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General => General discussion => Topic started by: tweed on 25 July 2014, 15:59
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http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/66987 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/66987)
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Please move this to off topic
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Signed.
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Think of us bikers having to ride on this sh!te too! Signed.
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It's not a cheap way of resurfacing roads, it's means is to protect the existing road surface from the elements while at the same time raises friction values. Yeah there is a tempory inconvenience but the process is much quicker than resurfacing so roads are closed for less time.
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It's not a cheap way of resurfacing roads, it's means is to protect the existing road surface from the elements while at the same time raises friction values. Yeah there is a tempory inconvenience but the process is much quicker than resurfacing so roads are closed for less time.
Yeah that's fantastic.....
Although for us bikers it is an absolute nightmare, it's horrendous to ride on. Especially in the countryside, have to be very careful with throttle and braking else you end up all over the place
No way this stuff should ever be used, too dangerous
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Just be careful then. The loose surface is only temporary anyway. Stops the roads from melting in the summer and cracking due to ice in the winter. Long term it means less pot holes and less wear and tear.
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Just be careful then. The loose surface is only temporary anyway. Stops the roads from melting in the summer and cracking due to ice in the winter. Long term it means less pot holes and less wear and tear.
Buy a new car or get yours resprayed and see if you have the same views on these roads. Its not temporary. The loose stones get flicked up for weeks. My mate got 4 stone chips in his screen from a lorry on the other side and that was after a week!
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Done.
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Buy a new car or get yours resprayed and see if you have the same views on these roads. Its not temporary. The loose stones get flicked up for weeks. My mate got 4 stone chips in his screen from a lorry on the other side and that was after a week!
The positives far outweigh the negatives sadly.
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Buy a new car or get yours resprayed and see if you have the same views on these roads. Its not temporary. The loose stones get flicked up for weeks. My mate got 4 stone chips in his screen from a lorry on the other side and that was after a week!
The positives far outweigh the negatives sadly.
I am sorry but you are an idiot if you think its good and you clearly have no love for you car or you have too much money and don't seem to care how often your car is in a body shop.
For example I recently got my R32 and just yesterday I dropped it off to a body shop to have the front end resprayed due to stone chips, I must add I cannot comment if these were due to these type of roads or weather the previous owner drove it like he stole it which is more than likely the case unfortunately.
We all pay our taxes and pay a stupid and I mean stupid amount of money to TAX our cars.
You do not get this issue in most places aboard, the roads in "most" euro countries are fantastic and rarely ever need repairing and that's due to them using correct materials in the first place the old saying buy cheap buy twice comes to mind.
Its funny how you hardly ever see motorways being resurfaced even though they are the most used roads in the country! funny that! just tells me they are using the correct materials on the motorways but don't give two sh!ts about side/main/back roads.
As for your attitude on the bikers, "be more careful then" you have clearly never ridden a bike, do you even realize how difficult it is? you have to be extremely careful, even riding over a wet leaf can take you off your bike, the white markings in the road can take you off your bike in the wet, riding over horse poo can take you off your bike not to mention stupid dump car drivers that think its funny to move to the middle of the road when they see a biker riding down the middle to get though traffic.
Bikers have a lot to look out for on the road and I do not for one min envy them. I always ensure I help them when I can by ensuring they have enough room to get past, and bikers recognize this and regularly give me a thumbs up.
I am not having a go at you mate or looking for an argument but your short comments aimed to put people down are not working and you clearly have a narrow mind if that is your overall thinking.
Back on topic mind, I have shared this over social media so hopefully will see a positive reaction. :)
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''I am not having a go at you mate or looking for an argument''
Really, you sure about that? As the rest of your post tells me otherwise. Internet ranting is not a good look mate.
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Whilst I don't like tar and loose chippings on the roads, I'm afraid I have come agree with Jamo in seeing that they serve their purpose at the expense of short term inconvenience and only upset a very small section of the countries motorists who like us, take care of our vehicles.
We don't pay road tax, so we can't use that played out argument. We pay an emissions tax and have done for 30 odd years.
It's very rare that if a road is re-surfaced, that there isn't another way that you could go. I'd rather go a few miles out of my way, rather than run the risk of getting stone chips. I'm not one for whinging about things that I know will never change. If I don't like it, I'll make the effort to make sure that it doesn't effect me.
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''I am not having a go at you mate or looking for an argument''
Really, you sure about that? As the rest of your post tells me otherwise. Internet ranting is not a good look mate.
No Jamo, I am not looking for a fight. I just say what Im thinking and id take a guess that most others were also thinking the same.
I personally could not care if feel what I said was out of line, this is a dicussion board and people will generally say what they like, it wasn't a rant at all. Just my point being made.
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Yeah sure, whatever. I think most are quite happy with the current trend of resurfacing though and the petition does not give nearly enough good enough reasons for it even to be considered so it falls at the first hurdle regardless of how many sign it.
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Ok i can see you have made up your mind.
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Complete waste of money, not only do the chippings cause damage and are dangerous for bikers but it also doesn't last long so the road still needs to be resurfaced anyway.
That's the government all over though ain't it. :grin:
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It's here for good, no point moaning about it. The petition is a waste of time.
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What's life without moaning...
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I agree terrible idea hate those bloody stones, they just re-did the road in my village & didn't use them i was very surpised & thankful :grin:
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I agree terrible idea hate those bloody stones, they just re-did the road in my village & didn't use them i was very surpised & thankful :grin:
It's not something that's used within the confines of towns and villages but rather where it's needed. Roads with poor drainage, others that suffer with cracking. It prolongs the lifespan of the surface underneath. The only negative is the loose gravel for upto 8 weeks, but it's hardly a hindrance. Most will have a 20mph limit until most have settled.
What's life without moaning...
A better life.... :whistle:
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I agree terrible idea hate those bloody stones, they just re-did the road in my village & didn't use them i was very surpised & thankful :grin:
It's not something that's used within the confines of towns and villages but rather where it's needed. Roads with poor drainage, others that suffer with cracking. It prolongs the lifespan of the surface underneath. The only negative is the loose gravel for upto 8 weeks, but it's hardly a hindrance. Most will have a 20mph limit until most have settled.
What's life without moaning...
A better life.... :whistle:
You don't work for the council by any chance do you?
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Jamo, ride a bike, tell me it's safe.
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Jamo, ride a bike, tell me it's safe.
You could always go a different way. I had to when I was out on my bicycle the other day. I did an extra 4 miles to avoid a freshly laid layer of wet tar and stones. It was a bit of extra effort for me as it involved a steep climb, but on a motorbike, it would have taken 5 minutes without breaking sweat.
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Signed, next to the huge potholes this is the worst think about the UK roads.
Mods I think that you should post this in every section to give it full exposure.
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Jamo, ride a bike, tell me it's safe.
When is riding a bike ever safe? Can only assume the reduced speed on bitumen / loose chippings roads would render them safer than average.
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I agree terrible idea hate those bloody stones, they just re-did the road in my village & didn't use them i was very surpised & thankful :grin:
It's not something that's used within the confines of towns and villages but rather where it's needed. Roads with poor drainage, others that suffer with cracking. It prolongs the lifespan of the surface underneath. The only negative is the loose gravel for upto 8 weeks, but it's hardly a hindrance. Most will have a 20mph limit until most have settled.
What's life without moaning...
A better life.... :whistle:
You don't work for the council by any chance do you?
Yes because i'll blissfully defend anything the council do out of iggnorance. Of course not, i work on cars, but i do live in a area where this use of road dressing has been used prevalently for a good number of years and have seen a vast improvement in the road conditions.
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http://www.highwaysmaintenance.com/JPEGfailSD.htm#THE PURPOSE OF SURFACE DRESSING
http://www.highwaysmaintenance.com/
HTH's
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Well drive very slowly over the loose stones its idoits on the otherside who drive fast and then usually stones hit you from afar!
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It's not something that's used within the confines of towns and villages but rather where it's needed. Roads with poor drainage, others that suffer with cracking. It prolongs the lifespan of the surface underneath. The only negative is the loose gravel for upto 8 weeks, but it's hardly a hindrance. Most will have a 20mph limit until most have settled.
Now you are just making stuff up as well as moaning about people moaning, all the country roads round where i work & live are done with stones, thats why i was so surpised they didn't do this one section the same as all the other roads !
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It's not something that's used within the confines of towns and villages but rather where it's needed. Roads with poor drainage, others that suffer with cracking. It prolongs the lifespan of the surface underneath. The only negative is the loose gravel for upto 8 weeks, but it's hardly a hindrance. Most will have a 20mph limit until most have settled.
Now you are just making stuff up as well as moaning about people moaning, all the country roads round where i work & live are done with stones, thats why i was so surpised they didn't do this one section the same as all the other roads !
So what exactly have i supposedly made up and i'm certainly not moaning at anyone or anything. They don't use it in villages, seems to be the normality up here. No need for the bad attitude. Just defending what is actually a good way of doing things and pointing out that stonechips to cars is not a sole valid reason for a petition against it.
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It's like covering rust up with filler on a car, it doesn't fix the problem just cover it up for later. Complete waste of time and money.
I can't imagine how much the council gets charged for this nonsense. :laugh:
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Jamo, ride a bike, tell me it's safe.
When is riding a bike ever safe? Can only assume the reduced speed on bitumen / loose chippings roads would render them safer than average.
You assume wrongly, massive loss of traction, because dangerous to break, accelerate and corner. And I'm not on about hooning it, within speed limits etc. You also get battered with stones off other cars etc
And to who said go another route, yeah I agree and no issue with that as such. But when your out on a ride in the country side and don't know it will be there it can't always be avoided. Round here as well lots of villages have only one route through, so avoiding one road could take 15+ miles easily to avoid a small stretch of road
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Jamo, ride a bike, tell me it's safe.
When is riding a bike ever safe? Can only assume the reduced speed on bitumen / loose chippings roads would render them safer than average.
You assume wrongly, massive loss of traction, because dangerous to break, accelerate and corner. And I'm not on about hooning it, within speed limits etc. You also get battered with stones off other cars etc
To begin with maybe, but after the settling period your not going to get hit with stones. Alot of these dressed roads would have not been sutable for bikes to begin with. Pot holes, no centre line, heavy agricultural traffic etc etc.
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Look, the stones on the road are sh!t! period.
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the roads in Britain are wrecked beyond repair. simple!
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^^ Posts = zero? :huh:
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Look, the stones on the road are sh!t! period.
That's your stance on them anyway. Good luck on the petition.
^^ Posts = zero? :huh:
Off topic don't add to your post count.
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Jamo, don't tell me what to do, you don't and never will own me.
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Look, the stones on the road are sh!t! period.
That's your stance on them anyway. Good luck on the petition.
^^ Posts = zero? :huh:
Off topic don't add to your post count.
Everyone loves stance! Ha, car jokes!
This is the off-topic section, you are wrong for being on topic. Ha, forum jokes!
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Jamo, don't tell me what to do, you don't and never will own me.
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what makes you so sure he doesn't own you?
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:rolleyes:
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Jamo, don't tell me what to do, you don't and never will own me.
Makes as much sense as that petition. But anyway, nice owning you. :rolleyes: