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Title: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 10 January 2015, 14:01
Afternoon all,
I was hoping for some advice. On the hunt for a mk6 GTi and trying to unravel the adverts.
Took a lovely example out yesterday that had the "bulb out" light on. Been told its had LED lights upgrade per the later model. Is this a standard mod? Easy enough to sort the computer to get rid of the dash light?
Also been told it's around £170 to get the rear parking sensors installed. That sound about right?
Are there some common faults on the Mk6 dsg I need to look out for?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: J400uk on 10 January 2015, 15:24
Not too sure on the LED lights, I've seen them retrofitted successfully to a lot of early GTIs, so I can't imagine it would be a problem.

Parking sensor price sounds about right however it depends what you're fitting. An aftermarket kit will be cheaper than getting the painted VW sensors and OPS kit.

DSG 'box is excellent but make sure its had oil changes every 40k miles otherwise be wary and budget to do it immediately.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 10 January 2015, 21:14
Retro fitting LED rear lights requires some coding to avoid getting the bulb out warning message. Coding can be a bit hit and miss as cars have different BCMs so are configured differently. Someone that knows what they are doing with VCDS ought to be able to sort it out.

£170 for parking sensors sounds like they will be the VW accessory ones. They don't fit flush like the factory ones, so can look a bit cheap and nasty to those in the know.






























Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: golfhappy on 10 January 2015, 22:00
Afternoon all,
I was hoping for some advice. On the hunt for a mk6 GTi and trying to unravel the adverts.
Took a lovely example out yesterday that had the "bulb out" light on. Been told its had LED lights upgrade per the later model. Is this a standard mod? Easy enough to sort the computer to get rid of the dash light?
Also been told it's around £170 to get the rear parking sensors installed. That sound about right?
Are there some common faults on the Mk6 dsg I need to look out for?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
LD

For the bulb out error on the dash you'll need loads of holy water to throw at it!!! no to be honest someone will have done something which is easily sorted with the correct coding.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: AndyG on 10 January 2015, 22:11
Mine will be for sale in February if your interested.Its a pampered 2011,DSG,white,5 door Gti,winter pack,led front fairy light DRL's with xenon's, rear LED's.It has dynamic chassis control,sat Nav,Tarten interior,unmarked 18"monza shadows with new Goodyear tyres fitted.It has Bluetooth telephone prep,full VWSH and for peace of mind a VW warranty till 23rd March.At present it has done 21200 miles.
I am asking 15.5k.
Like I say it will be going in February as new car arriving 1st march,it really is in top condition no dents,scratches,stone chips or wheel damage.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 11 January 2015, 00:06
Cheers for all the replies!
Sounds like the lights wouldn't be an issue and will make sure I get the proper sensors should i fell the need. Waiting for the dealer to come back to me regarding the gearbox oil. Thanks for that heads up!
AndyG, is it the DCC that allows you to switch between comfort/sport suspension setups? Sounds like a contender.
Cheers again. Always good to find forum where people know there stuff!
LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Exonian on 11 January 2015, 03:10
What age was the car? My first mk6 was one of the very first GTI's on an 09 plate and the bulb warning didn't go out no matter what so a new BCM would have been needed.
The lights still worked fine, it was just an annoyance.
Later cars than this should be easily coded out with VCDS
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: AndyG on 11 January 2015, 07:41
Your correct,you can choose comfort,normal or sport.It sharpens or relaxes the suspension and steering.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 12 January 2015, 11:49
What age was the car? My first mk6 was one of the very first GTI's on an 09 plate and the bulb warning didn't go out no matter what so a new BCM would have been needed.
The lights still worked fine, it was just an annoyance.
Later cars than this should be easily coded out with VCDS

It is a 59 reg car. If I can't get the light to go out there's always electric tape!
This is the young lady that's caught my eye:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201412159650313/usedcars?logcode=visc (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201412159650313/usedcars?logcode=visc)
Not the greatest description but has got DCC, which isn't mentioned. Zero parking aids tho...not that I need any of course!  :cool:
Went for a spin on Friday and was properly impressed. 1st GTi I've driven and very, very pleasantly surprised. Because comparisons have all said how tame it is compared to the RS Megane and Focus ST I was expecting something quite tame. What these reviews don't say is how much better it is compared to standard cars. Lovely exhaust note, addictive bark changing down gears, and just a nice place to be sat. It's sealed the deal so now it's just a case of finding the right one.
Anyone in the market for a 4WD V6 Brera?!  :grin:
LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 12 January 2015, 12:06
What age was the car? My first mk6 was one of the very first GTI's on an 09 plate and the bulb warning didn't go out no matter what so a new BCM would have been needed.
The lights still worked fine, it was just an annoyance.
Later cars than this should be easily coded out with VCDS

It is a 59 reg car. If I can't get the light to go out there's always electric tape!
This is the young lady that's caught my eye:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201412159650313/usedcars?logcode=visc (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201412159650313/usedcars?logcode=visc)
Not the greatest description but has got DCC, which isn't mentioned. Zero parking aids tho...not that I need any of course!  :cool:
Went for a spin on Friday and was properly impressed. 1st GTi I've driven and very, very pleasantly surprised. Because comparisons have all said how tame it is compared to the RS Megane and Focus ST I was expecting something quite tame. What these reviews don't say is how much better it is compared to standard cars. Lovely exhaust note, addictive bark changing down gears, and just a nice place to be sat. It's sealed the deal so now it's just a case of finding the right one.
Anyone in the market for a 4WD V6 Brera?!  :grin:
LD


Sounds like you're smitten, hope the right one comes along soon  :smiley:

Not to put you off or anything but there is the timing chain tensioner issue to be aware of which mainly affects some earlier plate gtis.  But to be fully informed read the thread at the top of the mk6 section.  Later cars have the revised tensioner fitted so time will tell how that fares. 
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 12 January 2015, 13:09
cheers Booth,
E-mail sent to the garage! Can't believe how widespread this issue seems to be. I thought those Germans knew how to build a reliable motor. Can't got from Italian to German and get more problems!! (tho it would be just my luck!)
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 14 January 2015, 19:26
Another question!
Been told the car's not got the latest satnav software installed. Is this a big/costly job?
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: gaurav_aidasani on 15 January 2015, 14:03
These cars are generally bullet proof and well built. As mentioned by previous members, timing chain could be an issue on 59/10 plate cars.  % is low compared to the number of GTIs out there imo but I wouldn't risk an engine failure and treat it like a cam belt change. Factor in 300£ ish.

Also rear LEDs are not standard in 59/10 but look the business so would factor in 300 for replicas or 600 for originals (coding required).

In terms of wheels definitely make sure you get 18in, 17 look too tame.
For gearbox I went for manual but DSG is a great box provided its maintained properly!

Updating RNS is straight forward and free if you do it yourself, plenty of how tos on the forum.

Before buying my car I was drooling all over a brera! Same as yours, 4wd with the sweet V6 but then thought I'd be a bit more sensible! But it is one of the prettiest cars and and future classic imo
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 15 January 2015, 16:22
These cars are generally bullet proof and well built. As mentioned by previous members, timing chain could be an issue on 59/10 plate cars.  % is low compared to the number of GTIs out there imo but I wouldn't risk an engine failure and treat it like a cam belt change. Factor in 300£ ish.

Also rear LEDs are not standard in 59/10 but look the business so would factor in 300 for replicas or 600 for originals (coding required).

In terms of wheels definitely make sure you get 18in, 17 look too tame.
For gearbox I went for manual but DSG is a great box provided its maintained properly!

Updating RNS is straight forward and free if you do it yourself, plenty of how tos on the forum.

Before buying my car I was drooling all over a brera! Same as yours, 4wd with the sweet V6 but then thought I'd be a bit more sensible! But it is one of the prettiest cars and and future classic imo

Cheers Gaurav,
I've really struggled to find a replacement for the Brera. The looks just never get old. But the £500 tax bill and 20mpg have worn me down and it's time to get sensible...ish.
Thanks for the advice. Agreed the 18s look far better than 17s and have made sure the garage are going to replace the DSG box oil as part of the sale. LED lights already fitted!
Put in an offer today so just waiting to hear back. Fingers well and truly crossed!!
LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Buck on 19 January 2015, 12:43
Another question!
Been told the car's not got the latest satnav software installed. Is this a big/costly job?

No it's pretty straight forward - I bought some discs off one of th eguys on here and upgraded the firmware and the maps - much better  :cool:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 27 January 2015, 13:20
Hi Gang,

Still looking for that one GTi for me. In the meantime I've got another question. If the car has the Winter Pack it'll have heated seats, but does that mean that if it's got heated seats it has got the Winter Pack? Basically, can they be added separately or are they only available as part of the Winter Pack.

Trying to figure out what's actually on the car from some of the adverts is nigh on impossible! Park assist can mean Parking Sensors, Reverse Camera or, occasionally, the actual Park Assist!!
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: AndyG on 27 January 2015, 14:18
If it's got leather it will have heated seats  but not necessarily the winter pack.If it's got cloth seats which are heated its defffo got the winter pack.heated seats are standard with leather.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 27 January 2015, 14:35
Buying a used car, even from a VW dealer is nothing like buying a new one when it comes to spec. They seem to have little product knowledge and will list whatever comes into there head when they advertise a cars specification.

The winter pack consists of -
1. Heaters Seats (standard with leather)
2. Headlight Washers (standard with xenons) (also don't be fooled by the washer caps on the bumper as all GTI/Ds have them)
3. Low Screen Wash Level Warning Light.

Park Assist is often interpreted in many different ways too. The tell tale signs of proper Park Assist is sensors on the sides of the bumpers pointing at 90 degrees to the kerb and the switch in front of the gear lever with a steering wheel on it.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: JC on 27 January 2015, 18:41
salesman and dealership talked a load of ar$e when i bought mine - i just fell in love with the black heated leather  :evil: but no winter pack  :cry:

Wont EVER be going back to them,  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: J400uk on 27 January 2015, 19:50
Park Assist is often interpreted in many different ways too. The tell tale signs of proper Park Assist is sensors on the sides of the bumpers pointing at 90 degrees to the kerb and the switch in front of the gear lever with a steering wheel on it.

Yep good point. I did quite well with mine as the dealer didn't know it had park assist, but I could tell from the pictures it did due to the extra sensors.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 29 January 2015, 09:30
Yeah, finding myself zooming in on the gear shift to try and figure out which buttons it's got! The GTi I test drove has ACC but the dealer hadn't listed it in the advert. Given how few I've found with it fitted you'd have thought they might have mentioned it!
Best one I've seen listed in an advert is "Chassis"! No?! Really?! It's got one of those?!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Adycakes on 29 January 2015, 11:31
Took me about 7 months to find mine, I had to give up on the search for one with Xenons though, as not many MK6 GTi's have them or at least they didn't when I was looking. So bizarre that Xenon's are an upgrade rather than standard on such a prominent VW, especially when other hatchbacks in it's class have them as standard.

I also found some dealerships would bend over backwards & be extremely helpful, others were just plain awful & unless you wanted a new car & were prepared to splash about 30k you didn't get their attention at all!

Where I got mine from, Alan Day in Hampstead were extremely helpful as were the Stockport branch. The ones local to myself were just awful & not interested in talking to me at all, so strange to get such a different level of service from what is essentially the same company.

Good luck in your search! :)
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 29 January 2015, 16:50
The winter pack consists of -
1. Heaters Seats (standard with leather)
2. Headlight Washers (standard with xenons) (also don't be fooled by the washer caps on the bumper as all GTI/Ds have them)
3. Low Screen Wash Level Warning Light.

So if the car's got Leather seats there's no way to tell if it's got the winter pack by looking at it? Does the Washer Level Warning Light appear on the dash computer or is there a separate light I can look out for?

Anyone had their 18" Monzas refurbed lately? Seen a couple with scuffed alloys. Just wondered how much I can barter off for this!!  :grin:

Cheers yet again!

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 29 January 2015, 19:06
The low washer fluid light should come on when you switch the ignition on and go out soon after if it's there.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Rhyso on 29 January 2015, 20:16
Or you could sit in the car and just wash the windscreen until you empty the reservoir and see if the light appears  :laugh:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 30 January 2015, 08:22
Or you could sit in the car and just wash the windscreen until you empty the reservoir and see if the light appears  :laugh:

I wonder how long it would take to get chucked out if you tried doing that in a new car in the showroom?
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: seabrook132 on 30 January 2015, 10:03
Anyone had their 18" Monzas refurbed lately? Seen a couple with scuffed alloys. Just wondered how much I can barter off for this!!  :grin:

Cheers yet again!

LD

Had mine refurbed at Pristine Wheels in Woburn Sands last April. They did a great job and charged £390 for all four with tyres on and off.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 30 January 2015, 12:01
Cheers Gang,

After a quick look through the forum it sounds like it's not a cheap job getting these alloys refurbed. There's a good looking white GTi up near Burnley with a REVO map and Neuspeed induction kit (sound familiar to anyone on here?!) but the alloys look utterly battered!

Or you could sit in the car and just wash the windscreen until you empty the reservoir and see if the light appears  :laugh:
Haha! Or just spay until the light washer jets pop up!  :grin:

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: AndyG on 30 January 2015, 12:28
There's a mint white one on the "for sale section"now.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 30 January 2015, 12:35
Cheers Gang,

After a quick look through the forum it sounds like it's not a cheap job getting these alloys refurbed. There's a good looking white GTi up near Burnley with a REVO map and Neuspeed induction kit (sound familiar to anyone on here?!) but the alloys look utterly battered!


A decent diamond cut refurb on 18" will be between £70-£80 plus vat per wheel.  Probably can get it done cheaper but what quality job would it be??
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Rgdogg on 30 January 2015, 13:04
Had mine refurbed but thinking of going down the powder coating road, couple of stone chips and the white worm comes back!
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 30 January 2015, 13:12
Had mine refurbed but thinking of going down the powder coating road, couple of stone chips and the white worm comes back!

Don't blame you, cheaper too at around £50-£55 per wheel for a decent powder coating job.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 30 January 2015, 15:02
Powder coating the shiny parts is never going to have the same finish as diamond cut which would put me off that idea. I'd rather put a nice set of BBS or VW Rotary wheels on if I didn't fancy diamond cut again.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 30 January 2015, 15:23
Powder coating the shiny parts is never going to have the same finish as diamond cut which would put me off that idea. I'd rather put a nice set of BBS or VW Rotary wheels on if I didn't fancy diamond cut again.

Well no it isn't, if you want the exact same finish then that would require refurb back to a diamond cut finish.  I think it depends on the style and design of alloys whether they will look ok powder coated or not.   But at least it's an alternative for those sick of whiteworm, worried about it reappearing after refurb, and don't want to shell out for another set of wheels. 

Having seen the recent examples of the VW Rotary's on here, I agree.  If the Monza Shadows are really mashed, ditch them and go for the Rotary's.  How much are they a set anyway?
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 31 January 2015, 12:33
I think they retail at something like £1200 a set. I'll have a word with my man at TPS and see what sort of deal he can do.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 31 January 2015, 19:12
I think they retail at something like £1200 a set. I'll have a word with my man at TPS and see what sort of deal he can do.

Yeah, £300 a piece on vw website.  Would you just run them as winters?  Not fancy a change throughout the warmer months?
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 02 February 2015, 13:52
There's a mint white one on the "for sale section"now.
Haha, nice one. Cheers Andy. Unfortunately it's a little too rich for my meagre budget. Been somewhat harpooned by the lower-than-expected trade-in price I've been offered for the Brera. Means I'm scouring the internet for a nice GTi in the £13k-£14k range, which is made harder by my search criteria!

Now I'm trying my best to decide which gadgets I want most. Do I go for a GTi with ACC but no other options over a GTi without ACC but packed with parking sensors, a sunroof and a reverse camera?  :shocked: :undecided:

Thanks yet again for all the advice! Really appreciated!

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 02 February 2015, 14:03
if you can wait till summer, mine'll be available, might be beyond your budget though   :wink:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 02 February 2015, 14:57
if you can wait till summer, mine'll be available, might be beyond your budget though   :wink:

Looks like I'm buying at the right time! Everyone's selling their mk6 for a mk7!

Here's a question that's massively subjective but it'd be interested to get your thoughts:
Assuming no difference in cost, would people rather have the ACC or a Reverse Camera?
-far easier to retrofit the camera if I really wanted both
-would I even miss the camera if I had parking sensors
-camera will always get used while the novelty of playing with the ACC may wear off.
-I do enough long journeys to make use of the ACC "Comfort" setting
-Am I really that good enough of a driver to make use of the "Sport" setting...or is it all in my mind!  :tongue:
-having a camera pop out from under the badge is just plain cool  :cool: (and just a little James Bond)

Can you tell I've been mulling this over for a while now?!  :undecided:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 02 February 2015, 14:57
Yeah, £300 a piece on vw website.  Would you just run them as winters?  Not fancy a change throughout the warmer months?

Who me?

I'd thought about getting a set of winters for the Golf to keep the Vancouvers pristine, but to be honest since starting cycling again last year I've lost all interest in cars. Even my Mk2. I can't see that going to many more shows as time taken getting it ready will be taking up valuable lycra wearing time.  :grin:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 02 February 2015, 15:02

Assuming no difference in cost, would people rather have the ACC or a Reverse Camera?


I'd go for ACC then retro fit the camera if you really want one. I'm not sure they are all that necessary in a car as small as the Golf tho'. Useful for reversing under a trailer hitch if you are towing, but other than that it's more of a novelty.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Ormy72 on 02 February 2015, 15:03
Quote from: Booth11 on Today at 14:03
if you can wait till summer, mine'll be available, might be beyond your budget though   :wink:

Looks like I'm buying at the right time! Everyone's selling their mk6 for a mk7!

Here's a question that's massively subjective but it'd be interested to get your thoughts:
Assuming no difference in cost, would people rather have the ACC or a Reverse Camera?
-far easier to retrofit the camera if I really wanted both
-would I even miss the camera if I had parking sensors
-camera will always get used while the novelty of playing with the ACC may wear off.
-I do enough long journeys to make use of the ACC "Comfort" setting
-Am I really that good enough of a driver to make use of the "Sport" setting...or is it all in my mind!  :tongue:
-having a camera pop out from under the badge is just plain cool  :cool: (and just a little James Bond)

Can you tell I've been mulling this over for a while now?!  :undecided:

Would do without the Camera for ACC
Camera is fitted to my car and I could easily do without it.
It's a four door hatch not that hard to park.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 02 February 2015, 15:26
if you can wait till summer, mine'll be available, might be beyond your budget though   :wink:

Looks like I'm buying at the right time! Everyone's selling their mk6 for a mk7!

Here's a question that's massively subjective but it'd be interested to get your thoughts:
Assuming no difference in cost, would people rather have the ACC or a Reverse Camera?
-far easier to retrofit the camera if I really wanted both
-would I even miss the camera if I had parking sensors
-camera will always get used while the novelty of playing with the ACC may wear off.
-I do enough long journeys to make use of the ACC "Comfort" setting
-Am I really that good enough of a driver to make use of the "Sport" setting...or is it all in my mind!  :tongue:
-having a camera pop out from under the badge is just plain cool  :cool: (and just a little James Bond)

Can you tell I've been mulling this over for a while now?!  :undecided:

ACC without a doubt.  Who really needs a reversing camera, or parking sensors for that matter.  Didn't spec either on my mk6 and never wished I'd had them.  Only reason I've specced it on the R is it's cheap option and something pretty to look at on the media screen.

Mine has ACC  :wink:  :whistle:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 02 February 2015, 16:07
Yeah, £300 a piece on vw website.  Would you just run them as winters?  Not fancy a change throughout the warmer months?

Who me?

I'd thought about getting a set of winters for the Golf to keep the Vancouvers pristine, but to be honest since starting cycling again last year I've lost all interest in cars. Even my Mk2. I can't see that going to many more shows as time taken getting it ready will be taking up valuable lycra wearing time.  :grin:

Yes, you

Ahh the lure of lycra!  Sounds like you've been well and truly bitten by the cycling bug, a leisure interest that can get almost as expensive as cars  :wink:  Can we assume you now shave your legs every week  :grin:

Did you do your first road race yet, how did you get on?

Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 02 February 2015, 16:52
No need for leg shaving at this time of year, not when I'm wearing tights.  :grin:

I'm not doing any racing, but did a lumpy 100K sportive last year in a smidge over 4.5 hours and have signed up for 3 more similar events this year. I'm focusing on trying to increase my distances, but it's hard work around here as everywhere you look there are hills.

I can't see me getting any faster. Being 45 I'm probably as quick as I'm going to get. It's a case of maintaining what bit of fitness I have gained over the last year.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 02 February 2015, 18:08
No need for leg shaving at this time of year, not when I'm wearing tights.  :grin:

I'm not doing any racing, but did a lumpy 100K sportive last year in a smidge over 4.5 hours and have signed up for 3 more similar events this year. I'm focusing on trying to increase my distances, but it's hard work around here as everywhere you look there are hills.

I can't see me getting any faster. Being 45 I'm probably as quick as I'm going to get. It's a case of maintaining what bit of fitness I have gained over the last year.

Men in tights!

Must be enjoying it if you've signed up for three more.  Stamina important for road events, especially those hills.

When I used to time trial (25 milers) it was purely speed.  Best time was 1hr 4 mins.  I'm tempted to go out for a similar run now just to see how much slower I'd be now being being nearly triple the age I was then  :grin:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 03 February 2015, 15:06
Oh no!
I've just done something really bad...
   ...in my search to find a GTi I made the mistake of pricing up a Golf R!

Having a hard time finding a DSG GTi with ACC...then I happened across some very nice looking Rs that tick all my boxes...and for just £153 per month more! Can you believe it's actually £25 a year cheaper to insure the R over the GTi?! 

Is the R worth the extra £5k or do I buy a GTi and get it remapped?!  :evil: :evil:

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 03 February 2015, 16:26
When I used to time trial (25 milers) it was purely speed.  Best time was 1hr 4 mins.  I'm tempted to go out for a similar run now just to see how much slower I'd be now being being nearly triple the age I was then  :grin:

My Garmin Edge records my fastest 40KM (24.9 miles). My best time considering the hills is 1hr 26mins, so I'm a good way off your peak. Having said that, I need to keep sufficient in reserve for the rest of the ride.


Is the R worth the extra £5k or do I buy a GTi and get it remapped?!  :evil: :evil:


Buy the .:R and get that mapped
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 03 February 2015, 18:17
Oh no!
I've just done something really bad...
   ...in my search to find a GTi I made the mistake of pricing up a Golf R!

Having a hard time finding a DSG GTi with ACC...then I happened across some very nice looking Rs that tick all my boxes...and for just £153 per month more! Can you believe it's actually £25 a year cheaper to insure the R over the GTi?! 

Is the R worth the extra £5k or do I buy a GTi and get it remapped?!  :evil: :evil:

LD.

Go for the R.  A great, very mappable turbo, and still better looking than the its mk7 successor  :smiley:

My Garmin Edge records my fastest 40KM (24.9 miles). My best time considering the hills is 1hr 26mins, so I'm a good way off your peak. Having said that, I need to keep sufficient in reserve for the rest of the ride.

That's pretty good going considering the hills (and your age :grin:)

My peak was a long, long time ago, involved regular proper training, and that time was on a flat course in Lancashire, a place largely devoid of hills.  Made for a rapid but boring ride.  Did quite a few 25ers in Wiltshire and Somerset which has it's fair share of hills. 

Also have a Garmin Edge 500, great bit of kit, very customisable.  Other must have piece of kit for deep winter is a turbo trainer, we have a road bike permanently set up on ours.  Bit different from the days when I used to use a set of rollers in the kitchen.  A momentary lapse of concentration and you'd be on the floor  :grin:  Don't get much time for proper cycling now, too busy messing with the car.

Sorry for thread hijack lazyeedude, but at least we're talking about things with wheels  :wink:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: charlie on 03 February 2015, 22:26
I've had acc and reversing camera and the acc is a must in my humble opinion and keep talking bikes I'm enjoying it  :laugh:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 03 February 2015, 23:19
I've had acc and reversing camera and the acc is a must in my humble opinion and keep talking bikes I'm enjoying it  :D

 :D  Getting out on yours much charlie?

Having a hard time finding a DSG GTi with ACC...

Forget the R.

May I introduce you to my (soon to be for sale) car.....DSG GTi with ACC ;)   >:D

vvv
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: charlie on 03 February 2015, 23:26
It's on the turbo booth at the mo used my 29er a few times day off today back to sufferland tomorrow  :laugh:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 04 February 2015, 08:29
Rebecca and Charlie, step this way... www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=272385.0
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 04 February 2015, 08:51
Rebecca and Charlie, step this way... www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=272385.0

Wise move, see you over there later...

Work beckons now!
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 04 February 2015, 09:55
Sorry for thread hijack lazyeedude, but at least we're talking about things with wheels  :wink:

Don't you worry at all, Booth. A price I'm more than willing to pay for the shed load of advice I've been getting. Can't thank you all enough. Been invaluable deciphering all the jargon and 1,000,001 different specs, upgrades and options!!

It's looking like I may have to go through the trials of selling the Brera privately. There are zero GTis I can find with DSG and ACC at a garage for around the £14k mark. (tho most dealers have no idea what ACC is so won't have listed it, but I've gotten good at going all Sherlock on their pics!!)

Now I've got to get back to repeating my mantra, "I can't afford an R, I can't afford an R, I can't afford an R, I probably could possibly afford an R, NO, I can't afford an R"  :grin:

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 04 February 2015, 12:02
Sorry for thread hijack lazyeedude, but at least we're talking about things with wheels  :wink:

Don't you worry at all, Booth. A price I'm more than willing to pay for the shed load of advice I've been getting. Can't thank you all enough. Been invaluable deciphering all the jargon and 1,000,001 different specs, upgrades and options!!

It's looking like I may have to go through the trials of selling the Brera privately. There are zero GTis I can find with DSG and ACC at a garage for around the £14k mark. (tho most dealers have no idea what ACC is so won't have listed it, but I've gotten good at going all Sherlock on their pics!!)

Now I've got to get back to repeating my mantra, "I can't afford an R, I can't afford an R, I can't afford an R, I probably could possibly afford an R, NO, I can't afford an R"  :grin:

LD

 :grin: :grin:

Keep searching, It'll be out there somewhere  :smiley:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Snoopy on 04 February 2015, 22:39
Imo get an R
ACC is an option I still sometimes wish I had got.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 17 February 2015, 12:01
Hey Hey Kids,

Yup, still looking!

Wanted to get your opinion on mileage. I know this is massively subjective, but 84,000mi seems a lot on a 6yr old car. Is this approaching a big, expensive service? Does the mk6 handle the miles well?

I know it's a Golf so they're generally as good at 80,000 as they are at 8,000, but I just wanted to get opinions. The car I found is packed with options but the high mileage and a fairly bargainous price tag do make me worry.

Thanks yet again for any help you can offer!

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: J400uk on 17 February 2015, 18:32
I wouldn't worry about the miles if its been well looked after.

A car that's done high motorway mileage can be a better buy than one that's done low mileage doing short runs around town and never warmed up properly.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Poached on 17 February 2015, 20:30
84k in 6 years is fine, buy on condition...seat bolsters may show 'slight' wear and the bonnet might have some more chips but you can factor this in on the budget.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 17 February 2015, 21:49
I would say service history and condition is more important than mileage. Has it got fvsh?
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 18 February 2015, 09:51
I would say service history and condition is more important than mileage. Has it got fvsh?

Yeah, full VW service history. Got suede/leather seats. Not seen those before on a GTi.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 18 February 2015, 10:19
I would say service history and condition is more important than mileage. Has it got fvsh?

Yeah, full VW service history. Got suede/leather seats. Not seen those before on a GTi.

Maybe Irish origin?  Think that option was available there.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: dubber36 on 18 February 2015, 10:28
Cars will do huge mileage these days, but people still get put off by that.

When I was looking for my Passat I looked at one with every possible option. It was a lovely car in great condition, but it had done 65,000 miles in 18 months. It wasn't that which put me off as such, it was the fact that by now it would have done over 100,000 miles and by the time I came to sell it even more. That would greatly reduce it's value and leave me with more money to find to change. If the car had been cheap to begin with it might not have mattered, but because of the spec the dealers were expecting a premium price.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 18 February 2015, 15:00
Cars will do huge mileage these days, but people still get put off by that.

When I was looking for my Passat I looked at one with every possible option. It was a lovely car in great condition, but it had done 65,000 miles in 18 months. It wasn't that which put me off as such, it was the fact that by now it would have done over 100,000 miles and by the time I came to sell it even more. That would greatly reduce it's value and leave me with more money to find to change. If the car had been cheap to begin with it might not have mattered, but because of the spec the dealers were expecting a premium price.

Yeah but 65,000 in 18 months is a bit different to 84,000 in 6 years.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Richie.27 on 19 February 2015, 16:12
My ED35 will be up for sale soon if you're interested. Along with 19"glendales there's everything you could want in a car. Sat nav, dcc front and rear parking aid, full leather, c quartz paint protection etc. beautiful car. Full vwsh and just turned on to the 20,000 mile mark, so low mileage. The next service is due in 100 days and it will be free with the car.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 20 February 2015, 08:02
My ED35 will be up for sale soon if you're interested. Along with 19"glendales there's everything you could want in a car. Sat nav, dcc front and rear parking aid, full leather, c quartz paint protection etc. beautiful car. Full vwsh and just turned on to the 20,000 mile mark, so low mileage. The next service is due in 100 days and it will be free with the car.

Haha, definitely interested, Richie, but have a feeling it might be a smidge outside my budget! Best of luck though.

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 10 March 2015, 11:37
A question for the connoisseurs:

On Autotrader there's currently a Golf R (11reg) with 65,000mi...or an ED35 (62reg) with 20,000mi, both for £20k.

Both very well kitted out. Only really the ACC and obvious power difference to separate them. So which do you choose??

Love the ED35 alloys over the R's. Plus it's got a touch more subtlety. But there is the small matter of that 34bhp, the ACC and the 4WD.

Be interested to see how this swings.

LD
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: charlie on 10 March 2015, 17:22
ACC for me is a must (bad back) if the cars aren't to far apart go check them out because condition would be my next big question on the list. If you want an r they are priced at about £22k for one with less miles so a bit of bartering might get it down close to the ed 35  :evil:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: Booth11 on 10 March 2015, 18:56
This is a tough choice really.  ED35 the rarer choice but the mk6 R produced in relatively low numbers too. 34bhp difference but you could acheive that by mapping the ED35.  4WD - more planted but probably less fun to drive.  1st generation ACC - nice to have if it's on 19" alloys but imo definitely not crucial and even less so with 18s.  Full VWSH on both?

As charlie suggests you really should see them the flesh and drive both.  Condition could be the clincher.
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: GS WAX on 11 March 2015, 18:49
A question for the connoisseurs:

On Autotrader there's currently a Golf R (11reg) with 65,000mi...or an ED35 (62reg) with 20,000mi, both for £20k.

Both very well kitted out. Only really the ACC and obvious power difference to separate them. So which do you choose??

Love the ED35 alloys over the R's. Plus it's got a touch more subtlety. But there is the small matter of that 34bhp, the ACC and the 4WD.

Be interested to see how this swings.

LD

Or you could have my ED35.....  Best of both woorlds  :smiley:http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=272679.msg2495381#msg2495381

with selectable Revo performance modes it will make more power than the std R, has the rarity value, plus has the Best suspension for a Golf money can buy, Ohlins Road and Track  coilovers, much better than ACC and is more comfortable than a Golf GT, and once firmed up will handle better and be less crashy than stock.
The mods have been chosen to make what I think the GTI should have been like from the factory, with all the lightweight Audi aluminium suspension components aswell.
sales pitch over :grin:
Title: Re: Searching for the right mk6
Post by: layzeedude on 12 March 2015, 16:44
A question for the connoisseurs:

On Autotrader there's currently a Golf R (11reg) with 65,000mi...or an ED35 (62reg) with 20,000mi, both for £20k.

Both very well kitted out. Only really the ACC and obvious power difference to separate them. So which do you choose??

Love the ED35 alloys over the R's. Plus it's got a touch more subtlety. But there is the small matter of that 34bhp, the ACC and the 4WD.

Be interested to see how this swings.

LD

Or you could have my ED35.....  Best of both woorlds  :smiley: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=272679.msg2495381#msg2495381

with selectable Revo performance modes it will make more power than the std R, has the rarity value, plus has the Best suspension for a Golf money can buy, Ohlins Road and Track  coilovers, much better than ACC and is more comfortable than a Golf GT, and once firmed up will handle better and be less crashy than stock.
The mods have been chosen to make what I think the GTI should have been like from the factory, with all the lightweight Audi aluminium suspension components aswell.
sales pitch over :grin:

Haha, cheers for the offer GS, but I'm going for a part-ex. Really can't be doing with selling the Brera private and WeScamEverySap.com can take a hike.

Unfortunately the R is a 2hr+ drive away in Huddersfield whereas the ED35 is just 10mins away on the other side of Coventry! I'm thinking test drive on Friday afternoon.

(just to add to my dilemma I've spied a nicely spec'd GTi for £13,500...but that's 2hrs the other way in sodding Essex!)

Cheers for the replies kids!

LD