain droplets on the roof poured into the car,over the door controls and my arm.Won't do that again. :angry:
Yeah, you only ever do that once. :laugh:
There should be a (warning) bit in the handbook about that. :smiley:
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There should be a (warning) bit in the handbook about that. :smiley:
In the "Handbook"? What good would that be :laugh:
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:rolleyes:I love my keyless.To lock it i find that rather than just put my thumb over the slot,like when you unlock it.I have to put my nail into it. :huh:
That along with the electronic handbrake are 2 of my favourite useful gadgets. :smiley:
That doesn't sound right mate. To lock mine I just waft my hand in front of the sensor, same as unlocking. Though the 2 seconds you're supposed to have to check that the door is locked (as per manual - user, not gearbox!) doesn't seem to exist.
Same here. No digging nail into the slot, just glide hand past the sensor and that's it.
I LOVE keyless, and agree, keyless and e-handbrake, especially Autohold function and brilliant features.
Course there's some dinosaur's on here that will find any excuse to pooh-pooh it. :whistle: :grin:
The only fault i've found so far.Waxed the hell out of it.Rained.Reversed out of drive with drivers window open (to clear the outside rain droplets).Quick 90 degree forward right turn and whoosh!.All the nicely wax collected rain droplets on the roof poured into the car,over the door controls and my arm.Won't do that again. :angry:
Yeah, you only ever do that once. :laugh:
There should be a (warning) bit in the handbook about that. :smiley:
There's a handbook?!?! :grin: