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Title: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 28 May 2014, 22:02
Hi guys

one of my bi-xenons seems to be nearing the end of its days, since last night it started emitting a purple-like light compared to the bright white of the other one, and it flickers a lot.

the car is year 10/2009.  My question is, which part will need changing (out of xenon control unit, gas discharge lamp, bulb, ...).  Also, anyone knows the cost of what needs to be changed?  And finally, can a non-specialized person fit what needs to change?

thanks
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: Rhyso on 28 May 2014, 22:05
Swap the bulbs over and see if the problem moves

If it does chances are its just the bulb that needs replacing  :smiley:
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 28 May 2014, 22:12
Swap the bulbs over and see if the problem moves

If it does chances are its just the bulb that needs replacing  :smiley:

thanks mate, will probably go out and try it now  :grin:

any other help much welcome
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 28 May 2014, 22:52
Swap the bulbs over and see if the problem moves

If it does chances are its just the bulb that needs replacing  :smiley:

thanks mate, will probably go out and try it now  :grin:

any other help much welcome

already gone out, removed bulb, followed Rhyso's advice, seems it's only the bulb.  Easy to remove and fit back.

Final question guys: the fitted one is 35W 4300K ... anyone knows for sure whether i could fit a stronger bulb without changing anything else or causing further problems  - i came across 6000k ones... just wondering  :wink:
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: Rhyso on 28 May 2014, 22:56
Stick with the OEM output as that actually gives you the most light  :wink:

Its a common misconception that the higher the number the greater the light output but in fact the opposite is true

Also you may want to replace both bulbs as you may find a slight difference between the new and old bulb.....
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 28 May 2014, 23:35
Stick with the OEM output as that actually gives you the most light  :wink:

Its a common misconception that the higher the number the greater the light output but in fact the opposite is true

Also you may want to replace both bulbs as you may find a slight difference between the new and old bulb.....

thanks for the info mate, much appreciated.

i'll buy a pair of bulbs anyway and fit one first and see if there's any difference, the other bulb has been changed last summer so I wouldn't expect much of a diff.

I'm sticking with the philips brand that is already fitted on the car, hopefully it won't die on me before i manage to get my hands on a replacement
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: mike. on 29 May 2014, 09:08
I have THESE (http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/xenarc-cool-blue-intense-d1s-single) fitted after the cheap ones I orignally bought from Ebay turned out to be fakes and gave up after six months.  :rolleyes:

They give off a much crisper white light than the OEM ones and make the original Xenons look a bit yellow.
I think they are now standard fit to new Mercs.

It takes a fair few hours to get them burned in but they are not cheap, however most of the Phillips ones on Ebay are fakes.

The ones I bought were in original VW OEM boxes but were fakes so I just went for the Osram CBI  :cool:
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 29 May 2014, 10:00
I have THESE (http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/xenarc-cool-blue-intense-d1s-single) fitted after the cheap ones I orignally bought from Ebay turned out to be fakes and gave up after six months.  :rolleyes:

They give off a much crisper white light than the OEM ones and make the original Xenons look a bit yellow.
I think they are now standard fit to new Mercs.

It takes a fair few hours to get them burned in but they are not cheap, however most of the Phillips ones on Ebay are fakes.

The ones I bought were in original VW OEM boxes but were fakes so I just went for the Osram CBI  :cool:

what a mess!  called a shop selling the Philips XenStart 9285 141 294 D1S 35W i need for my car, they gave me a price of 120 pounds per pair.  Called the dealer, gave me a price of 400 pounds for the pair.  When I asked the dealer why such a difference, they said it's because what they are selling are gas discharge ones !!!

Am i looking at two different things here (i.e. Do Philips XenStart 9285 141 294 D1S 35W come as gas discharge ones and as non-gas discharge ones OR is the dealer playing me?)

 
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: mike. on 29 May 2014, 10:17
The dealers price for these bulbs is extortionate and he is talking through his a???  :rolleyes:

There is only one type of the Philips XenStart D1S, just watch where you buy them and make sure they are an authorised distributor.
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 29 May 2014, 10:50
The dealers price for these bulbs is extortionate and he is talking through his a???  :rolleyes:

There is only one type of the Philips XenStart D1S, just watch where you buy them and make sure they are an authorised distributor.

thanks mike much appreciated.

by the way, any known authorized distributors in the UK?
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: mike. on 29 May 2014, 11:30
Try AUTOBULBS DIRECT (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/replacement-d1s-xenon-hid-bulbs/)

I have just noticed they are doing the Osram CBI for £115 for the pair which is very good value.

These really are brighter than the OEM ones and well worth it, though it is up to yourself.

Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 29 May 2014, 12:13
Try AUTOBULBS DIRECT (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/replacement-d1s-xenon-hid-bulbs/)

I have just noticed they are doing the Osram CBI for £115 for the pair which is very good value.

These really are brighter than the OEM ones and well worth it, though it is up to yourself.

thanks mate.  Are the ones you suggest gas discharge ones?  And most importantly, will they function the same as OEMs? (regarding cornering, levelling, etc

btw can someone give me a quote for part no N10566103 (this is the factory High Intensity Gas Discharge (HID) lamp)?  The dealer seems to be charging A LOT - over 400 pounds a pair.
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: mike. on 29 May 2014, 12:47
No problem.

They are exactly the same bulb as the OEM just about 20% brighter so will not effect operation of the headlight.

I have been running them for a couple of years now with no issues.

All these bulbs are gas discharge as they generate light by sending an electrical discharge through an ionized gas.
In this case the gas is Xenon which produces a crisp white light.
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 29 May 2014, 12:50
No problem.

They are exactly the same bulb as the OEM just about 20% brighter so will not effect operation of the headlight.

I have been running them for a couple of years now with no issues.

might just give them a go then.  Considering that the quote for these is 115 pounds a pair, would you say the philips ones sold on ebay for about 50 pounds a pair are not genuine??
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: mike. on 29 May 2014, 12:54
Probably fake, you can read THIS (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?319325-Fake-Philips-HID-bulbs-very-common-now-in-fact-on-the-internet-most-are-Counterfeits) article which mentions them.

I have already got stung once and in the worst case they can take out the Ballast (£150 each) or as mine did only last six months.
Title: Re: one of my bi-xenons is dying - URGENT ! HELP !
Post by: candywhite12 on 29 May 2014, 13:07
Probably fake, you can read THIS (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?319325-Fake-Philips-HID-bulbs-very-common-now-in-fact-on-the-internet-most-are-Counterfeits) article which mentions them.

I have already got stung once and in the worst case they can take out the Ballast (£150 each) or as mine did only last six months.

man I'm really at a loss here.  I've ordered a pair selling for 55 quid on ebay (down from 75), with 24 month warantee, says new and genuine.  Does that sound like fake? You got me thinking with what you said but the warantee thing made me think this is not fake.