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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: DorsetDC on 17 July 2015, 21:40
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I'm thinking of trading up from my GTI PP to an R and, although I know you don't buy an R for its economy, can R owners give me an idea of the real comsumption figures with everyday use. On a 200 mile run yesterday in the GTI following the holiday traffic in the West Country I managed 39mpg. How does the R compare with similar driving?
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I'm thinking of trading up from my GTI PP to an R and, although I know you don't buy an R for its economy, can R owners give me an idea of the real comsumption figures with everyday use. On a 200 mile run yesterday in the GTI following the holiday traffic in the West Country I managed 39mpg. How does the R compare with similar driving?
"Similar driving" is subjective - what was the cruising speed you were aiming for when not in average speed camera zones or traffic etc? On my 20 mile commute, about 1/2 of it is doing 50-60mph and the other 1/2 is at 80mph. In this weather we're experiencing right now, i'm averaging 32mpg. The 60mph leg would likely be achieving 36-37mpg, the 80mph stretch is more like 28mpg. I'm guessing that on a really long journey maintaining 80mph, I might get between 30 and 32mpg, maintaining 70mph it will be more like 36mpg.
I haven't yet cracked 1900 miles, but Shell Momentum 99 is my preferred fuel, Essoo wasn't nice at all, and a close second to Tesco's finest is Shell V-power Nitro.
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Mines still got less than 1k on the clock so this might not be a true reading long term.
Mk7 GTI PP had 31 mpg average on the MFD generally, whilst running 95 RON and the R is showing 26mpg running Tesco Momentum.
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I ran both my GTI (remapped) and R on V power. The MFD on the GTI was around 32-33mpg, and yeah I could manage 40mpg on a run. The R has an average of 27-28mpg long term and can manage 33-34mpg on a run if I'm very careful.
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Thanks for the response which has been very useful. One thing that has been brought to mind is the use of premium fuel. As I live in darkest Dorset my nearest garage selling premium (Texaco) is 20 miles away and Tesco a further 6 miles on. I've used 95 RON in my GTI without any problems. Does the R have problems with the lower grade fuel?
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Thanks for the response which has been very useful. One thing that has been brought to mind is the use of premium fuel. As I live in darkest Dorset my nearest garage selling premium (Texaco) is 20 miles away and Tesco a further 6 miles on. I've used 95 RON in my GTI without any problems. Does the R have problems with the lower grade fuel?
The R doesn't run on 95RON fuel. It's optimised for minimum 98 or above. What part of Dorset are you from? I grew up in Dorchester many moons ago.
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Thanks for the response which has been very useful. One thing that has been brought to mind is the use of premium fuel. As I live in darkest Dorset my nearest garage selling premium (Texaco) is 20 miles away and Tesco a further 6 miles on. I've used 95 RON in my GTI without any problems. Does the R have problems with the lower grade fuel?
The R doesn't run on 95RON fuel. It's optimised for minimum 98 or above. What part of Dorset are you from? I grew up in Dorchester many moons ago.
Nonsense. If that were the case I'd be in bother because you can't get 98RON anywhere in Ireland!
The R will run all day long on 95Ron. Sure, it's "optimised" for 98 but it'll run on the lower octane no problem... If it didn't, VW wouldn't market it here, nor would BMW / Audi market their high performance cars.
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Thanks for the response which has been very useful. One thing that has been brought to mind is the use of premium fuel. As I live in darkest Dorset my nearest garage selling premium (Texaco) is 20 miles away and Tesco a further 6 miles on. I've used 95 RON in my GTI without any problems. Does the R have problems with the lower grade fuel?
The R doesn't run on 95RON fuel. It's optimised for minimum 98 or above. What part of Dorset are you from? I grew up in Dorchester many moons ago.
Nonsense. If that were the case I'd be in bother because you can't get 98RON anywhere in Ireland!
The R will run all day long on 95Ron. Sure, it's "optimised" for 98 but it'll run on the lower octane no problem... If it didn't, VW wouldn't market it here, nor would BMW / Audi market their high performance cars.
I wouldn't call it nonsense.....
The ECU will be optimised for 98RON and above, if you can't get it in Ireland I'm sure they have pulled timing back along with power to compensate.
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I would say 30mpg was a real world figure. Mine has has done 4500 miles now and I have just spent the last week in Cornwall and did foolishly think I might get a little bit more but I was I was lugging this around
Full of camping gear !! It doesn't seem to make any difference what I do. Rag it like I stole it or drive it like a vicar 30mpg seem to be the constant. I have run it totally on Shell V Power Nitro since day 1.
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Go for it. You know you want to !!
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Lol JB I have the same issue. I can do whatever I want to mine and literally makes no difference to fuel economy over a tank. The best I managed was a 300mile run to Lowestoft from Dorchester at night with the ACC set at 70 because I was tired. I managed 34.5mpg.
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... The R has an average of 27-28mpg long term and can manage 33-34mpg on a run if I'm very careful.
Agree with this.
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Just got back from Hartlepool - 35 miles, maintaining 80mph up the A19 for most of the journey. The car was doing a steady 28mpg doing 80, once driving through the town's 30/40 roads, I saw some recovery in mpg up to the endpoint of 30.5mpg.
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My prev. Golf is a remapped MK 6 GTI. It can easily do 340miles without much effort. With my bog standard R, I struggle with 320miles after each fill-up even my car had already done 13000miles. I spend most time in eco mode with the odd time in RACE. I never use normal and I leave the stop-start on all the time. I also find the car use less petrol following a micra/i10 in town then doing 80+mph on a private motorway. My very best I can squeeze out of my R is around 36.8mpg/360miles when I had to fill up again with Shell superunleaded.
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I did my regular Sunday economy run (taxi service for sons) on rural 40 and NSL roads today.
My 8v old skool GTI does 40mpg on that run.
My MK7 GTI between 36 - 39 mpg depending on what mood it was in.
Nice sunny day and stuck behind a dawdling Toyota granny mobile on the way back I got 33mpg average.
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... The R has an average of 27-28mpg long term and can manage 33-34mpg on a run if I'm very careful.
Agree with this.
I'm exactly the same as this as well in my R. I use Tesco Momentum 99. As an aside, the R will run on 95 (obviously) but on the cap VW suggest 98 or higher. Tesco 99 gives the best fuel consumption and power IMO, and I've tested all the higher octane fuels.
GTI figures: I used to get 32 long term, 38 on a run if careful.
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No opportunity to put my foot down today, so it was nun-like driving, following the herd. 19C ambient temp, aircon on 18C with recycle and it was 36mpg on my 20 mile commute home.
32mpg is far more fun though.
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Just back from trip to Wales,38mpg very happy with that.
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I got this travelling home to middlesbrough from lincoln, sitting at 75/80 on the motorway with b roads sitting at 60. Around 120 miles on the A1 / A19 and 30 on the A17. (http://i58.tinypic.com/2ilkkrs.jpg)
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I never get this kind of consumption :grin:
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I never get this kind of consumption :grin:
Likewise!
My R has now passed the 1000 mile mark and I'm starting to explore what it can do a bit more now.
Have any other R owners noticed a tendency for the inner rear wheel to brake on a fast but sharp corner, almost like the car is using that wheel as a pivot rather than powering the car around? These are the sort of corners the PP GTI would just dig in and blast round but the R seems less happy.
No, I'm not going to blame the Bridgestones!!! :laugh:
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There's a good lease deal on Scirocco Rs at the moment (not looking to change - the Scirocco is getting a bit long in a tooth for me), and I was surprised to see that a 280ps 2WD Scirocco comes in at 11% thirstier than a 4WD Golf R.
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I never get this kind of consumption :grin:
Likewise!
My R has now passed the 1000 mile mark and I'm starting to explore what it can do a bit more now.
Have any other R owners noticed a tendency for the inner rear wheel to brake on a fast but sharp corner, almost like the car is using that wheel as a pivot rather than powering the car around? These are the sort of corners the PP GTI would just dig in and blast round but the R seems less happy.
No, I'm not going to blame the Bridgestones!!! :laugh:
You know they are the culprit! :evil: Time you marked the 1k mile anniversary with a nice set of PSS! :tongue:
If I end up getting 27- 28 mpg average with mine, I will be very happy. I just about scrape that with my GTI. :whistle:
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how do you get that low on your GTI Memsahib B? Do you hammer it everywhere in Sport mode or are you forever sat at traffic lights with your immaculately manicured fingernail inserted into your left nostril? (The ONLY reasons anyone would buy an automatic gearbox) :laugh:
Unfortunately I'm far too poor to invest in shiny new French rubber so I'll have to make do.
Car insurance looming too (not cheap with teenage sons insured to drive my elderly GTI).
Besides if I was going to invest in new rubber I'd end up buying new wheels too and I've been working hard these last few years to break my bad old habits. I've still got my 19's off the GTI sat in the garage shod with Contis that might make an appearance one day.
I'm going to keep well away from tyre threads to keep temptation well out of my way!
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how do you get that low on your GTI Memsahib B? Do you hammer it everywhere in Sport mode or are you forever sat at traffic lights with your immaculately manicured fingernail inserted into your left nostril? (The ONLY reasons anyone would buy an automatic gearbox) :laugh:
Unfortunately I'm far too poor to invest in shiny new French rubber so I'll have to make do.
Car insurance looming too (not cheap with teenage sons insured to drive my elderly GTI).
Besides if I was going to invest in new rubber I'd end up buying new wheels too and I've been working hard these last few years to break my bad old habits. I've still got my 19's off the GTI sat in the garage shod with Contis that might make an appearance one day.
I'm going to keep well away from tyre threads to keep temptation well out of my way!
Well let's just say I just drive my GTI properly! :tongue: (but, yes, there are many, many traffic lights in my life!)
I can confirm that I neither pick my nose, nor have perfectly manicured fingernails (detailing and long nails are not a match made in heaven). But you have given me an insight into what you might do with your spare fingers, should you ever (God forbid) move over to the Darkness that is DSG. :laugh:
As you are nobly trying to wean yourself off shiny new alloy and quality rubber, I will cease to put temptation in your way, but do stay away from the rubber threads, lest you fall off the wagon!! :cry:
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how do you get that low on your GTI Memsahib B? Do you hammer it everywhere in Sport mode or are you forever sat at traffic lights with your immaculately manicured fingernail inserted into your left nostril? (The ONLY reasons anyone would buy an automatic gearbox) :laugh:
Unfortunately I'm far too poor to invest in shiny new French rubber so I'll have to make do.
Car insurance looming too (not cheap with teenage sons insured to drive my elderly GTI).
Besides if I was going to invest in new rubber I'd end up buying new wheels too and I've been working hard these last few years to break my bad old habits. I've still got my 19's off the GTI sat in the garage shod with Contis that might make an appearance one day.
I'm going to keep well away from tyre threads to keep temptation well out of my way!
Well let's just say I just drive my GTI properly! :tongue: (but, yes, there are many, many traffic lights in my life!)
I can confirm that I neither pick my nose, nor have perfectly manicured fingernails (detailing and long nails are not a match made in heaven). But you have given me an insight into what you might do with your spare fingers, should you ever (God forbid) move over to the Darkness that is DSG. :laugh:
As you are nobly trying to wean yourself off shiny new alloy and quality rubber, I will cease to put temptation in your way, but do stay away from the rubber threads, lest you fall off the wagon!! :cry:
Based on your GTI average I would suggest it will be closer to 21-22mpg
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^^
27-28mpg is what I get around town but it does creep upwards to the mid 30's elsewhere. Canterbury is a very congested small city so there is a lot of time spent sitting in static traffic, but nor do I drive like a nun. And of course that's in a Mk6.
Yes, obviously I am expecting lower with the R than my GTI average, somewhere in the region of 23-24mpg for town driving I expect, and something like 27-28+ for longer runs, once it's got a few miles on the clock.
Tbh, the mpg is not a concern. :smiley: